The New York Mets Thread

[DaSh 1s]

I could see Reyes getting 100 RBIs if he hits 3rd.

Not with Castillo in front of him.

[panther55]

this is another old thread,Who cares about 2006!!

[StarCat]

Castillo batting leadoff?

[SI Baseballman]

As a Mets fan, I definately see Freddy Garcia as our 5th starter this year.

I can easily see him going 12-8 with a 4.15 ERA, which I'll gladly take.

I hope Livan packed his snowshoes, because he'll need them in Buffalo in April.

[RYMASTER or Ryan_Yankees]

"Welcome to Citi Field!"


Photo by "saltzy23" at baseball-fever.com

[Snatch Catch]

Ramon Castro looks like a hispanic McBain.

[ny]

Johan has tightness in his elbow will miss his next start, wonder how long it will take until he finally blows that thing out?

[b-ball-lunachick]

Johan has tightness in his elbow will miss his next start, wonder how long it will take until he finally blows that thing out?

I was wondering aloud in some other thread that if he goes down, is it too early to call the Mets season?

[effdamets]

I was wondering aloud in some other thread that if he goes down, is it too early to call the Mets season?

Whoa...
I was reading this in a different context for a second.....

[nnysiny]

Craig Carton practically jumped out the window over this news. pretty funny

[Casey37]

Kinda makes sense to me..

Jerry Manuel is unpopular with fellow Grapefruit League managers for exercising his right to have the Mets' home games played under NL rules without a designated hitter.

The Tigers already have pleaded with Manuel to use the DH when they visit Port St. Lucie on March 25, but Manuel is sticking to his guns. He even had Oliver Perez bat second yesterday against the Marlins to work on his bunting.

"That doesn't bother me," Manuel said of the other teams' complaints. "We have to get ready for the season."

http://www.nypost.com/seven/02272009...han_157219.htm

[hellonewman]

Kinda makes sense to me..




http://www.nypost.com/seven/02272009...han_157219.htm

I don't get it ... today they let the Cardinals use a DH. (Yeah, the Cardinals.)

[CallOfTheCrow]

Pete Abe

UPDATE, 9:51 a.m.: Big news from Mets camp. Johan Santana is out “indefinitely” with a sore elbow. That is ominous news.

[Casey37]

I don't get it ... today they let the Cardinals use a DH. (Yeah, the Cardinals.)

You're right, the Cards did use a DH (Jay) in that game, but strangely enough, the Mets didn't. Very odd.

[scooterfan]

Pete Abe

UPDATE, 9:51 a.m.: Big news from Mets camp. Johan Santana is out “indefinitely” with a sore elbow. That is ominous news.

The Wilpons and SNY are saying the rosary that Santana is going to be OK. The worst case scenario (TJS) likely means the Mets don't even get a sniff of the postseason.

[eaganmafia]

I dont think this Santana thing is that big of a deal. You know there gonna play it extra careful with him. Let him rest, and I bet he'll be fine by mid-March.

[keg411]

Apparently it's a tricep issue, so it doesn't look related to TJS (if I were a Mets fan, I'd be more worried if it was forearm pain). But the Mets training staff was awful last year if you see the handling of Ryan Church and Billy Wagner (who I knew was destined for TJS when the injury was first reported), so if they kept the same people, I'd be a bit skittish.

[nnysiny]

Santana's opening day start "in jeopardy."
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/29442328/

[Eldee5]

Pete Abe

UPDATE, 9:51 a.m.: Big news from Mets camp. Johan Santana is out “indefinitely” with a sore elbow. That is ominous news.

But you snipped the best line from the quote:

http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/02/2...ns-at-yankees/

UPDATE, 9:51 a.m.: Big news from Mets camp. Johan Santana is out “indefinitely” with a sore elbow. That is ominous news.
They need to make Hank Steinbrenner write “I will listen to Brian Cashman” 1,000 times on a blackboard.

[CallOfTheCrow]

But you snipped the best line from the quote:

http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/02/2...ns-at-yankees/

Yeah I should have posted that too

[teknetic]

The Wilpons and SNY are saying the rosary that Santana is going to be OK. The worst case scenario (TJS) likely means the Mets don't even get a sniff of the postseason.

Him being out a few weeks-month isn't very good news either. Guessing it'll be similar to the Kazmir thing.

[eaganmafia]

Having miss even a month can't bode too well with the Phillies in that division.

I'll take the Marlins over the Phillies right now. Missing a start or two isn't gonna kill the Mets.

Johan will be fine, the guy is a work horse.

[nyy2389]

teknetic[/B]]I'll take the Marlins over the Phillies right now. Missing a start or two isn't gonna kill the Mets.

Don't sleep on the fish.

[nnysiny]

Don't sleep on the fish.

HAHA, your sig is great

[nyy2389]

HAHA, your sig is great

thanks LOL, do you know how I can make it my avatar???

[Casey37]

There's trouble in paradise. Warthen, Santana play the blame game.

