How about some love for Cashman!!!

[nyks4324]

Ok with all of the talks about cashman possibly giving up our youngsters...i.e hughes, cano, wang, tabata...
I think cashamn did a great job in getting things we needed without giving up toooo much

matt smith- i hate to get rid of him, he looked pretty solid but I didnt see anything electric with his stuff
jesus sanchez- years away from contributing
c.j. henry- was hitting something like .239 in class a ball and didnt seem to be that great of a draft choice anyway
Carlos Monasterios - dont know too much about him


lets not also forget the fact that every team was trying to get hughes and tabata for every player that we wanted, cashman sat and waited and took care of business.
We now have another gerat bat in the lineup who will be patient and get on base. also a solid 5th or even 4th starter that can help us in the back end of our rotation.

If you are worried about losing some young players we will get some more picks if gary leaves us this off season.


Kudos Cahsman keep it up.

[35Knucklecurve]

I think the rest of the GM's are after the deals Cash made. Excellent job, Brian!

[joesalto]

Ok with all of the talks about cashman possibly giving up our youngsters...i.e hughes, cano, wang, tabata...
I think cashamn did a great job in getting things we needed without giving up toooo much

matt smith- i hate to get rid of him, he looked pretty solid but I didnt see anything electric with his stuff
jesus sanchez- years away from contributing
c.j. henry- was hitting something like .239 in class a ball and didnt seem to be that great of a draft choice anyway
Carlos Monasterios - dont know too much about him


lets not also forget the fact that every team was trying to get hughes and tabata for every player that we wanted, cashman sat and waited and took care of business.
We now have another gerat bat in the lineup who will be patient and get on base. also a solid 5th or even 4th starter that can help us in the back end of our rotation.

If you are worried about losing some young players we will get some more picks if gary leaves us this off season.


Kudos Cahsman keep it up.

How about a standing ovation for jumping on Russo.

Brian is a top GM, Scherholtz is the best, Brian is in the top 4.

[jcan411]

I hate to be negative about stuff like this, I really do, but while these moves were great - how exactly is cashman such a great GM?

Look at him and the team as a whole. RJ has been average; pavano a bust; wright a bust; farnsworth has been average....The young kids ahve been great and I am not fully aware if they are all cashman draftees....

Now we have four outfielders making over 10 mill a year:
damon 12
matsui 13
shef 13
abreau 15

Our infield makes almost 20 mil each:
Arod 14
jeter 21
Giambi 19
posada 13.5

These are all from hardball dollars. Im not even going to look at the pitchers but it is equally amazing with 6 guys making over 7 mil.

Now i could care less how much the yankees shell out to players to keep us good. I think if we buy them, and we can, then screw you guys that don't...BUT...this is not some genius GM that makes amazing moves with a restrained budget (twins, A's, detroit, etc...). Cashman can afford to buy all the players he wants. I mean we have guys on the DL making almost 50 mill in salary and we can still afford to take on almost 20 mil in salary witht eh abreau deal.

I hate to say it but it almost makes me not like the team as much...I personnally perfer the guiel homers and bernies of the world stepping up, and guys like cairo helping in games. This just does not seem like a team anymore, but a revolving door of aging superstars that get unloaded from cash-strapped teams. Even the sux couldnt afford to have an outfield making that much. I for one would have liked the wilson trade, and then leave it there. Give me scrappy team that works together over a collection of overpayed gusy no matter how little we give up to get them.....My 2 cents

[Sam18]

Good thing George Steinbrenner never had anything to do with the team you mentioned jcan.

[Slioman]

The Yankees can probably absorb a 240mil payroll IMO. I do admit that the Yankees make a ridiculous sum of money but the thing is the team really has earned it over the years. They went from being a sub-.500 ball club to being the biggest ever and that trend has continued.

[joesalto]

I hate to be negative about stuff like this, I really do, but while these moves were great - how exactly is cashman such a great GM?

Look at him and the team as a whole. RJ has been average; pavano a bust; wright a bust; farnsworth has been average....The young kids ahve been great and I am not fully aware if they are all cashman draftees....

