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    Melky bidding adieu?? Rumored deal to Pittsburgh

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    Notes: Cabrera may be on way out

    Whispered trade with Pittsburgh includes Burnitz, Craig Wilson

    NEW YORK -- General manager Brian Cashman has made it clear that pitching prospect Philip Hughes is as close to untouchable as any player in the Yankees' farm system.

    Melky Cabrera on the other hand, may not be.

    According to a Major League executive, the Yankees and Pirates have discussed a deal that would send the young outfielder to Pittsburgh in exchange for outfielder Jeromy Burnitz and first baseman/outfielder Craig Wilson.
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    No thanks, need either more quality or younger players to move Melky.
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    I need to digest this for a second before replying.

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    Priced way too high for eating all of that salary...
    Calmer than you are.

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    Ick.

    I understand wanting to make a less costly trade, but junk is junk.

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    Why can't we cultivate Melky and see what he can do for us? I mean, we get Sheffield and Matsui back in late August or Early September.. why get one of these guys when they are just going to ride the pine in the postseason?

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    We hardly knew you, Melky.

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    Just read the direct quotes from Cashman just because Pittsburgh made that proposal doesn't mean that Cashman is going to make the trade. I wouldn't make that trade, the Yankees would be giving up a young 21 year old outfielder with a lot of promise for a 37 year old that's past his prime and a soon to be free agent and taking that salary relief for Pittsburg.

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    i would not mind craig wilson but i don't like burnitz

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    Plus, for all we know a mid-level pitcher is part of the trade, too

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    Id do that deal though id obviously like Abreu more. Melky right now has the speed to be a centerfielder, but not the power. The problem is not developing power, he should develop enough for Centerfield but by that time his body will fill out and he will be a corner outfielder and he isnt going to develop enough power to play a corner. He will be a fourth outfielder. Craig Wilson is good, and i think or Burnitz as a throw in.

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    No thanks, thats going against everything Cashman said he wouldnt do.

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    this trade would be god awful. if the Yankees are paying both salaries then Cashman is getting ripped off big time. even getting rid of Melky to get Abreu is iffy for me

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    Neither Burnitz or Wilson played tonight.

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    We are just adding more age to this team.. and large contracts. If we want to add another large contract to our team, why not pick up Flash Gordon instead?

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    I'm really trying to prevent my love of Melky from clouding my judgment here. I honestly don't know.
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    That deal would blow...

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    I don't want to build an offense around Jeromy Burnitz. Craig Wilson? The Pirates need protection around Jason Bay.

    I'll pass.
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    Way to take the fun out after a big win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yanks21
    That deal would blow...
    Truly

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    I doubt Cashman would make this trade after the night melky had today

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRNXBMRS
    No thanks, thats going against everything Cashman said he wouldnt do.
    Cashman said he wouldn't trade away our future. Melky is not our future, I'm sorry to say. With all the talk about him you'd think he has a 900 OPS. It's struggled to stay above 700 and he looks overmatched against good pitching. Wilson is already much much better than Melky and if we have to eat Burnitz's contract, oh well. It's not like we're giving up a Hughes-level talent here.

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    Wilson makes it worth thinking about, but the thought of Burnitz in pinstripes gives me a rash. Pass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nnysiny
    this trade would be god awful. if the Yankees are paying both salaries then Cashman is getting ripped off big time. even getting rid of Melky to get Abreu is iffy for me
    I can understand not liking this trade. However I think most of you are overrating Melky. He projects to hit around 15 homers a year. Not enough power from a corner spot and replaceable by a lot of guys on the FA market. Not trading him for abreu would be insanity. Hell if the Philly Gm traded Abreu for only Melky(uless we ate all the salary) he would be run out of town.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob
    Cashman said he wouldn't trade away our future. Melky is not our future, I'm sorry to say. With all the talk about him you'd think he has a 900 OPS. It's struggled to stay above 700 and he looks overmatched against good pitching. Wilson is already much much better than Melky and if we have to eat Burnitz's contract, oh well. It's not like we're giving up a Hughes-level talent here.
    Neither of those guys are the present.

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    Wilson 2006 obp .347 slg.485 ba.268

    Burnitz 2006 obp .277 slg.419 ba.228

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShaneTravis
    Neither Burnitz or Wilson played tonight.
    Wow..
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeterRodriguezSheff
    I can understand not liking this trade. However I think most of you are overrating Melky. He projects to hit around 15 homers a year. Not enough power from a corner spot and replaceable by a lot of guys on the FA market. Not trading him for abreu would be insanity. Hell if the Philly Gm traded Abreu for only Melky(uless we ate all the salary) he would be run out of town.
    If I'm going to trade Melky it's going to be for somebody that's going to help this team beyond the next two months.

