Rumor: Gordon Headed Back To Yankees?

[NYDCYankee]

No wonder baseball executives are wondering if Tom Gordon could be headed back to The Bronx when the Phillies hold their fire sale.

http://www.nypost.com/sports/yankees...eorge_king.htm

Well not a full fledged rumor but people are talking about it.

[apolansk]

George. King. Untrue.

[NYDCYankee]

George. King. Untrue.

Perhaps so. But it is an intresting idea and King isn't always wrong. And not that farfetched. I wonder if the Phillies would take Farnsworth for him. He is younger and has had success in the NL, he does make more money though. Philly is always looking for starters and maybe they would be intrested in Chacon if they can lock him up.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/player...e?statsId=4279

This year Gordon has 21 saves and a 1.91 ERA.

[Yankeees]

We signed Farnsworth, instead of Gordon.We're not going to trade him for Gordon now. It just doesn't, and will not work that way.No matter how much better it'll make our team. I can't picture it.

[flymick24]

George. King. Untrue.

yeap...

[swityak11]

We signed Farnsworth, instead of Gordon.We're not going to trade him for Gordon now. It just doesn't, and will not work that way.No matter how much better it'll make our team. I can't picture it.

The article doesn't mention anything about trading Farnsworth. Or maybe I'm blind.

[mbn007]

George. King. Untrue.

In a nutshell, this is the truth. I have rarely read anything he predicts that actually comes true.

[NYDCYankee]

The article doesn't mention anything about trading Farnsworth. Or maybe I'm blind.

It's not in the article, I just threw it out there.

[ICEBERG18]

Not really a rumor at all. Im sure a lot of Basbeall people are wondering things about players and teams around baseball.

[Yankyfan]

I met Flash with my family in disneyland last year and he told me he loves NY and wanted to stay a Yankee.He said he wold like to close but would set up for Mo again.Obviously it didn't turn out that way but I guess he would mind comming back.

[JamieMadrox]

Perhaps so. But it is an intresting idea and King isn't always wrong. And not that farfetched. I wonder if the Phillies would take Farnsworth for him. He is younger and has had success in the NL, he does make more money though. Philly is always looking for starters and maybe they would be intrested in Chacon if they can lock him up.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/player...e?statsId=4279

This year Gordon has 21 saves and a 1.91 ERA.

why would they take a reliever who is not performing as well for more money? that doesn't make any sense.

[JeffWeaverFan]

No way. He just said that baseball executives wonder about it. We didn't give him a 3rd year on the deal for a reason.

[TheBamTino24]

I think if the Phillies determine their season is over (bout 6 back for the WC with Myers, Lieber and Wolf returning), Gordon to the Yankees would seem like a easy fit. Would Cashman and Co. want to cough up that cash? I have no clue.

And secondly, having 3 highly paid setup men like Dotel, Farnsworth and Gordon would be a struggle to get work in.

[keg411]

I wouldn't mind Gordon back if it was a one-year rental thing -- but he has a three year deal and isn't young. Same reason I was glad they didn't resign him in the first place.

[Hitman23]

get the buckets ready....

[YanksForLife]

Gordon pitching the 8th inning against the Sox........

[JamieMadrox]

Gordon pitching the 8th inning against the Sox........

farnsworth pitching in any inning against anybody..............

[YanksForLife]

farnsworth pitching in any inning against anybody..............

You make a good point.

[SheffRocks11]

farnsworth pitching in any inning against anybody..............

yes that is true...

[Mattpat11]

Oh please oh please oh please

[ManilaYankee]

Gordon will be pissed. He left NY to close games and then be sent back to be a bridge to Mo again.

Anyway, if ever this is "true", anybody knows if Gordon has a no-trade clause?

[M&M61]

We signed Farnsworth, instead of Gordon.We're not going to trade him for Gordon now. It just doesn't, and will not work that way.No matter how much better it'll make our team. I can't picture it.

I sure hope that you turn out to be right.

[FromPagstoRiches]

if the goal is to implode in the postseason, then I say, yeah, he's the guy we need.