Now we have four outfielders making over 10 mill a year:
damon 12
matsui 13
shef 13
abreau 15

Our infield makes almost 20 mil each:
Arod 14
jeter 21
Giambi 19
posada 13.5

These are all from hardball dollars. Im not even going to look at the pitchers but it is equally amazing with 6 guys making over 7 mil.

Now i could care less how much the yankees shell out to players to keep us good. I think if we buy them and we can then screw you guys that don't...BUT...this is not some genius GM that makes amazing moves with a restrained budget (twins, A's, detroit, etc...). Cashman can afford to buy all the players he wants. I mean we have guys on the DL making almost 50 mill in salary and we can still afford to take on almost 20 mil in salary.

I hate to say it but it almost makes me not like the team as much...I personnal perfer the guiel homers and bernies of the world stepping up, and guys like cairo helping in games. This just does not seem like a team anymore, but a revolving door of aging superstars that get unloaded from cash-strapped teams. Even the sux couldnt afford to have an outfield making that much. I for one would have liked the wilson trade, and then leave it there. Give me scrappy team that works together over a collection of overpayed gusy no matter how little we give up to get them.....My 2 cents

Well, one of the reasons I do not consider Cashman the best GM is the fact that if the he screws up on a 5 million a year player, it just gets swept under the carpet. The Yanks can absorb that contract and go get someone else that is just as costly.

Most GM's might get handcuffed with a mistake like that.

That said, still one of the top GM's out there.

[jcan411]

Good thing George Steinbrenner never had anything to do with the team you mentioned jcan.

weather it george dictating or not it still should not mean such praise for cashman...if your boss spends more than others and your are the manager and can make more buys, it doesn't mean you have more talent...is cashman above averge? yes...but he misses a lot too (as do many)..

And I love how all mistakes are blamed on george and the tampa crew, and all the homers are given to cashman...

[jcan411]

Well, one of the reasons I do not consider Cashman the best GM is the fact that if the he screws up on a 5 million a year player, it just gets swept under the carpet. The Yanks can absorb that contract and go get someone else that is just as costly.

Most GM's might get handcuffed with a mistake like that.

That said, still one of the top GM's out there.

My only point, cashman loses on pavano and wright; no big deal...another team and he does not get that luxury

[JeterRodriguezSheff]

I hate to be negative about stuff like this, I really do, but while these moves were great - how exactly is cashman such a great GM?

Look at him and the team as a whole. RJ has been average; pavano a bust; wright a bust; farnsworth has been average....The young kids ahve been great and I am not fully aware if they are all cashman draftees....

Now we have four outfielders making over 10 mill a year:
damon 12
matsui 13
shef 13
abreau 15

Our infield makes almost 20 mil each:
Arod 14
jeter 21
Giambi 19
posada 13.5

These are all from hardball dollars. Im not even going to look at the pitchers but it is equally amazing with 6 guys making over 7 mil.

Now i could care less how much the yankees shell out to players to keep us good. I think if we buy them, and we can, then screw you guys that don't...BUT...this is not some genius GM that makes amazing moves with a restrained budget (twins, A's, detroit, etc...). Cashman can afford to buy all the players he wants. I mean we have guys on the DL making almost 50 mill in salary and we can still afford to take on almost 20 mil in salary witht eh abreau deal.

I hate to say it but it almost makes me not like the team as much...I personnally perfer the guiel homers and bernies of the world stepping up, and guys like cairo helping in games. This just does not seem like a team anymore, but a revolving door of aging superstars that get unloaded from cash-strapped teams. Even the sux couldnt afford to have an outfield making that much. I for one would have liked the wilson trade, and then leave it there. Give me scrappy team that works together over a collection of overpayed gusy no matter how little we give up to get them.....My 2 cents

Cashman just got full control to do what he wants this year. The other years team's were mostly created by Steinbrenner and the Tampa faction.

