We'll have to investigate that...Originally Posted by GordonGecko
What... a... mess...
We'll have to investigate that...
What... a... mess...
If I recall correctly, Bernazard was the leading voice in getting Willie fired. I would think plain old human nature would cause Willie to have a little satisfaction today.
Those who can — do. Those who can’t — criticize.
well at least he did one thing right
SNY is trying to get Adam Rubin to talk about the accusations Minaya made towards him.
Those who can — do. Those who can’t — criticize.
Good thing we have Jean Afterman.
The Mets organization should be embarassed and ashamed.
If hollywood wrote a worst case scenario script for this year for that team, they have surpassed it.
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Admittedly I don't follow the Mets all that closely but it seems to me like it's a different manager but the same old song. The fault generally always lies within the players.
Those who can — do. Those who can’t — criticize.
Can this organization do anything right?
Negative. His cutter is not a human pitch, even he says he does not know why it moves like it does, says "God does it." I believe him.
I just watched a beat writer being interviewed by other beat writers
Good going Omar. This is going to cause an epic ................ storm.
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Yeah, he didn't sound convincing to me. Like most things, the truth is probably somewhere in between.
Those who can — do. Those who can’t — criticize.
Adam Rubin was livid during the press conference and afterwards. He did say though, that all he ever did was ask Omar how to go about getting a job in MLB, which is a far cry from actually lobbying for one. Besides, like one of the SNY reporters said, was Adam Rubin actually looking to be named VP of Player Development without any baseball experience whatsoever? This whole thing is getting more bizarre by the moment.
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I think the guy was interested in a job at some point, but clearly still wrote an accurate story since Tony Bernazard was fired, and wasn't a good person. No reason to call him out at all. I doubt a beat writer is ready to be interviewed when he's used to being on the other side.
UM... waiting for football
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wow, the guy is not going to be able to cover the mets anymore.
I saw some of the video; Omar comes off looking tremendously unprofessional.
Disgusting job by Minaya. Attempted to destroy Rubin's career and may have effectively destroyed his own instead. Good riddance.
"I see Jesus Montero as a potential once-in-a-generation force on offense."
I wonder if there are any Mets fans who actually still defend Omar, as a talent evaluator or as a person..
Rubin just teed off on Minaya & Bernazard live on SNY.
What a joke of an organization this is.
Are there any video clips online?
"I see Jesus Montero as a potential once-in-a-generation force on offense."
Just heard about this from Abraham. That's crazy... is Minaya trying to get fired? Hell, I imagine his job is no fun at this point, and with the money the Mets would have to pay him regardless, he'd be able to live comfortably forever.
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Heyman's right (for once) when suggesting that Minaya wasn't too happy with letting Bernazard go and that it was the Wilpons' call. Can't imagine Minaya being smart enough to let go of a complete tool like Bernie.
Laughing stock of the sport.
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If they expect us to believe it was Minaya who orchestrated this whole thing, including the Rubin incident, and that Jeff Wilpon had nothing to do with it, they must think we're all naive fools.
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EDIT: Just watched the two videos. What a joke to put the guy in this position. Jeffey Coupon, Omar and Co. should be ashamed of themselves for this move.
"I see Jesus Montero as a potential once-in-a-generation force on offense."
Kay was killing the Mets on his radio show. i laughed when he said "that was more embarrassing than the Baha Men doing "who let the dogs out" at Game 4 of the World Series"
I can't believe I missed it.Is there a link anywhere yet?
Well Omar's an idiot then - that guy sounds like a maniac...
thanks for putting up the link- I'm going to watch it now...
omg - just watched the video..Omar is so ticked off he's shaking...and he sound like a complete idiot. He keeps trying to focus on "where the reports came from" instead of why the hell the guy acted like that in the first place.
I do feel bad for the writer because I don't know how he is going to cover the Mets now...unbelievable...
When is Minaya's plan going to pay dividends?
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You know for someone in his position, his stuttering and stammering at every press conference is just embarrassing, reminds me of gammons.
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for those who don't have Insider....from Buster Olney:
Minaya shifts the glare -- to himself
Monday, July 27, 2009 | Feedback | Print Entry
The instant during his press conference Monday that Mets general manager Omar Minaya veered unexpectedly from discussing why he was firing a trusted confidante, and instead began uttering words that impugned the integrity of a New York Daily News reporter, his time in power unofficially began to run out.
He will not survive this, and this has nothing to do with whether what he said was accurate or inaccurate. Minaya won't survive because he now has become a public liability, a target of criticism, and if there is a defining characteristic of the Mets' organization, it's a devotion to the whims of public opinion. Within seconds of Minaya's press conference ending, talk radio in New York erupted with criticism of the general manager for how he handled the situation. And that's just the quick response. This will only worsen in the hours and days ahead, as the blogs and columns of reaction are posted and the Mets fall out of contention.
Minaya has mere hours to contain this. He could start with what would have to be a retraction and a full-blown apology. And unless that happens, his performance at the press conference will be replayed and reviewed and recalled until the Mets' ownership finally won't be able to take any more.Minaya was pressed by reporters on this point, and insisted that he was not accusing Rubin of writing the stories to undercut a member of the Mets' front office because he hadn't gotten a job.