[4degrees]

Well, Gordon's stats are based on pitching against the NL East.

The same NL East that lost 12 games in a row to Boston.

We didn't re-sign Gordon because 3 years was too much for a pitcher with an injury history who was heading into his 40's. I don't think anything's changed other than desperation.

[161 and River Ave.]

Pull the trigger get rid of that bum Farnsworthless

[Mattpat11]

if the goal is to implode in the postseason, then I say, yeah, he's the guy we need.

We've already got that guy now. We need a guy that can get us there.

[161 and River Ave.]

if the goal is to implode in the postseason, then I say, yeah, he's the guy we need.

How about we make it there first. Something that won't happen if Farnsworthless continues to implode against the likes of Kansas City and the Braves.

[Yankeeah]

Why are people saying how bad it would be to have Tommy G back? Have you seen our pen?

I seem to remember Gordo retiring what, 30 some odd straight batters a year or so ago? Farns is lucky if he can retire 2 batters in a row.

If we got Gordon back, it would take some pressure off of Farns, Dotel and Proctor.

All being said though, I don't think it will happen.

[knickfan23]

So I see the Yankees want to take Gordon back, huh? Lol. That just tells you how much of a disaster Farnsworth has been.

Now, if Philly wouldnt mind paying the Yankees 8.5 million of Gordon's remaining contract, I would be all for the move.

[Hitman23]

Why are people saying how bad it would be to have Tommy G back? Have you seen our pen?

I'll just wait for the stats guys to let you know the answer to that. You do remember what he did (or didn't do) in the post season, right?

[brosiusbuddy]

i'd like a blockbuster including abreu

[DJ27]

i'd like a blockbuster including abreu

That is what I was thinking too.

[skoonen]

Youve got Dotel and Jesus Colome both coming up soon to help the pen, and its not like the phillies are going to give him away, they will want players in return.

Oh and lets not forget the money

Thomas Gordon: signed 3-year deal worth 18M thru 2008 season on 12/2/05- + he receives salaries of 4.5M in 2006, 7M in 2007 and 5.5M in 2008- + the deal includes a Team Option for 2009 worth 4.5M or a 1M buyout

Thats about 15.75 remaining on his contract.

[DJ27]

Youve got Dotel and Jesus Colome both coming up soon to help the pen, and its not like the phillies are going to give him away, they will want players in return.

Oh and lets not forget the money

Thomas Gordon: signed 3-year deal worth 18M thru 2008 season on 12/2/05- + he receives salaries of 4.5M in 2006, 7M in 2007 and 5.5M in 2008- + the deal includes a Team Option for 2009 worth 4.5M or a 1M buyout

Thats about 15.75 remaining on his contract.

Which means he shouldn't cost much prospect-wise. However, isn't he in his 40's already? 3 years at that age is too much.

[freebubba]

Gordon pitching the 8th inning against the Sox........

me with Gordon pitching against the sox in the 8th.....................

[jimmykey2]

I'll just wait for the stats guys to let you know the answer to that. You do remember what he did (or didn't do) in the post season, right?

The Yankees won the 2004 and 2005 AL East Division titles by a combined 3 games. That MIGHT have had something to do with having one of baseball's top setup men. Flash had ERA+ of 204 ('04) and 173 ('05). Just for comparison's sake, here are some other AL pitchers...


Huston Street... ('05) - 261
Mike Timlin... ('04) - 118, ('05) - 197
K-Rod... ('04) - 252, ('05) - 157
Mariano Rivera... ('04) - 231, ('05) - 323
Scot Shields... ('04) - 138, ('05) - 152
B.J. Ryan... ('04) - 210, ('05) - 170
Joe Nathan... ('04) - 292, ('05) - 163

I realize he still has two years left, but I would have to consider bringing him back. The Yanks need to make the postseason first before they worry about what happens in the playoffs.

[Yankeeah]

I'll just wait for the stats guys to let you know the answer to that. You do remember what he did (or didn't do) in the post season, right?