The Great Elbow Scare appeared to pass yesterday, but not without some apparent friction between Johan Santana and Mets pitching coach Dan Warthen.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/03022009..._ca_157588.htm

[Eldee5]

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...=.jsp&c_id=mlb

PORT ST. LUCIE, Fla. -- The assignment was to pitch an inning of relief Monday and Tuesday. And Duaner Sanchez found that odd at this stage of Spring Training.
"I've never done that," he said Monday afternoon. And by afternoon Tuesday, he still hadn't. Rather than watch another inning from a pitcher they no longer regarded as the asset he once was, the Mets released Sanchez early Tuesday.
The decision, made late Monday, caught Sanchez by surprise and prompted a degree of disbelief in a clubhouse that had assumed he was one of the five definites -- he, Francisco Rodriguez, J.J. Putz, Sean Green and Pedro Feliciano -- in a bullpen that has yet to be defined fully. As late as Monday afternoon, before the meeting, manager Jerry Manuel suggested he liked Sanchez's experience as a New York reliever, and pitching coach Dan Warthen said, "I consider [Sanchez] part of our team."

[Rocketbooster]

http://www.nypost.com/seven/03112009/sports/mets/mets_cut_sanchez__manuel_blindsided_by_m_159031.htm
Manuel appeared to be embarrassed by the sudden turn of events, considering Sanchez’s release came less than 24 hours after Manuel spoke of the reliever being firmly in his regular-season plans.
Manuel admitted the decision blindsided him when it was delivered to the manager late Monday night in a meeting that Manuel said was brief and one-sided.


***This is awkward – I don’t blame Manuel for being embarrassed, given that he had just spoken with Sanchez about his plans for him in 2009. Omar should have discussed this with Manuel (even though it is solely his decision).

[Yankees1962]

http://www.nypost.com/seven/03112009/sports/mets/mets_cut_sanchez__manuel_blindsided_by_m_159031.htm
Manuel appeared to be embarrassed by the sudden turn of events, considering Sanchez’s release came less than 24 hours after Manuel spoke of the reliever being firmly in his regular-season plans.
Manuel admitted the decision blindsided him when it was delivered to the manager late Monday night in a meeting that Manuel said was brief and one-sided.


***This is awkward – I don’t blame Manuel for being embarrassed, given that he had just spoken with Sanchez about his plans for him in 2009. Omar should have discussed this with Manuel (even though it is solely his decision).

Which is why Omar isn't as good as a GM as Cashman because he makes some decisions like he's in a vacuum and leaves his manager looking foolish at times. Cashman likes to work and consult with his manager before acting.

[CanoForPresident]

Which is why Omar isn't as good as a GM as Cashman because he makes some decisions like he's in a vacuum and leaves his manager looking foolish at times. Cashman likes to work and consult with his manager before acting.

I think that was already established after what he gave up for a few months of Bartolo Colon.

[teknetic]

They're such a tacky orginization.

[eaganmafia]

I think that was already established after what he gave up for a few months of Bartolo Colon.

There was alot more to that trade then just getting raped in the deal. Omar and everyone thought the Expos were gonna get contracted at years end. They were in shooting distance of the postseason and he went for it. He knew he overpaid, but he went for it it what many thought would be the Expos last season.

[Rocketbooster]

They're such a tacky orginization.

Firing Willie at midnight after making him fly cross country to LA pretty much solidified my belief that that is true

[Rocketbooster]

Which is why Omar isn't as good as a GM as Cashman because he makes some decisions like he's in a vacuum and leaves his manager looking foolish at times. Cashman likes to work and consult with his manager before acting.

That's what happens when the ownership and the media sing his praises to the high heavens. Omar has a good relationship with the press and they make him out to be near-perfect. Thus, he probably believes what he reads. The Wilpons seem to always blame everyone for the team's failings except Omar. In essence, the man gets all of the credit and none of the blame. My word, the Mets have collapsed two years in a row and it barely raises the pulse of the mediots. The Yankees miss the playoffs ONCE in over a decade and it's the end of the world. In the meantime, people like Ken Davidoff make snarky comments about Cash all the time in their columns......and this on top of the virulently anti-Cash Daily News.

[eaganmafia]

That's what happens when the ownership and the media sing his praises to the high heavens. Omar has a good relationship with the press and they make him out to be near-perfect. Thus, he probably believes what he reads. The Wilpons seem to always blame everyone for the team's failings except Omar. In essence, the man gets all of the credit and none of the blame. My word, the Mets have collapsed two years in a row and it barely raises the pulse of the mediots. The Yankees miss the playoffs ONCE in over a decade and it's the end of the world. In the meantime, people like Ken Davidoff make snarky comments about Cash all the time in their columns......and this on top of the virulently anti-Cash Daily News.

What the hell are you talking about? Omar is alot of heat and blame for the Willie firing and the way the last two seasons ended.

[Rocketbooster]

What the hell are you talking about? Omar is alot of heat and blame for the Willie firing and the way the last two seasons ended.

You go on with your delusion that Omar has taken NEAR the criticism for 2 collapses that Cashman has taken for ONE year missing the playoffs -........I'm not inclined at this point to respond further since I can see that you are just a TAD out of control.