The implication of his words, however, could not have been less subtle, and while Minaya never accused Rubin of vindictive reporting, he might as well have, given the oblique way he brought up the suggestion, without being prompted. It was, at best, inadvertent and inexcusable, and at worst, a vicious bait and switch. Rather than simply acknowledging that Bernazard had acted poorly and that he needed to be replaced, Minaya directly attacked Rubin's credibility.
To review: Minaya essentially acknowledged what Rubin wrote was accurate, to the point of firing Bernazard, but still verbally tarred and feathered him.The Mets are in the midst of a disastrous season. Much of it is due to the fact they are victims of a staggering series of injuries to most of their best players -- Carlos Delgado, Jose Reyes and Carlos Beltran are all hurt. This is not Minaya's fault, and he is not the reason they will probably fail to win the NL East.
But Minaya's words of obfuscation at the press conference now will raise questions about his management style, and the drum beat about this will go on and on and on, until the Wilpons decide that they need to change the subject.
Today, Bernazard was the guy who was thrown overboard, but now it is Minaya who has stepped onto the plank.
Wow. The Mets are possibly more of a mess than the Nats right now.
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I was on SNY to see if there was a video of Omar's supposed apology but couldn't find it.
I did find this however:
http://web.sny.tv/news/article.jsp?y...=36019&vkey=32
Hilarious.
"I see Jesus Montero as a potential once-in-a-generation force on offense."
Rob Neyer weighing in
Man Omar thought he was taking on one guy with the power of the pen but these writers can have the last word over and over to back their colleague. I think this is hysterical.Minaya said the team's inquiry into Bernazard began even before the first report was published Wednesday by The Daily News. He said that the published reports expedited the investigation and that the franchise's human resources department presented him with a report Sunday. He said the two men met later Sunday to talk about what the investigation found.
"I was surprised by some of the things that were in the report - how could I not be?” Minaya said.
Boy, that sure is some fine damage control.
We can't look inside the minds of the Mets' owners, but there's an excellent chance that Minaya's position has simply become untenable. It's one thing to lose, especially when you've got a halfway-decent excuse (all the injuries). It's one thing for one of your highest-ranking employees to be out of control, and not know about it before the newspapers.
Both, though? I just don't see how Minaya can survive these twin messes. Nor can I see how he should.
The sports writer fraternity is circling their wagons. Minaya may as well put a for sale on his house now because he's done.
Those who can — do. Those who can’t — criticize.
He deserves to be, and never mind if it's writers protecting one of their own. He shouldn't keep his job after that performance.
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I agree but you know that's playing into this now. Minaya doesn't have an ice cream cone's chance in hell of surviving this.
Those who can — do. Those who can’t — criticize.
Definitely. It's kind of amazing that it took this, though - you'd have thought his performance as GM over the last few years would have been more than enough to get him fired.
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The guy is a complete assclown, he isn't apologizing. This is probably the best day the Mets have had all year.
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Could the Mets be going another round with Bobby V soon?
meet the Knicks, meet the Knicks...
seriously -- is it possible the Dolans could be involved in this mess? seems like their kind of mess.
Wow. The gift that keeps on giving...
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Holy ................. I especially enjoy the look on Rubin's face when he's mentioned. What a show by Omar. Wowowowwowow.
Poor Rubin though. He sounds legitimately upset.
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That's what I've been thinking today. There but for the grace of God...
"We understand that John Henry must be embarrassed, frustrated and disappointed by his failure in this transaction. Unlike the Yankees, he chose not to go the extra distance for his fans in Boston."
SNY's split screen was awesome.
This made me chuckle:
I love Ron Darling -- poor guy is stuck with the Mets.Not surprisingly, Minaya's latest debacle was lambasted by hosts and callers on both WFAN - which carries the Mets - and 1050 ESPN, whose Michael Kay also works for the Yankees' YES Network.
SNY, too, didn't shy away from criticizing the general manager, if not ownership.
Kevin Burkhardt called Minaya's performance "kinda nutty'' and game announcers Gary Cohen, Ron Darling and Keith Hernandez took turns lamenting what had occurred.
"I find it kind of hard to believe that Adam Rubin was brought into this," Hernandez said.
Said Darling: "It's an awful day here in Met-land.''
http://www.newsday.com/columnists/ne...dent-1.1330702
Umm, he didn't apologize for WHAT he said, just the forum in which he said it...Afterward, Minaya apologized for what he said about Rubin.
"That was not a proper forum for me to raise those issues," said Minaya. "In bringing up those issues, I don't think it was right and I want to apologize."
Mets chief operating officer Jeff Wilpon acknowledged he earlier spoke to Rubin for career advice, but added he didn't think "there was anything wrong with that."
even funnier is Wilpon taking Rubin's side..
http://www.seattlepi.com/scorecard/m...ticleID=261884
Said Darling: "It's an awful day here in Met-land.''
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Wow, Omar Minaya is a big tool. What's funny is that usually in a situation like this, the speculation is that a reporter's unnamed source is a guy behind the scenes trying to grab more power and maybe take someone's job. Here, Minaya is implying the reporter wants the job himself.
Yes, I'm sure that Rubin thought if he could get Bernazerd fired that he would be the natural succesor. (Rolls Eyes).
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