You say that like Farnsworth is a god in the post season.

[JamieMadrox]

whether or not gordon was good in the postseason, has everybody forgotten that over the past 2 years gordon was probably the best setup man in baseball in the regular season?

you know what, if we have gordon this year instead of farnsworth, i bet we're in first place right now, or maybe a game back tops.

too much flash bashing in this thread!

[AMYanks]

I'm sure George King still thinks Juan Pierre will be the Yankees CFer in 2006. I'll wait and see on this rumor.

[YanksForLife]

me with Gordon pitching against the sox in the 8th.....................

Gordon with Gordon pitching against the sox in the 8th............

[RIyankee]

i'd like a blockbuster including abreu

Abreu is one of my favorite players.

That said, he won't come cheap.

[Hitman23]

You say that like Farnsworth is a god in the post season.

I never said anything about Farnsworth.

[Yankeeah]

I never said anything about Farnsworth.

But you say that Gordon has bad post season numbers. However, so does our current set-up man. For every stat that says Gordon may not be good in the PS, you can have another one that says Farns is a bad PS pitcher.

[JeffWeaverFan]

MattPatt11 is smiling right now about feeling so right.

Bold prediction: Farnsworth will be as good as Gordon in the 2nd half of this season.

[Hitman23]

But you say that Gordon has bad post season numbers. However, so does our current set-up man. For every stat that says Gordon may not be good in the PS, you can have another one that says Farns is a bad PS pitcher.

So you want two of them?

[flymick24]

let's not take george king's BS and run with it please

[JeffWeaverFan]

let's not take george king's BS and run with it please

It's not even BS. It's just nothing. It's just saying that some executives wonder if we will try to get Gordon... I'm sure some executives do wonder that, but there's not a chance in hell it will happen.

Cash is not about to waste prospects on a guy that has 2 more years on his deal after this one when we could have re-signed him but we didn't wnat to give him the 3rd year. Plus, I'm sure Cash has confidence that Dotel will do a good job when he comes back.

[TheBamTino24]

I doubt this will happen. FWIW, I was hoping that NYY would sign both BJ Ryan as the primary setup man and Tom Gordon as a 7th inning type because I didn't think Gordon could handle another full season of the primary guy...especially down the stretch.

Lets see what happens with Octavio Dotel. If he can regain form, that shifts Kyle Farnsworth, Scott Proctor and Ron Villone into secondary roles.

Plus, if you are going to take Bobby Abreu AND Tom Gordon, what are we sending back? If Brian Cashman ever did this without giving up Robinson Cano, Chien-Ming Wang, Philip Hughes or Melky Cabrera, I'd be shocked. I guess taking their contracts would go a long way, however. And yes, I added Cabrera to my "untouchable" list. He's shown me a lot for only 21 years old and maybe at the ripe old age of 25 he can take over for Johnny Damon.

[dabomb2045]

me with Gordon pitching against the sox in the 8th.....................

Me anytime Farnsworth enters a game

[CallOfTheCrow]

I doubt this will happen. FWIW, I was hoping that NYY would sign both BJ Ryan as the primary setup man and Tom Gordon as a 7th inning type because I didn't think Gordon could handle another full season of the primary guy...especially down the stretch.

Lets see what happens with Octavio Dotel. If he can regain form, that shifts Kyle Farnsworth, Scott Proctor and Ron Villone into secondary roles.

Plus, if you are going to take Bobby Abreu AND Tom Gordon, what are we sending back? If Brian Cashman ever did this without giving up Robinson Cano, Chien-Ming Wang, Philip Hughes or Melky Cabrera, I'd be shocked. I guess taking their contracts would go a long way, however. And yes, I added Cabrera to my "untouchable" list. He's shown me a lot for only 21 years old and maybe at the ripe old age of 25 he can take over for Johnny Damon.

Even if the Yanks signed Ryan to be the primary setup man, there is not a chance in Hell that Gordon would have re-signed as a 7th inning guy. He wanted to close, it's what he desired. He would never accept that demotion.