Melky bidding adieu?? Rumored deal to Pittsburgh

[knickfan23]

http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/NASAp...=.jsp&c_id=nyy


Notes: Cabrera may be on way out
Whispered trade with Pittsburgh includes Burnitz, Craig Wilson

NEW YORK -- General manager Brian Cashman has made it clear that pitching prospect Philip Hughes is as close to untouchable as any player in the Yankees' farm system.

Melky Cabrera on the other hand, may not be.

According to a Major League executive, the Yankees and Pirates have discussed a deal that would send the young outfielder to Pittsburgh in exchange for outfielder Jeromy Burnitz and first baseman/outfielder Craig Wilson.

[Yankees13]

No thanks, need either more quality or younger players to move Melky.

[ShaneTravis]

I need to digest this for a second before replying.

[JavyVazquezIsSick]

Priced way too high for eating all of that salary...

[CharlieHayes]

Ick.

I understand wanting to make a less costly trade, but junk is junk.

[Quangormo]

Ick.

I understand wanting to make a less costly trade, but junk is junk.

Wilson isn't junk, but Burnitz is.

[cmaff05]

Why can't we cultivate Melky and see what he can do for us? I mean, we get Sheffield and Matsui back in late August or Early September.. why get one of these guys when they are just going to ride the pine in the postseason?

[South Facing Epitaph]

We hardly knew you, Melky.

[Yankees1962]

Just read the direct quotes from Cashman just because Pittsburgh made that proposal doesn't mean that Cashman is going to make the trade. I wouldn't make that trade, the Yankees would be giving up a young 21 year old outfielder with a lot of promise for a 37 year old that's past his prime and a soon to be free agent and taking that salary relief for Pittsburg.

[ryanm1058123]

i would not mind craig wilson but i don't like burnitz

[Quangormo]

i would not mind craig wilson but i don't like burnitz

If we're going to have an older player in the deal, make it Roberrto Hernandez. He could help the bullpen.

Besides, why would the Yankee need both Wilson AND Burnitz? Do they think they need 2OFs? If so, then let's talk to Washington about Soriano and Guillen or the Phillies about Abreu aand Burrell.

[CharlieHayes]

Plus, for all we know a mid-level pitcher is part of the trade, too

[JeterRodriguezSheff]

Id do that deal though id obviously like Abreu more. Melky right now has the speed to be a centerfielder, but not the power. The problem is not developing power, he should develop enough for Centerfield but by that time his body will fill out and he will be a corner outfielder and he isnt going to develop enough power to play a corner. He will be a fourth outfielder. Craig Wilson is good, and i think or Burnitz as a throw in.

[ShaneTravis]

Neither Burnitz or Wilson played tonight.

[Tifoso]

Neither Burnitz or Wilson played tonight.

Wow..

[Ghost of Dan Pasqua]

Add Oliver Perez to this deal and I'll take it.

[YankeePride1967]

Neither Burnitz or Wilson played tonight.

That worries me as it may make this absurd rumor valid.

[BRNXBMRS]

No thanks, thats going against everything Cashman said he wouldnt do.

[Jacob]

No thanks, thats going against everything Cashman said he wouldnt do.

Cashman said he wouldn't trade away our future. Melky is not our future, I'm sorry to say. With all the talk about him you'd think he has a 900 OPS. It's struggled to stay above 700 and he looks overmatched against good pitching. Wilson is already much much better than Melky and if we have to eat Burnitz's contract, oh well. It's not like we're giving up a Hughes-level talent here.

[hellonewman]

Wilson makes it worth thinking about, but the thought of Burnitz in pinstripes gives me a rash. Pass.

[dabomb2045]

Just say no. I'd give up Melky in a package for Abreu. But certainly not for Wilson and Burnitz.

[Yankees1962]

Cashman said he wouldn't trade away our future. Melky is not our future, I'm sorry to say. With all the talk about him you'd think he has a 900 OPS. It's struggled to stay above 700 and he looks overmatched against good pitching. Wilson is already much much better than Melky and if we have to eat Burnitz's contract, oh well. It's not like we're giving up a Hughes-level talent here.

Neither of those guys are the present.

