From mlb.com... "I think he's a great manager," said Farnsworth, who completed his first year under Torre. "I've got no complaints on my side. He did what he thought was going to win games. As far as I know, it was a successful season."
Here's the link... http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/a...=.jsp&c_id=mlb
Apparently Kyle hasn't seen his employer's mission statement.
Ah.. my favorite part of the offseason... overanalyzing everybody's quotes
Maybe Kyle got confused and thought he was still pitching for the Tigers.
and tomorrow is Tuesday. Then Wednesday.
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Kyle knows its a crapshoot. I'm sorry most of you don't. While we severely underachieved, Farnsworth atleast did his job.
If you don't like overanalysis, I think you are in the wrong placeOriginally Posted by ryanm1058123
who cares
winning in october is luck and hot streaks, the most talented teams don't always win and that's the point of playing in october. If KC was randomly inserted into the playoffs they have a fair shot at winning it too. It's all about whose hot and whose not. Whether Jeter or Steinbrenner or anybody wants to admit it, it IS an accomplishment to win your division and get to the playoffs
It was a disappointment that the Yankees were eliminated by the Tigers, but in a lot of ways the season was a success considering how they won yet another division title and were in the post-season again. A lot of teams don't even get that far.
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Indeed ... has anyone stopped to think that of all the teams ... all five of 'em ... that won the World Series since the Yankees last won in '00, not one ... that is NOT EVEN ONE ... so much as reached the postseason this year?
Diamondbacks '01
Angels '02
Marlins '03
Red Sox '04
White Sox '05
Did they have "successful seasons" this year?
Nope, they did not have success.
They also didn't have gross payroll north of $200m.
I think we should try to cut the payroll down by 75 million or so over the next few years... So many of us (myself included) have come to believe that is almost our "right" to win because we spend so much.
When a relief pitcher calls something "successful" that his owner calls a "sad failure", someone missed a memo somewhere
Well, if what it takes to get them to win another World Series is to have them miss the postseason altogether for a few years, I guess I'd be willing to suffer through that. But how long do you think a manager would last here who didn't even make the postseason?
Ya know - the payroll thing really bothers me - the fact is - all the teams still have the same # of players - and only 9 can be on the field. The Y's pay a premium for/to their players - many are getting WAY over what they are worth - but that doesnt make them better players really. With all the players who might not return (Mussina, Sheffield, etc.) has anyone come up with 2007's potential payroll (assuming they don't piss more away on other old overpriced player) ????
My notes indicate Mussina at $19 mil and Shef at $13 mil alone. (so $32 mil right off the bat)
I'm thinking they should try to get it down to $150, say.
MAYBE INSTEAD OF FIRING TORRE THEY SHOULD GIVE ALL THE PLAYERS A
20% PAY CUT. - like the airlines do when they don't perform.
when you have a 200 million dollar payroll, winning the dviison is no accomplishment. the playoffs is about clutch hitting and pitching.
the yankees have a lineup fullof number 4 hiters. is it any shock they go 20 some odd innings where they dont advance a runner? Situatinal baseball is not what these guys do and when you are in the post season you are facing the better pitchers so the walk and wait for the three run homer approach goes out the boards. these teams are in the playoffs b/c they dont walk guys and give up lots of 3 run homers. you have to do the little things.
Anytime you win the East, it constitutes a successful season. Since October is all about who gets hot at the right time, it's just an added bonus.
That being said, there is no excuse for playing like a bunch of sissies just because you lost a 4-3 game.
Kyle, that was an Atlanta Brave successful season...
Palmer killed Billy Mays
right now, we are the atlanta braves.
I love burly Kyle Farnsworth, this guy is awesome
Hehehe. Im glad he is happy, that makes me feel better
Caption it
@ "sucessful season"
“Sometimes you have to let go to see if there was anything worth holding on to.”
I would agree if the Yankees didn't outspend their nearest competitor by $80 million. But given their bloated payroll, it would be an absolute disgrace to not at least make the playoffs. This was by no means a successful season.
If your season ends in a loss in the playoffs, it's not successful.
As for Farnsworth's season (I thought that's what this was going to be about), I think he was pretty good. His ERA was too high, but he didn't blow many games overall and I thought his 2nd half was good. I expect him to be better next year.
“I mean, people knew that Brown was out there, and that Randy was ornery all the time. And Pavano is whoever he is. But if you’re their manager, you can’t go out and write about them like that.”
I thought the same way. He was pretty bad in the first half, and he really improved in the second half. I'm hoping for a much better second year though; that seems to be the book on Farnsworth. One average year, then a great year, and the cyle keeps going on and on.
