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    Baseball Prospectus keeps daily tabs on teams' chances of making the playoffs. Discuss that in in this thread.



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    Based on my own biases, instincts and observations (hereafter known as 'my opinion' ), I'm betting that the playoff scenario for 2006 will be:

    AL EAST: Sox
    AL CENTRAL: Other Sox
    AL WEST: Rangers
    AL WILDCARD: Tigons...or the Ligers

    NL EAST: Mets
    NL CENTRAL: Reds
    NL WEST: Dodgers
    NL WILDCARD: Cards

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    AL EAST: Red Sox
    AL CENT: White Sox
    AL WEST: Athletics
    AL WILD: Tigers

    ALDS Matchups: White Sox vs. Athletics, Tigers vs. Red Sox

    NL EAST: Mets
    NL CENT: Cardinals
    NL WEST: Padres
    NL WILD: Dodgers

    NLDS Matchups: Mets vs. Dodgers, Cardinals vs. Padres.


    As much as I hate to say it, the Yankees are due to miss the playoffs one of these years, and this may be the one, considering all of the injuries they're dealing with. I'm hoping that they'll prove me wrong.

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    AL EAST: Red Sox
    AL CENT: White Sox
    AL WEST: Athletics
    AL WILD: Tigers


    NL EAST: Mets
    NL CENT: Cardinals
    NL WEST: Giants
    NL WILD: Astros
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    Al East:Yankees
    AL Central:Tigers
    West:A's
    Wild: White Sox

    NL East:Mets
    Central:Cards
    West:Giants
    Wildcard:Astros

    Yankees vs. Tigers Yankees in 4
    White Sox vs. A's: White Sox in 3
    Yankees vs. White Sox: White sox in 6

    Mets vs. Astros: Mets in 3
    Cards vs the Giants:Cards in 3
    Mets Vs. The cards: Mets in 5

    Mets vs. The White Sox: White Sox in 5

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    Yankees win the series, they will turn this thing around -- hopefully.

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    I'd be willing to put $1 on the O's .

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    East: Sox
    Central: Sox
    West: A's
    WC: Yankees

    Red Sox vs. A's - Red Sox in 4
    White Sox vs. Yankees - White Sox in 4
    White Sox vs. Red Sox - White Sox in 5

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    East: Mets
    Central: Cardinals
    West: Dodgers
    WC: Reds

    Mets vs. Reds - Mets in 5
    Cardinals vs. Dodgers - Dodgers in 4
    Mets vs. Dodgers - Mets in 6

    White Sox vs. Mets - Mets in 7
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    I think it's very interesting to see the Rangers has a heavy favorite to win the AL West despite the fact that the Rangers are 1.5 behind and Oakland is a solid second half team.

    I guess that's because the Rangers have (apparently) played the toughest schedule in baseball so far. But still...

    AL East: Yankees
    AL Central: White Sox
    AL West: Athletics
    AL WC: Tigers

    NL East: Hahaha
    NL Central: Cardinals
    NL West: Dodgers
    NL WC: Padres

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    The Sox have gotten lucky - their pythagorean record doesn't translate into winning the division.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stupid Flanders
    The Sox have gotten lucky - their pythagorean record doesn't translate into winning the division.
    Why don't you wake Pythagorous up - maybe I'll drill him the ass!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stupid Flanders
    The Sox have gotten lucky - their pythagorean record doesn't translate into winning the division.
    92 pythag wins for us, 95 for you. What exactly does translate into winning the division? It's not like your pythag record is much better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stupid Flanders
    The Sox have gotten lucky - their pythagorean record doesn't translate into winning the division.
    The Yankees consistently outperformed their pythag record during the Torre era.
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    AL East - Red Sox
    AL Central - Tigers
    AL West - Rangers
    AL Wild - Yankees
    Yankees vs. Tigers (ALDS), Tigers win in five.
    Red Sox vs. Rangers (ALDS), Rangers win in seven.
    Tigers vs. Rangers (ALCS), Tigers win in four

    NL East - Take a meticulous look at the stats. Then, take a guess.
    NL Central - Reds
    NL West - Padres
    NL Wild - Dodgers
    Dodgers vs. Mets (NLDS), Mets win in six.
    Reds vs. Padres (NLDS), Padres win in six.
    Mets vs. Padres (NLCS), Mets win in five.