[TheMick@ND]

Cashman said he wouldn't trade away our future. Melky is not our future, I'm sorry to say. With all the talk about him you'd think he has a 900 OPS. It's struggled to stay above 700 and he looks overmatched against good pitching. Wilson is already much much better than Melky and if we have to eat Burnitz's contract, oh well. It's not like we're giving up a Hughes-level talent here.

Yeah, I'm not sure it's something where down the road we'd be like "wow, look at Melky Cabrera, what a terrible trade that was." But at the same time, I'm not sure it helps much if at all. Aren't they both terrible outfielders?

[Jacob]

Yeah, I'm not sure it's something where down the road we'd be like "wow, look at Melky Cabrera, what a terrible trade that was." But at the same time, I'm not sure it helps much if at all. Aren't they both terrible outfielders?

Not as bad as Bernie and there's a shot Burnitz could turn it around in the AL. It's worth a shot and Wilson should have no problem posting his usual 830-840 OPS.

[BRNXBMRS]

Cashman said he wouldn't trade away our future. Melky is not our future, I'm sorry to say. With all the talk about him you'd think he has a 900 OPS. It's struggled to stay above 700 and he looks overmatched against good pitching. Wilson is already much much better than Melky and if we have to eat Burnitz's contract, oh well. It's not like we're giving up a Hughes-level talent here.

Thats great, but when the Yanks need a hit and Melkys up he has been delivering. Melkys 21 and has a cannon for an arm, he is the future. I think he can be a 20hr .280 85rbi in the future. I do NOT make this trade.

[Jacob]

Thats great, but when the Yanks need a hit and Melkys up he has been delivering.

There's no such thing as clutch hitting.

[JeterRodriguezSheff]

There's no such thing as clutch hitting.

Melky has a great approach though, he trys to take the pitch up the middle instead of pulling a homer when he is in a big spot.

[BRNXBMRS]

There's no such thing as clutch hitting.

my bad

[CharlieHayes]

By Sam Borden ¶
New York Daily News ¶
NEW YORK — Philadelphia Phillies outfielder Bobby Abreu has been repeatedly linked to the Yankees in trade speculation, but he’s hardly the only player that GM Brian Cashman has looked at during his efforts to upgrade the Bombers before the July 31 deadline. ¶
Nationals outfielder Jose Guillen also has been deemed a possibility, though there is a debate going on within the organization over whether adding Guillen’s reportedly acidic personality to the Yankees’ clubhouse would be a good idea — early indications are that the Yanks have some reservations about it. ¶
Several Yankee executives, according to sources, believe that Guillen’s moodiness and cantankerous edge could ruin the Yanks’ camaraderie; others, however, believe Guillen likely could be acquired on the cheap and would be an adequate replacement for the injured Gary Sheffield. ¶
Of course, the Washington outfielder the Yanks would love to have is Alfonso Soriano, and they’ll continue to monitor his availability, but the Angels seem to have the inside track on trading for the ex-Bomber. If Anaheim backs off, then the Yanks would try to make it happen, though it will be tough to protect their top prospects unless the Nats aren’t able to find anyone who meets their demands. ¶
The Yanks have had dialogue with the Pirates about Craig Wilson and/or Jeromy Burnitz, but weren’t interested in dealing Melky Cabrera for both players when the subject came up recently. ¶
Cashman wouldn’t comment on any specific deals but has said he’s determined to find a deal that will help the team in the present without stripping any of its key pieces for the future. "It’s a tough tightrope to walk but it’s the one I’m walking," he said. ¶
The market for pitchers appears to be thin as far as the Bombers are concerned; although the White Sox are dangling Freddy Garcia and Javier Vazquez, the Yanks don’t figure to have the chips to pull of a blockbuster deal for a pitcher. Jon Lieber could be a possibility if the Phillies’ have a fire sale, but he’s struggled this season and might not be much of an upgrade at this point anyway. ¶
As much as anything else, that’s why the Yanks picked up Sidney Ponson. If they get lucky with the former 17-game winner, then they can focus all of their attention on adding a bat. ¶
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[Yankees1962]

The Yanks have had dialogue with the Pirates about Craig Wilson and/or Jeromy Burnitz, but weren’t interested in dealing Melky Cabrera for both players when the subject came up recently. ¶
Cashman wouldn’t comment on any specific deals but has said he’s determined to find a deal that will help the team in the present without stripping any of its key pieces for the future. "It’s a tough tightrope to walk but it’s the one I’m walking," he said. ¶

That's right Cash, keep the faith.