Only a Yankees fan would call this season unsuccessful, god help us if we ever NOT make the post season. Steve Phillips was right, unfortunately, too arrogant, and too ignorant of how baseball works.
I really wish he called himself pr0f3ss0r_f4rnsw0rth in interviews or print, its just such a great title
Having lived through the CBS years of the 60's and early 70's and the circus of the 80's and early 90's, the last 11 seasons have all been successful, some much more than others. This is a good time for all of us to take a deep breath and look forward to next year.
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty or safety."
- Benjamin Franklin (1759)
I agree with him, this was a successful season, it just wasn't a successful playoff season. Yankees need to go out and fix their starting pitching. If that means Zito and Matsuzaka, so be it. Wright, Johnson, Lidle, etc. are not going to cut it. Maybe one of them as a 5th starter.
Not totally fair. The Yankees have the payroll advantage. They have spent ~$1 BILLION in the last 6 years on payroll. Show me a team that is anywhere close to that advantage. They then went out and won 97 games, good for the best record in Major League Baseball.
They then went out, and got absolutely CRUSHED in 4 games, the last two of which were laughers. Incrediby bad at the plate, no pitching, and seemingly no inspiration. I can take losing. It is HOW they lost.
This lineup could not even scratch out a run at one point.
If they really battled, scratched and clawed, and lost, it would be a successful season. To show up against Detroit, and appear that it was a foregone conclusion upset many fans....and rightly so. No heart, no intensity.
I have been happy with seasons that the Yanks did not win it all. I have been happy with seasons where they did not qualify for post season. It is all relative. It bugs me that people who are upset about this particular team are broad brushed as spoiled. (Or Arrogant, or ignorant, or whatever adjective you like)
ANY fan of ANY team who came out like that would be very disappointed.
The day the rest of the teams spend the checks they are getting from the Yanks for Revenue sharing and luxury tax is the day I will consider caring about how much money we spend. Even then, I doubt I will care. Why? Because what we are doing is both ethical and fair in regards to the way this league is run at this time. Why should we, as fans, feel bad that our team is using the money it makes to put out the best possible product that it can?
There is a hero within us all
Enoch
What a jerk...
Calmer than you are.
I'm a fan of the Yankees, not a fan of how much money they spend. I could care less if they spent 20 million total. If George wasn't so stupid he would realize that you can't buy your way to the world series. Baseball doesn't work like that. In the end, I don't care how much money this team is paid, it's not my decision, it's Georges. They made it to the playoffs in the face of adversity and I am proud to say that I consider this a very successful season.
Farnsworth is a tool. And so is Lidle for that matter.
Jesus Montero since June 1 (286 at-bats):
.325/.386/.605/.991
July 1 (182 at-bats):
.348/.417/.658/1.075
Technically Kyle is right. It was a sucessful season. It was however an unsuccessful post season.
We don't know who has had a successful season yet. All we know is 26 teams failed to this point.
Is this the first farnsworth thread where Mattpat11 isn't crapping all over Farnsworth?
The set up man was no better or worse than any other pitcher on this team or any other team in baseball.
That is my official stance on the set up man.
right now, we are the atlanta braves.
Totally correct-Nothing more than a mere participant
if you are going to troll, at least don't have in your profile that you are a red sox fan
[quote=RJ44]...As far as I know, it was a successful season." [quote]
That shows you he is a real head case.
Let's face it, Farnsy is right. Ok, so there is no WS this year. Noted. But this team was special. Very special. It was, in the end, a great group of guys. They overcame adversity and proved to MLB that they are still the team to beat. Case in point: If it were a 7-game series, the Yankees outlast Detroit in Game 7. We know this. The tigers know it. The yankees know it. And Bud knows it. You can take away their games, but you can never take away this team's ability.
Just try and picture Paul O'Neil giving this quote.
Now you know what is wrong with the team.
kyle farnsworth took a few atbats during the 2006 alds?
And the point whooshes right past you....
mo said something to the effect of "what are you going to do? it happens" when the yankees were eliminated. you want to get rid of him too
DId he say "This was a successful season?"
And to tell you the truth, hearing that quote from Mo speaks volumes to me where this team is at vs. where it used to be.
Complacent.
farnsworth is a choke artist who doesn't deserve to wear the uniform. he is typical of the losing player the yankees have brought in these last 5 years. guy throws 100 mph and teams cant wait to get rid of him.
We do?
nice to see that you are now throwing mo under the bus.
Well...that's not really true. Florida had a very successful season. The Tigers- no matter what happens- have had a successful season. You can probably pinpoint several others that did so as well.
A successful season essentially is exceeding or reaching reasonable expectations.
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