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    Re: September 6, 2006 - Yankees @ Royals from Kauffman Stadium, Kansas City, MO

    That is that folks. See you Friday.
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    Re: September 6, 2006 - Yankees @ Royals from Kauffman Stadium, Kansas City, MO

    Quote Originally Posted by fredgmuggs
    The thing that Torre hasn't been credited with this season is that he has managed to keep an old and an injury risk starting pitching staff relatively healthy all season. He has done that by over working the bullpen at times.... and it's easier to point the finger of blame over bullpen misuse, than praising him for keeping the starters healthy.
    100% agree. He's been careful with the whole starting staff....

    Heck, he even has babied Pavano this season, keeping him under 1 inning pitched.

    Seriously, though, I agree. The fact he now has the better part of a month to coast into October and ensure his pen arms don't get taxed is great.

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    Re: September 6, 2006 - Yankees @ Royals from Kauffman Stadium, Kansas City, MO

    Quote Originally Posted by conkermaniac
    How do you know that? I thought after Proctor pitched in the rubber game of the Minnesota series, there was no way he would pitch more than 1 game in this series. He ended up pitching 2 games.
    I was suprised when he came in that day.
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    Re: September 6, 2006 - Yankees @ Royals from Kauffman Stadium, Kansas City, MO

    Quote Originally Posted by gold23
    That's true. Wasn't "blame", but an example of a taxed pen being a bad thing to go into October with. That, or Wetteland getting owned by Edgar.
    I attribute '95 to Buck not trusting Wetteland. Even without Edgar coming up, he went with freaking Jack McDowell to save Game 5 - when McDowell's arm was being held on with cotter pins and chewing gum.

    I'll never forget that shot ABC had of Wetteland in the bullpen with his hands on his waist, waiting to come in. And Showalter goes with McDowell. Incredible. If you're gonna get beat, get beat with your closer in.

    But that was four rings ago...still cheeses me off, though...
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    Re: September 6, 2006 - Yankees @ Royals from Kauffman Stadium, Kansas City, MO

    Series win for the Yankees!

    A great night that highlights what has been an excellent year for Posada.

    RJ pitches well without being overworked.

    Thank you to everyone who posted!

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    Re: September 6, 2006 - Yankees @ Royals from Kauffman Stadium, Kansas City, MO

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteRFNY
    I attribute '95 to Buck not trusting Wetteland. Even without Edgar coming up, he went with freaking Jack McDowell to save Game 5 - when McDowell's arm was being held on with cotter pins and chewing gum.

    I'll never forget that shot ABC had of Wetteland in the bullpen with his hands on his waist, waiting to come in. And Showalter goes with McDowell. Incredible. If you're gonna get beat, get beat with your closer in.

    But that was four rings ago...still cheeses me off, though...
    He should have left Mo in the game. A blind man could see he was nearly unhittable that night.
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    Re: September 6, 2006 - Yankees @ Royals from Kauffman Stadium, Kansas City, MO

    Quote Originally Posted by fredgmuggs
    He should have left Mo in the game. A blind man could see he was nearly unhittable that night.
    Yeah, that too! Showalter's bullpen management makes Torre look like a genius (which is why I don't complain about it as much as many of my contemporaries do). 11 years later and that game still makes me eat grumblecakes!

    Eleven years? Yikes.

    Righteous! Another series in the can. Now I must fight the urge to call out sick on Friday and go down to Baltimore...!
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    Re: September 6, 2006 - Yankees @ Royals from Kauffman Stadium, Kansas City, MO

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    Originally Posted by fredgmuggs
    The thing that Torre hasn't been credited with this season is that he has managed to keep an old and an injury risk starting pitching staff relatively healthy all season. He has done that by over working the bullpen at times.... and it's easier to point the finger of blame over bullpen misuse, than praising him for keeping the starters healthy.

    Absolutely brilliant post
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    Re: September 6, 2006 - Yankees @ Royals from Kauffman Stadium, Kansas City, MO

    Quote Originally Posted by gold23
    Starters throw 100 pitches and then have a full bullpen session (30-40 pitches) two days later. He hasn't been used significantly, and his pitch counts haven't been that high. Additionally, and most importantly, he's not tired right now. He was a while back. Not anymore.
    You are basing this off radar gun readings. Do you remember when we came out of the All-Star Break and Proctor was hitting 97? He's hanging around 94 right now, which isn't nearly as significant as his dropoff earlier in the season (when he was at around 91), but it shows at least that he could benefit from some more rest. He can still be effective throwing 94, 95, but why wouldn't we want a Proctor who can come out of the bullpen throwing 97, 98 in the playoffs? The bite on his slider has also decreased, and he's hanging more breaking balls.

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    Re: September 6, 2006 - Yankees @ Royals from Kauffman Stadium, Kansas City, MO

    Quote Originally Posted by Wade_Taylor
    oh great, now that the lead is 7 he is going to pitch farnsworth
    what are the mega millions #'s gonna be Friday night

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    Re: September 6, 2006 - Yankees @ Royals from Kauffman Stadium, Kansas City, MO

    Quote Originally Posted by fredgmuggs
    The thing that Torre hasn't been credited with this season is that he has managed to keep an old and an injury risk starting pitching staff relatively healthy all season. He has done that by over working the bullpen at times.... and it's easier to point the finger of blame over bullpen misuse, than praising him for keeping the starters healthy.

    Great post Muggs! Great game last night!

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