[ppa79]

I consider Cashman the best GM out there. I will only evaluate Cashman on the deals made after Cashman signed his new contract since now he has absolute power. Before this contract, I had no clue who was running the organization, too much chaos.

Damon signing = good signing
Matsui resigning = great signing
Myers signing = ok signing
Farnsworth signing = ok signing (remember we got 2 1st rd draft picks for letting Gordon go)
Villione trade = great trade
2006 draft = good draft (too early to tell)
Montero signing = great signing
Abreu/Lidle trade = great trade
Wilson trade = great trade
Organizational philosophy to let bring up guys like Beam, Phillips, Melky, Smith and let him play = great

[JeterRodriguezSheff]

weather it george dictating or not it still should not mean such praise for cashman...if your boss spends more than others and your are the manager and can make more buys, it doesn't mean you have more talent...is cashman above averge? yes...but he misses a lot too (as do many)..

And I love how all mistakes are blamed on george and the tampa crew, and all the homers are given to cashman...

All the mistakes and positives before this year up until 2001 are all on Tampa and Steinbrenner. That includes the good things too. Cashman just got full control this year. So far this season is all we have to go by.

[jcan411]

Cashman just got full control to do what he wants this year. The other years team's were mostly created by Steinbrenner and the Tampa faction.

So i guess cashman had NOTHING to do with yankee decisions before 2006....I wish i had a job with absolutely nothing to do...must have been nice getting that money in the bank...This is a joke of course...life is not black and white folks...

[ppa79]

So i guess cashman had NOTHING to do with yankee decisions before 2006....I wish i had a job with absolutely nothing to do...must have been nice getting that money in the bank...This is a joke of course...life is not black and white folks...

We have no clue what was going on back then. I'll give Cashman benefit of the doubt. Judge him on what he has done after this latest contract because he has absolute power now.

[JeterRodriguezSheff]

So i guess cashman had NOTHING to do with yankee decisions before 2006....I wish i had a job with absolutely nothing to do...must have been nice getting that money in the bank...This is a joke of course...life is not black and white folks...

Im sure he made some decisions but really he was just a puppet in those years and its impossible to know what he did and did not do. Im not giving him any credit for the good things that came from those years either. Before you call Cashman's job easy I think you should first try working for Steinbrenner with a whole faction fighting you for power.

[jcan411]

We have no clue what was going on back then. I'll give Cashman benefit of the doubt. Judge him on what he has done after this latest contract because he has absolute power now.

My point is that ther is no way of knowing and he WAS THE GENERAL MANAGER of the yankees...it was SPECULATED on his level of control, but you certainly cannot just throw out all those decisions and say "well, i bet he had nothing to do with thoselast three years". Thats just a little nieve in my opinion

[Sam18]

Lol sox fans.

[Nature's Minister]

I'm fairly certain that Cashman's job before this year was to swing deals for players George wanted.

[jcan411]

Im sure he made some decisions but really he was just a puppet in those years and its impossible to know what he did and did not do. Im not giving him any credit for the good things that came from those years either. Before you call Cashman's job easy I think you should first try working for Steinbrenner with a whole faction fighting you for power.

I'm not saying its an easy job. I am only saying he has an easier job as a general manager since he has so many resources to deal with...Listen only us and the sux had any chance at abreau and thats why we were able to get him. He makes way to much and the phillies wanted to pay nothing...that makes it easier for him to add offense, rather than a GM with no way of taking on that number

[ppa79]

My point is that ther is no way of knowing and he WAS THE GENERAL MANAGER of the yankees...it was SPECULATED on his level of control, but you certainly cannot just throw out all those decisions and say "well, i bet he had nothing to do with thoselast three years". Thats just a little nieve in my opinion

You have no clue what was going on with the Yankees. There are many accounts of when Steinbrenner would go do things on his own and not tell his GM throughout of the years. Remember Kenny Rogers, what about Raul Mondesi, Irabu to name a couple. I think you are little nieve in my opinion if you don't know of these things.