[Quangormo]

Nationals outfielder Jose Guillen also has been deemed a possibility, though there is a debate going on within the organization over whether adding Guillen’s reportedly acidic personality to the Yankees’ clubhouse would be a good idea — early indications are that the Yanks have some reservations about it. ¶
Several Yankee executives, according to sources, believe that Guillen’s moodiness and cantankerous edge could ruin the Yanks’ camaraderie; others, however, believe Guillen likely could be acquired on the cheap and would be an adequate replacement for the injured Gary Sheffield. ¶ [/size][/font]

Guillen has a good RF arm. He hasn't been hitting, but there are indications that RFK has gotten in his head and a change of scenery might liven up his bat.

The Yankees have added troublesome personalities bnefore, and the leadership cadre has managed to keep them in check and help them blend into the Yankees' environment.

Of course, the Washington outfielder the Yanks would love to have is Alfonso Soriano, and they’ll continue to monitor his availability, but the Angels seem to have the inside track on trading for the ex-Bomber. If Anaheim backs off, then the Yanks would try to make it happen, though it will be tough to protect their top prospects unless the Nats aren’t able to find anyone who meets their demands. ¶ [/size][/font]

I would love to have Sori back in Pinstripes, but I'm afraid it will take Hughes. If we could do it for Melky, a pitcher like Clippard or DeSalvo, a Beam or Smith, and maybe a throw-in of some sort, I'd have to think about making the deal. Put in a little more (Eric Duncan?) and see if the Nats would send up Armas or Hernandez (or maybe Ramon Ortiz.)

The Yanks have had dialogue with the Pirates about Craig Wilson and/or Jeromy Burnitz, but weren’t interested in dealing Melky Cabrera for both players when the subject came up recently. ¶ [/size][/font]

Burnitz is garbage. Getting Roberto Hernandez would be a more effective use of resources.

Cashman wouldn’t comment on any specific deals but has said he’s determined to find a deal that will help the team in the present without stripping any of its key pieces for the future. "It’s a tough tightrope to walk but it’s the one I’m walking," he said. ¶ [/size][/font]

A real balancing act.

The market for pitchers appears to be thin as far as the Bombers are concerned; although the White Sox are dangling Freddy Garcia and Javier Vazquez, the Yanks don’t figure to have the chips to pull of a blockbuster deal for a pitcher. Jon Lieber could be a possibility if the Phillies’ have a fire sale, but he’s struggled this season and might not be much of an upgrade at this point anyway. ¶ [/size][/font]

I wonder what it would take to get Javy back. The White Sox want bullpen help. Farnsworth and Chacon? Deal for Hernandez and Wickman, let Kyle and Shawn move to Chi-town, protect the bullpen, upgrade the rotation, and it may not take prime prospects.

As much as anything else, that’s why the Yanks picked up Sidney Ponson. If they get lucky with the former 17-game winner, then they can focus all of their attention on adding a bat. ¶ [/size][/font]

Hopefully it works out. Sir Sidney has been effective in the past with Moose as his mentor; let's see if he has anything left.

[M&M61]

Thats great, but when the Yanks need a hit and Melkys up he has been delivering. Melkys 21 and has a cannon for an arm, he is the future. I think he can be a 20hr .280 85rbi in the future. I do NOT make this trade.

A lot of outfielders fall into the 20 hr .280 85rbi catagory, not good enough for a champ team, sorry.

[Gehrig'sGhost]

A lot of outfielders fall into the 20 hr .280 85rbi catagory, not good enough for a champ team, sorry.

OTOH, I'll wager that nearly every, if not every, WS Champion has had one of these types of outfielders. It's what other players the team has that counts.

[conkermaniac]

Burnitz is absolutely useless, and Wilson hits decently against horrible NL pitching. I would not be surprised to see his average to dip below .250 in the AL. If we do that deal, the Pirates better send $5 million too to cover their salaries.

[Quangormo]

Cashman said he wouldn't trade away our future. Melky is not our future, I'm sorry to say.

He may not be a prime part of it, but he's a godo complementary player. That is to say, he is not a Bernie in his prime, but he is more like a Chad Curtis: a good, not great, additional part for a contender, competent, adequate, never a star.