[eaganmafia]

You go on with your delusion that Omar has taken NEAR the criticism for 2 collapses that Cashman has taken for ONE year missing the playoffs -........I'm not inclined at this point to respond further since I can see that you are just a TAD out of control.

The majority of the heat Cashman took this offseason was handing 40% of the rotation with Hughes and IPK when Santana was sitting right there. I'm not getting into the Santana debate, but I think it's more then fair to question Cashman for not getting the best pitcher in the league after Hughes and IPK fail and watching Rasner and Ponson start games.

[DaSh 1s]

I think that was already established after what he gave up for a few months of Bartolo Colon.

Whew, I just looked it up to refresh myself, and WOW

[LuckyLopez]

You go on with your delusion that Omar has taken NEAR the criticism for 2 collapses that Cashman has taken for ONE year missing the playoffs -........I'm not inclined at this point to respond further since I can see that you are just a TAD out of control.

With all due respect, if you missed all the negative backlash thrown at the Mets and Omar the last couple of seasons then you missed a LOT. Omar took PLENTY of flak for the collapses. He got raked over the coals for the Randolph firing. And well before that Omar was far from untouchable to the media as at one time they even spread a ridiculous theory that he's a racist who didn't want any non-Hispanics.

[Yankeeah]

Santana was sitting right there.

When was this? As I recall, we would have had to give him an enormous contract as well as several prospects. Hardly "sitting right there."

[DaPip1998]

With all due respect, if you missed all the negative backlash thrown at the Mets and Omar the last couple of seasons then you missed a LOT. Omar took PLENTY of flak for the collapses. He got raked over the coals for the Randolph firing. And well before that Omar was far from untouchable to the media as at one time they even spread a ridiculous theory that he's a racist who didn't want any non-Hispanics.

I have to agree with Rocketbooster-Davidoff and Heyman consistently sing Omar's praises to high heavens with very few 'bashings' after the collapses, and while the Mets, as an organization, took a lot of heat (deservedly) for the Willie firing, I recall very few people calling out Omar individually for it.

[aeromac76]

With all due respect, if you missed all the negative backlash thrown at the Mets and Omar the last couple of seasons then you missed a LOT. Omar took PLENTY of flak for the collapses. He got raked over the coals for the Randolph firing. And well before that Omar was far from untouchable to the media as at one time they even spread a ridiculous theory that he's a racist who didn't want any non-Hispanics.

I actually think the Mets got treated very fairly for their collapses.
The issue is not with how the Mets are treated, the issue with Yankees fans is how the Yankees are treated.
The Yankees get treated so poorly by the media that when the other team in NY suffers a meltdown and gets treated exactly as they should, it seems like they get a pass even though they did not..

[The Q Bomb]

...The Yankees get treated so poorly by the media that when the other team in NY suffers a meltdown and gets treated exactly as they should, it seems like they get a pass even though they did not..

True dat!

[scooterfan]

Freddy Garcia got bombed by the Braves today - 7 hits in 2 innings.
Supposedly he's learning a new pitch - but if he can't get a little more velocity on the FB, he's toast.

Livan looks like the Mets' 5th starter - 5 strong innings today. He'll eat innings - and probably most of the clubhouse buffet spread

[Yankeeah]

SNY just had a graphic on the screen that had a quote from the Daily News that said:

"SNY, the place to go when a big New York sports story breaks."

Might that have something to do with the Daily News having a show on SNY? Corny as hell

[CT_Bomber]

This kid I know, who's a Mets fan, texted me this morning saying "wow the Yanks got crushed by the Orioles, it's just funny after all the money they spent".
Gotta love Mets fans and their inferiority complex; they just have to take a stab at the Yankees every chance they get. Not that I take any of it personal.
I don't even have a problem with the Mets, but many of their fans are ridiculous with their petty jealousy.

[JeterRodriguezSheff]

This kid I know, who's a Mets fan, texted me this morning saying "wow the Yanks got crushed by the Orioles, it's just funny after all the money they spent".
Gotta love Mets fans and their inferiority complex; they just have to take a stab at the Yankees every chance they get. Not that I take any of it personal.
I don't even have a problem with the Mets, but many of their fans are ridiculous with their petty jealousy.

Its funny because the Mets have won most of their openers for like the last 39 years, and what have they really accomplished in that span?

[CT_Bomber]

Its funny because the Mets have won most of their openers for like the last 39 years, and what have they really accomplished in that span?

Not too much, hence the petty jealousy I mentioned above.

[RogerNatural]

Just waiting for the Sheffield fiasco to begin... hope it starts when A-Rod returns.

[Yankee Cowboy]

You go on with your delusion that Omar has taken NEAR the criticism for 2 collapses that Cashman has taken for ONE year missing the playoffs -........I'm not inclined at this point to respond further since I can see that you are just a TAD out of control.

Of course the Mets have not taken near the criticism for blowing up the last 2 Septembers....and they really shouldn't....I mean they have not set the bar very high
Two world Championships in 47 years......did anybody really expect anything different

The Yankees are judged on on much higher standard.....they are the Gold Standard of Baseball.....The Yankees missing the playoffs is big news ....on the other hand the mets making the playoffs is big news.....They should not and will not be treated the same by the press.