[JeterRodriguezSheff]

My point is that ther is no way of knowing and he WAS THE GENERAL MANAGER of the yankees...it was SPECULATED on his level of control, but you certainly cannot just throw out all those decisions and say "well, i bet he had nothing to do with thoselast three years". Thats just a little nieve in my opinion

So if we have no way of knowing what he did like you said in those years, how can we judge him during those years? Guess?

[CallOfTheCrow]

So i guess cashman had NOTHING to do with yankee decisions before 2006....I wish i had a job with absolutely nothing to do...must have been nice getting that money in the bank...This is a joke of course...life is not black and white folks...

I'm sure he had a say as to what goes on but in the end, Steinbrenner signs the checks so he made the final decisions then.

[jcan411]

Lol sox fans.

Hey, I am not one and I think theo is just as overhyped. I just miss the brosius, o'neil days when we had a TEAM...not a collection of aging superstars

[JeterRodriguezSheff]

I'm not saying its an easy job. I am only saying he has an easier job as a general manager since he has so many resources to deal with...Listen only us and the sux had any chance at abreau and thats why we were able to get him. He makes way to much and the phillies wanted to pay nothing...that makes it easier for him to add offense, rather than a GM with no way of taking on that number

Ok but if he didnt have the control over decisions that he gained this season and Steinbrenner was still making the decisions Hughes and Tabata would be in Philly right now as a part of the salary dump. That and trading Chacon for a player with a career ops+ of 120 is brilliance. For comparison Matsui's career ops+ is 125.

[jcan411]

You have no clue what was going on with the Yankees. There are many accounts of when Steinbrenner would go do things on his own and not tell his GM throughout of the years. Remember Kenny Rogers, what about Raul Mondesi, Irabu to name a couple. I think you are little nieve in my opinion if you don't know of these things.

Thats is exaclty my point...there is no way of knowing..he could have made little in ways of final decisions..or he could have been paramount...my point is only he was GM and must at least have some blame..i mean what was he doint if he was doing nothing? sitting around doing nothing all day?

[JeterRodriguezSheff]

Hey, I am not one and I think theo is just as overhyped. I just miss the brosius, o'neil days when we had a TEAM...not a collection of aging superstars

Most of the older players are coming off the books soon...so age really shouldnt be a worry.

[ppa79]

Thats is exaclty my point...there is no way of knowing..he could have made little in ways of final decisions..or he could have been paramount...my point is only he was GM and must at least have some blame..i mean what was he doint if he was doing nothing? sitting around doing nothing all day?

I just put that era behind me. Cashman is in charge now.

[SheffRocks11]

Thanks Cash!

[DaPip1998]

Hey, I am not one and I think theo is just as overhyped. I just miss the brosius, o'neil days when we had a TEAM...not a collection of aging superstars

Now starring in Grumpy Old Men---the 2006 Yankees!

[JeterRodriguezSheff]

Thats is exaclty my point...there is no way of knowing..he could have made little in ways of final decisions..or he could have been paramount...my point is only he was GM and must at least have some blame..i mean what was he doint if he was doing nothing? sitting around doing nothing all day?

He was getting the players Steinbrenner told him to. I am sure he made some decisions he wanted to, but like you said there is no way to know. So how can we judge him? What we do know is that he has done a great jon since getting total control to do what he wants.

[Slioman]

I weigh in on Cashman after the trade deadline of '07 while he has total control but I admit he made some great deals.

[rpbri2886]

Exactly...I expected us to do nothing when the "Sanders for Hughes" type rumors started rolling in early last month.

However, Cash did a great job. The Yankees (and Cashman) are certainly the winners of the Trading Deadline sweepstakes

[jcan411]

Ok but if he didnt have the control over decisions that he gained this season and Steinbrenner was still making the decisions Hughes and Tabata would be in Philly right now as a part of the salary dump. That and trading Chacon for a player with a career ops+ of 120 is brilliance. For comparison Matsui's career ops+ is 125.