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    I'll kill myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam18
    Way to take the fun out after a big win.
    Amen to that.

    I say this rumored deal is bullsh*t!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob
    Cashman said he wouldn't trade away our future. Melky is not our future, I'm sorry to say. With all the talk about him you'd think he has a 900 OPS. It's struggled to stay above 700 and he looks overmatched against good pitching. Wilson is already much much better than Melky and if we have to eat Burnitz's contract, oh well. It's not like we're giving up a Hughes-level talent here.
    Yeah, I'm not sure it's something where down the road we'd be like "wow, look at Melky Cabrera, what a terrible trade that was." But at the same time, I'm not sure it helps much if at all. Aren't they both terrible outfielders?
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    Add Oliver Perez to this deal and I'll take it.
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    Just say no. I'd give up Melky in a package for Abreu. But certainly not for Wilson and Burnitz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMick@ND
    Yeah, I'm not sure it's something where down the road we'd be like "wow, look at Melky Cabrera, what a terrible trade that was." But at the same time, I'm not sure it helps much if at all. Aren't they both terrible outfielders?
    Not as bad as Bernie and there's a shot Burnitz could turn it around in the AL. It's worth a shot and Wilson should have no problem posting his usual 830-840 OPS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BroadwayBomber55
    Amen to that.

    I say this rumored deal is bullsh*t!
    Its on the front page of MLB.com, its not a done deal, but is isnt BS either. Id welcome Craig Wilson, although I do like Melky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yankees1962
    If I'm going to trade Melky it's going to be for somebody that's going to help this team beyond the next two months.
    What do you expect to get for Melky? What type of player do you think we could get for him?

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    A suggestion, FWIW...when we discuss these types of things, it would be really cool to get a stats comparison in the first post or two (thanks Shane).

    Just a suggestion
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    Tell me this doesn't happen. Just someone, please, flash forward, and come back to this thread, and tell me this doesn't happen. Please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob
    Cashman said he wouldn't trade away our future. Melky is not our future, I'm sorry to say. With all the talk about him you'd think he has a 900 OPS. It's struggled to stay above 700 and he looks overmatched against good pitching. Wilson is already much much better than Melky and if we have to eat Burnitz's contract, oh well. It's not like we're giving up a Hughes-level talent here.
    Thats great, but when the Yanks need a hit and Melkys up he has been delivering. Melkys 21 and has a cannon for an arm, he is the future. I think he can be a 20hr .280 85rbi in the future. I do NOT make this trade.

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    I just can't see it happening. Although Melky is only 21 and doesn't project to be a huge homerun hitter by any means that would make him suitable as a corner outfielder, he's still only 21. He's only going to get better from here, and he has shown quite a penchant for getting on base and working pitchers, and he's slowly getting more extra base hits.

    His glove is good enough even with his average production to keep him here.

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    I'm scared there's a pitcher in this we're not hearing about, like Beam????

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeterRodriguezSheff
    Its on the front page of MLB.com, its not a done deal, but is isnt BS either. Id welcome Craig Wilson, although I do like Melky.
    Ok, how strong is Craig Wilson's arm? Does he have the foot speed and athleticism to cover ground? Does he have good reads and timing to the ball?

    Can Wilson hit to all fields?

    A lot of things come into question.

    I'd welcome Craig Wilson too, but I want to keep Melky also.
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    This deal sucks. With Melky the Yankees are 1.5 games out of first placve on July 14. They are playing without almost 300 RBI's (Cano, Matsui, and Sheff). There is no reason for this trade. Melky has been great. No need with the team doing so well.
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    Burnitz is absolutely useless, and Wilson hits decently against horrible NL pitching. I would not be surprised to see his average to dip below .250 in the AL. If we do that deal, the Pirates better send $5 million too to cover their salaries.

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    Please say it ain't so. There is no way Cashman would do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeterRodriguezSheff
    What do you expect to get for Melky? What type of player do you think we could get for him?
    Listen, we all know that whatever trade happens with Melky it's going to be a package trade with some other young players out of our system, but I be damn that I give him up for the likes of Burnitz, who's washed up and a soon to be free agent.

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    Memo to Brian Cashman: Just keep the young lions like Melky, Phil Hughes, J. Brent Cox, and develop them as Yankees only.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShaneTravis
    Neither Burnitz or Wilson played tonight.
    That worries me as it may make this absurd rumor valid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BRNXBMRS
    Thats great, but when the Yanks need a hit and Melkys up he has been delivering.
    There's no such thing as clutch hitting.

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