    Mets vs. Tigers, either team wins in seven.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stupid Flanders
    The Sox have gotten lucky - their pythagorean record doesn't translate into winning the division.
    Yet I'd rather be "lucky" and keep winning games, than being "unlucky" and losing. Do you think they would take away a division title because their pythagorean record wasn't as good as another team?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stupid Flanders
    The Sox have gotten lucky - their pythagorean record doesn't translate into winning the division.
    For a whole season it doesn't. But from this point forward it does. If you take their expected winning % for the games remaining, plus the wins they already have, they come with 96.1 wins, to 94.7 for the yanks. Not that a) that's a big difference, or b) either team is likely to do exactly what the pythagorean formula predicts, but to the extent they've gotten lucky so far, that could be enough to carry them if neither team is lucky or unlucky the rest of the way. (Of course, the yanks may get even fewer games out of Sheff and Matsui in the second half than in the first, which would make the formula invalid for us anyway).

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    Win the AL East. End of story.
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    Re: The Premature, Yet Official Postseason Odds Thread

    AL East: Red Sox
    AL Central: ChiSox
    AL West: Oakland
    AL Wild Card: Detroit

    NL East: Mets
    NL Central: St Louis
    NL West: Padres
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    AL East: Red Sox
    AL Central: ChiSox
    AL West: Oakland
    AL Wild Card: Papelbon

    NL East: Mets
    NL Central: St Louis
    NL West: Red Sox
    NL Wild Card: Dodgers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam18
    AL East: Red Sox
    AL Wild Card: Papelbon
    I wonder who would win in the ALCS Papelbon vs the Red Sox
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    Quote Originally Posted by marietta_soxfan
    I wonder who would win in the ALCS Papelbon vs the Red Sox
    Papelbon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam18
    AL East: Red Sox
    AL Central: ChiSox
    AL West: Oakland
    AL Wild Card: Papelbon

    NL East: Mets
    NL Central: St Louis
    NL West: Red Sox
    NL Wild Card: Dodgers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam18
    Papelbon.
    OK, but what about Papelbon vs. Dit-ka???
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    Quote Originally Posted by burke615-RSN
    OK, but what about Papelbon vs. Dit-ka???
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    AL East: Red Sox
    AL Central: Red Sox
    AL West: Red Sox
    AL Wild Card: Red Sox

    NL East: Red Sox
    NL Central: Red Sox
    NL West: Red Sox
    NL Wild Card: Red Sox
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    I don't know man, with that slup, the Red Sox might beat out the Cards

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    Quote Originally Posted by burke615-RSN
    OK, but what about Papelbon vs. Dit-ka???
    Papelbon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDPNYY
    AL East: Red Sox
    AL Central: Red Sox
    AL West: Red Sox
    AL Wild Card: Red Sox

    NL East: Red Sox
    NL Central: Red SoxSt Louis
    NL West: Red Sox
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam18
    AL East: Red Sox
    AL Central: ChiSox
    AL West: Oakland
    AL Wild Card: Papelbon

    NL East: Mets
    NL Central: St Louis
    NL West: Red Sox
    NL Wild Card: Dodgers
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    NL East: Red Sox

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mezmerize
    No contest here... Dit-ka!
    My friend, is that the little Dit-ka or a regular Dit-ka?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mezmerize
    No contest here... Dit-ka!
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    AL East: Yankees
    Central: Tigers
    West: Angels
    WC: Red Sox

    Red Sox @ Tigers: Red Sox in 5
    Angels @ Yankees: Yankees in 3
    Red Sox @ Yankees: Yankees in 7