We are arguing about an organization as a whole as if they were two sperate entities. They are the yankees and they make decisions (right or wrong) as a whole no matter what different factions think within the organizations and what they privately think about said decisions. The rest is all speculation. you are only saying your speculation is better than mine...its opinion...only that i am saying i hold cashman responsible since he was technically part f the organization and its GM

[ppa79]

All hail Cashman

[Arod for President]

Brian Cashman has come through big time for the yankee organization once again. I havnt heard a peep from The Boss... Make ya wonder whats wrong with Georgie.

[jcan411]

Most of the older players are coming off the books soon...so age really shouldnt be a worry.

age is not the worry, but abreau types at 26 are more valuable than a 32 year old declining abreau, especially since he hsa gotten his payday contract

[JeterRodriguezSheff]

We are arguing about an organization as a whole as if they were two sperate entities. They are the yankees and they make decisions (right or wrong) as a whole no matter what different factions think within the organizations and what they privately think about said decisions. The rest is all speculation. you are only saying your speculation is better than mine...its opinion...only that i am saying i hold cashman responsible since he was technically part f the organization and its GM

We only know one thing for sure. This offseason Cashman gained total control. Since this offseason the Yankees have made mostly great decisions. Before this offseason they made a lot of horrible decisions. I dont know anything for sure, but I am willing to put 2 and 2 together and get 4.

[ppa79]

We are arguing about an organization as a whole as if they were two sperate entities. They are the yankees and they make decisions (right or wrong) as a whole no matter what different factions think within the organizations and what they privately think about said decisions. The rest is all speculation. you are only saying your speculation is better than mine...its opinion...only that i am saying i hold cashman responsible since he was technically part f the organization and its GM

Where were you for the last 10 years? Its common knowledge that there were two factions in the NY Yankee empire, NY and Tampa. Tampa would try to impede and undermine Cashman from doing his job. If you want us to take you seriously, you really need to do your homework.

[Hitman23]

here's to Cash....

[Bern baby Bern!]

Great job cash... mostly excited about Lidle - exactly the player we need here especially the way he has pitched of late. The only thing I am a little disappointed in is not going after a bullpen pitcher. I guess we are relying on Dotel coming back soon and Proctor and Farnsworth continuing to pitch the way they have.

[jcan411]

Where were you for the last 10 years? Its common knowledge that there were two factions in the NY Yankee empire, NY and Tampa. Tampa would try to impede and undermine Cashman from doing his job. If you want us to take you seriously, you really need to do your homework.

Listen I have been around for the last 10 years.. the extent to which this occured is speculation based on some fact - maybe it was all the transations - maybe it was one - maybe it was most - we have no idea how deep it went. Did it happen? yes. With ever transation? no. If we have no idea the extent then I think its safe to say there is no difinative answer.

So you can say what you want about homework, but its just logic to think that cashman was not overruled on EVERY transation the last 10 years. Is that what you are saying?

[CallOfTheCrow]

Great job cash... mostly excited about Lidle - exactly the player we need here especially the way he has pitched of late. The only thing I am a little disappointed in is not going after a bullpen pitcher. I guess we are relying on Dotel coming back soon and Proctor and Farnsworth continuing to pitch the way they have.

That's too much pressure on Dotel. I'm not expecting much from him once he returns. Coming back from TJ surgery is no easy task.

[jcan411]

We only know one thing for sure. This offseason Cashman gained total control. Since this offseason the Yankees have made mostly great decisions. Before this offseason they made a lot of horrible decisions. I dont know anything for sure, but I am willing to put 2 and 2 together and get 4.

So you postulate that all "public" statments are 100% accurate. Like AROD becoming captain of the rangers a month before being traded. And manager statments of support. I guess when they said that, then it must have been true that cashman was ALWAYS overruled right after 2000 up until now when things are looking up...

[ppa79]

Listen I have been around for the last 10 years.. the extent to which this occured is speculation based on some fact - maybe it was all the transations - maybe it was one - maybe it was most - we have no idea how deep it went. Did it happen? yes. With ever transation? no. If we have no idea the extent then I think its safe to say there is no difinative answer.