[penfold]

He may not be a prime part of it, but he's a godo complementary player. That is to say, he is not a Bernie in his prime, but he is more like a Chad Curtis: a good, not great, additional part for a contender, competent, adequate, never a star.

I like this comparison.

[nnysiny]

this trade would be god awful. if the Yankees are paying both salaries then Cashman is getting ripped off big time. even getting rid of Melky to get Abreu is iffy for me

[JeterRodriguezSheff]

this trade would be god awful. if the Yankees are paying both salaries then Cashman is getting ripped off big time. even getting rid of Melky to get Abreu is iffy for me

I can understand not liking this trade. However I think most of you are overrating Melky. He projects to hit around 15 homers a year. Not enough power from a corner spot and replaceable by a lot of guys on the FA market. Not trading him for abreu would be insanity. Hell if the Philly Gm traded Abreu for only Melky(uless we ate all the salary) he would be run out of town.

[Yankees1962]

I can understand not liking this trade. However I think most of you are overrating Melky. He projects to hit around 15 homers a year. Not enough power from a corner spot and replaceable by a lot of guys on the FA market. Not trading him for abreu would be insanity. Hell if the Philly Gm traded Abreu for only Melky(uless we ate all the salary) he would be run out of town.

If I'm going to trade Melky it's going to be for somebody that's going to help this team beyond the next two months.

[JeterRodriguezSheff]

If I'm going to trade Melky it's going to be for somebody that's going to help this team beyond the next two months.

What do you expect to get for Melky? What type of player do you think we could get for him?

[Yankees1962]

What do you expect to get for Melky? What type of player do you think we could get for him?

Listen, we all know that whatever trade happens with Melky it's going to be a package trade with some other young players out of our system, but I be damn that I give him up for the likes of Burnitz, who's washed up and a soon to be free agent.

[brosiusbuddy]

What do you expect to get for Melky? What type of player do you think we could get for him?

i'd rather have him headline a package that would get us abreu than send him for wilson and burnitz

[nyymt62]

If I'm going to trade Melky it's going to be for somebody that's going to help this team beyond the next two months.

I agree. Burnitz is not going to help this team at anytime. Craig Wilson would be a nice pickup, but I am really quite fond of the enthusiasm Melky brings to the game. Lets let the young guys play and not trade them away. Melky is twenty one, he could be a bust or he could develop into a real good player- give him a chance.

[wileedog]

I agree. Burnitz is not going to help this team at anytime. Craig Wilson would be a nice pickup, but I am really quite fond of the enthusiasm Melky brings to the game. Lets let the young guys play and not trade them away. Melky is twenty one, he could be a bust or he could develop into a real good player- give him a chance.

I would trade him as a centerpiece to get Abreu at this point. I think Abreu would be a great bridge to some of the lower level guys like Tabata.

None of the other proposed deals I have seen look worth it.

[SODM]

I certainly don't think Melky will ever be a superb corner on a championship caliber team but let's not underestimate his value as what he is/will be worst case; a superb bench player / 4th outfielder type.
If traded to another team I do think Melky would develop to be an everyday player. This is exactly why we should lean on keeping him moving forward (Now don't get me wrong. If someone offers up a better talent who is relatively young at a need position we shouldn't hesitate to pull the trigger just because he may be a fan favorite or something).
It is much easier for the Yankees to sign a Gary Sheffield / Bobby Abreu type to play RF than it will be to get someone comparable to Melky to play a role on the bench.
This is why despite our massive payroll we have had a weak bench full of has beens over the past few years.

[35Knucklecurve]

I agree. Burnitz is not going to help this team at anytime. Craig Wilson would be a nice pickup, but I am really quite fond of the enthusiasm Melky brings to the game. Lets let the young guys play and not trade them away. Melky is twenty one, he could be a bust or he could develop into a real good player- give him a chance.

There's a lot to be said for the intangibles like enthusiasm. He goes all out, gives the team some speed and gives the defense something to think about beside the long ball. I don't see how Burnitz could possibly be a good pickup. Wilson, however is someone who would be a good acquisition.

[cmaff05]

We are just adding more age to this team.. and large contracts. If we want to add another large contract to our team, why not pick up Flash Gordon instead?

[TheMick@ND]

I'm really trying to prevent my love of Melky from clouding my judgment here. I honestly don't know.

[Yanks21]

That deal would blow...

[Gehrig'sGhost]

That deal would blow...

Truly