    NL East: Mets
    Central: Reds
    West: Padres
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bro Jackhammer
    Based on my own biases, instincts and observations (hereafter known as 'my opinion' ), I'm betting that the playoff scenario for 2006 will be:

    AL EAST: Sox
    AL CENTRAL: Other Sox
    AL WEST: Rangers
    AL WILDCARD: Tigons...or the Ligers

    NL EAST: Mets
    NL CENTRAL: Reds
    NL WEST: Dodgers
    NL WILDCARD: Cards
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    Re: The Premature, Yet Official Postseason Odds Thread

    According to the postseason odds the Yankees now have a better chance than the Red Sox. All biases aside I see The Yankees winning the AL East, the Tigets winning the central, and one of the Sox taking the wild card.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gobrowns
    Thanks man...I really hope the reds make it to the post season...I hate the cardinals and tony"choke"larussa
    Yeah..I can understand your hate considering the Reds have been the drudge of the NL Central for ages.

    Yeah..the Reds have a shot ..just kidding. The Reds will find a way to choke..they always do.

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    Nothing better than seeing a Cardinals fan talking smack to a Reds fan on a Yankees message board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bern51
    Nothing better than seeing a Cardinals fan talking smack to a Reds fan on a Yankees message board.
    it's all about diversity....

    Plus..every guy has to have an AL team, right...mine happens to be the Yankees.
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    Re: The Premature, Yet Official Postseason Odds Thread

    A few things that jumped out at me from the postseason numbers as of today:

    1. Blue Jays still only at 17% to make the playoffs despite only being 4 games back. Not surprising when ou look at them only having 25 home games remaining, though.

    2. White Sox still most likely to take the AL Wild Card. Twins surprisingly only at 13% despite being the hottest team in baseball.

    3. Sox have a 50-40 edge over Yanks for the division.

    I know these numbers mean nothings, but some of them are interesting noetheless.
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    AL:

    EAST: Yankees
    CENTRAL: Tigers
    WEST: Angels
    WC: Red Sox

    NL:

    Does it really matter?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GraniteYankee
    AL:

    EAST: Yankees
    CENTRAL: Tigers
    WEST: Angels
    WC: Red Sox

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    Does it really matter?
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    Whoever wants to see the odds of each team making the playoffs, please see link below:

    http://www.coolstandings.com/baseball_standings.asp?i=1

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    Re: The Premature, Yet Official Postseason Odds Thread

    do these odds take into account that boston is known to fold like a lawn chair come late august early september?

    ill go with

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    Quote Originally Posted by ny
    do these odds take into account that boston is known to fold like a lawn chair come late august early september?

    ill go with

    yanks again
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    You honestly think Boston won't make the playoffs? Come on, that's a damn good team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21ONeill21
    You honestly think Boston won't make the playoffs? Come on, that's a damn good team.
    the sox wont be able to hold us off to win the division so that leaves the wildcard and i think the twins or the white sox will wind up with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ny
    the sox wont be able to hold us off to win the division so that leaves the wildcard and i think the twins or the white sox will wind up with that.
    I honestly think it's more likely for us to win the wild card than the division. Look at the daily sim projections, Yankees and Red Sox are both predicted to win more games than the Twins and White Sox. I think this might be the year of ALCS Round 3 (which I wouldn't mind, I enjoyed the 2003 ALCS immensely...2004 was just an abomination).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ny
    do these odds take into account that boston is known to fold like a lawn chair come late august early september?
    Of course, that hasn't happened in any of the last three years, but don't let that stop you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleSam
    Of course, that hasn't happened in any of the last three years, but don't let that stop you.
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    Re: The Premature, Yet Official Postseason Odds Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by UncleSam
    Of course, that hasn't happened in any of the last three years, but don't let that stop you.
    the fact that the sox had a 3.5 game lead last september 12 tells me it did happen.
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