So you can say what you want about homework, but its just logic to think that cashman was not overruled on EVERY transation the last 10 years. Is that what you are saying?

It was a fact because there are quotes from many sources talking about the Tampa and NY faction. I don't know what happened on every transaction thats why I won't judge him on anything that happened back then.

I don't know what your problem is. Cashman makes some great moves and you go and criticize him. Who needs Yankee haters when they have fans like you.

[simmy886]

Listen I have been around for the last 10 years.. the extent to which this occured is speculation based on some fact - maybe it was all the transations - maybe it was one - maybe it was most - we have no idea how deep it went. Did it happen? yes. With ever transation? no. If we have no idea the extent then I think its safe to say there is no difinative answer.

So you can say what you want about homework, but its just logic to think that cashman was not overruled on EVERY transation the last 10 years. Is that what you are saying?

By the very fact we don't know about those years, maybe the best method of judging Cashman is by looking at what we know he is 100% responsible for, i.e everything since the offseason when he got full control. Wouldn't you agree to that?

[Jasbro]

So you postulate that all "public" statments are 100% accurate. Like AROD becoming captain of the rangers a month before being traded. And manager statments of support. I guess when they said that, then it must have been true that cashman was ALWAYS overruled right after 2000 up until now when things are looking up...

Regardless of the general veracity of public statements, I don't think there is any doubt that the organizational structure and philosophy has changed dramatically this past year, and that Cashman is the primary reason why.

[jcan411]

It was a fact because there are quotes from many sources talking about the Tampa and NY faction. I don't know what happened on every transaction thats why I won't judge him on anything that happened back then.

I don't know what your problem is. Cashman makes some great moves and you go and criticize him. Who needs Yankee haters when they have fans like you.

I'm not criticizing. I love the moves. I'm just a little mifted at what we have become. some revolving door team for huge contract megastars. Its like the smoking ban. I love it but i hate that it is a restrictive law.

I love that we can do everything to win, but its somewhat joyless to be the only ones in the league to be able to do this...I have more repect for the tigers and twins, etc. Thats my point. that was more th 96' yankees when i became a huge fan. Cashman has little to do with this phenominom. He had ALL the leverage in the abreau deal and he always will. thats not SKILL, but power, coming from being the GM of the yankees...

[JeterRodriguezSheff]

So you postulate that all "public" statments are 100% accurate. Like AROD becoming captain of the rangers a month before being traded. And manager statments of support. I guess when they said that, then it must have been true that cashman was ALWAYS overruled right after 2000 up until now when things are looking up...

Umm what are you talking about? Cashman was on his way out until George gave him the control he wanted at the last second. The fact that all the meeting are held in New York instead of Tampa now should give enough indication that is the truth. I dont know what happened before this year and who made what decisions. The only things I know for sure are as follows:

1) Before this offseason there has always been mumblings about Cashman being in a power struggle with Steinbrenner and the Tampa people. Also Stick Michaels was basically designated to nothing.

2)Cashman was about to leave this offseason, but re-signed under 2 conditions. 1 of them was to have complete control of the baseball decisions. The second was Stick Michaels being brought back to have an important part of the decision making.

3)Before this offseason there were a lot of terrible decisions and some terrible trades.

4)After this offseason, there have been mostly great decisions.

5)Nobody knows what has happened for sure, but I dont think 3 and 4 are just a coincidence.

[jcan411]

Regardless of the general veracity of public statements, I don't think there is any doubt that the organizational structure and philosophy has changed dramatically this past year, and that Cashman is the primary reason why.

i have no idea how this is different then justice, or neagle, or mondesi, or any other mid season pick up the last 10 years that is a salary dump from another team. Like i said, cashman had all the leverage.

and i always enjoy barbing with you jasbro

[JeterRodriguezSheff]

i have no idea how this is different then justice, or neagle, or mondesi, or any other mid season pick up the last 10 years that is a salary dump from another team. Like i said, cashman had all the leverage.

and i always enjoy barbing with you jasbro

What about robbing the Pirates blind and getting a player with a career 120 ops+?