That's ironic considering they're the ones taking it up the ass.Originally Posted by Archer1979
That's ironic considering they're the ones taking it up the ass.
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??? Thats what I was basically asking for. What did you get from it?
For all that they're doing, they deserve a courtesy-reacharound.
Yet, we are only 7-6 against the NL East....and every game is a dogfight. These NL East teams arent even putting up a fight against Boston.
Jesus Montero since June 1 (286 at-bats):
.325/.386/.605/.991
July 1 (182 at-bats):
.348/.417/.658/1.075
We've been playing terribly. Period. You're going to struggle to beat even the Royals if you have 17, 14 and 12 LOB like we did vs. the Braves.
We're damn lucky to be the team with the 4th best record in the AL.
EDIT: It's hard to put up a good fight when you're 8 down in the 3rd. Teams aren't rolling over for the RS, they have been playing very, very well and they've been healthy.
What did you think about during your time on the DL? Winning. - Mo, 9/20/06
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Damn you, Stinky Sox fan! I just laughed so hard that I snorted.
A coward is incapable of exhibiting love; it is the prerogative of the brave.
-- Mahatma Gandhi
You said you expected it here and I said no sh*t you're at nyyfans.
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Wow, did anyone else hear Pedro's postgame comments? He basically said that losing the game wasn't as important to him as the reception he got, and that he'd won "his game" (the fans cheering him).
I can't imagine that will go over well with his teammates...
I'm a girl.
Sox/Pats fan.
Wow -- I know there was an error, but Pedro still kind of looked like he "threw" the game a little. I kind of wanted us to get him when he was a FA instead of trading for RJ, but if that's true, thank god!
UM... waiting for football
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That's what the Mets fans sitting next to me tonight were saying.
Who am I rooting for???
Oh, definitely the Mets. I hate the Sox
Did he really say that?!?
Red Sox fans wanted Yankees fans to be upset by Damon's early season responses to the media about the Sox, but this is one of the most self-centered remarks I have ever heard from an athlete. If I were a Mets fan, these comments would be unforgiveable for me.
Especially in the context of the whipping received by his teammates.
With all the things that came out of Pedros mouth tonight, it was best that the Yanks never signed him when he was a free agent. Geez, how can he say that losing a game tonight wasn't as important as the reception he got. What a slap in a the face for the team that he is now pitching for
Or... maybe the Sox are a good team that's playing as well as they're capable right now, and the Yankees, depleted as they are, just aren't a good team so they're losing to the teams the Sox are manhandling...
Just a thought...
That's not really what he said. I don't remember the "his game" line, but if he said it then it's out of context here. He said that it was his fault for not having his best stuff, and that he's going to work the rest of the season to make it up to his team. Then he said that, despite that , he was very happy about his reception and would remember it for a long time. That's far different from saying that he would have chosen to loose in order to get cheered.
edit: ok, looking at it again he did say "i'm not dissapointed," which isn't really appropriate. Still, he really seems to be saying it more as "this was still a great life experience for me personally" than "this is what I would have chosen." Not exactly the smartest thing to say, but watching it it just doesn't seem to me like he's throwing the mets under a bus, so much as just admitting that he screwed up but mentioning the positives too.
No, you're wrong. The Mets handing the Sox the series is just a small part of a vast, league-wide conspiracy to somehow deprive the Yankees of their god-given right: Another World Series title.
Thats disgraceful...and gives more credence to my theory of him basically giving this game away. What a douchebag.
If I was a Mets player of a fan, I'd be pissed off at this guy.
Jesus Montero since June 1 (286 at-bats):
.325/.386/.605/.991
July 1 (182 at-bats):
.348/.417/.658/1.075
So you dont think the Yankees are a good team? Maybe the Sox are playing over their heads in a hot streak, and the Yankees are in a cold streak?
Pedro said he's happier than he would be if he won and they jeered him.
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Teams dont make errors like dropping flyballs against the Yanks....they take away base hits.
Jesus Montero since June 1 (286 at-bats):
.325/.386/.605/.991
July 1 (182 at-bats):
.348/.417/.658/1.075
I don't think he was throwing his team under the bus, it just sounded like, to him, the reception he got was the really important thing. I by NO means think he pitched poorly on purpose.
I'm a girl.
Sox/Pats fan.
His comments made him sound like he didn't care about winning as much as he did about being loved by the boston fans.
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Agreed. If I was a Mets teammates, I'd have a HUGE problem with that.
Jesus Montero since June 1 (286 at-bats):
.325/.386/.605/.991
July 1 (182 at-bats):
.348/.417/.658/1.075
Mets.
I didnt expect them to bend over the way they've been doing thus far. I expected an actual series.
theyd rather get swept. cant help the yankees. seriously pedro today was borderline disgrace. wasnt in the game at all. that play on the ortiz comebacker was a joke. of course he didnt pitch bad on purpose, in the sense that he wasnt thinking "i hope the red sox score 6 runs off me in 3 innings" but his head wasnt in the game at all.
if mets fans were actually mets fans instead of just yankee haters, theyd probbaly be pissed that pedro didnt show up at all today and was content with losing. they should just hope they dont face the red sox in the world series. the sox fans will give pedro a standing ovation in game 1 and he wont be able to pitch.
funny thing yesterday. Mets fans.... they amaze me. Spoke to 4 different Mets fans who all felt the same way. in a nutshell....
Me: "stupid Mets."
Met fan: "I was happy with the Mets losing because it hurt the Yankees".
Me: "You're okay with the Mets losing because it hurt the Yankees?"
Met fan: "Philly lost both games so the Mets gained a half game."
Me: "But the Mets lost, aren't they the team you root for?"
Mets fan: "yeah but it's okay because it keeps the Yanks out 3 1/2 games"
Me: "Don't you want your team to win every game?"
Mets fan: "yes, unless it hurts the Yankees"
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"Even though sometimes I can really be a monster... today, I'm just a sea monster."
Based on what?
Are you claiming the LF Wall had nothing to do with that play? Perhaps the RS have an advantage at Fenway and they're a better team than the NL-weak Mets. Just a thought.
What did you think about during your time on the DL? Winning. - Mo, 9/20/06
IT'S THE PITCHING, STUPID!
This attitude actually makes sense when your lead in the division is so big that losing games really doesn't matter, and even more so when the team trailing you gets swept in a doubleheader. The Mets are basically a lock to make the playoffs at this point, so now Met fans can root for the Yankees to miss the postseason.funny thing yesterday. Mets fans.... they amaze me. Spoke to 4 different Mets fans who all felt the same way. in a nutshell....
Me: "stupid Mets."
Met fan: "I was happy with the Mets losing because it hurt the Yankees".
Me: "You're okay with the Mets losing because it hurt the Yankees?"
Met fan: "Philly lost both games so the Mets gained a half game."
Me: "But the Mets lost, aren't they the team you root for?"
Mets fan: "yeah but it's okay because it keeps the Yanks out 3 1/2 games"
Me: "Don't you want your team to win every game?"
Mets fan: "yes, unless it hurts the Yankees"
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9/4/18 - 10/27/04
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I'm sorry but being okay with your team losing in order to hurt a team that has nothing to do with where you are in the standings, simply stated, is f*cking retarded. The only time the Mets should be worried about hurting the Yanks is this weekend. Period. It's a terrible attitude to have.
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"Even though sometimes I can really be a monster... today, I'm just a sea monster."
Bingo.
Are you crazy? The Mets are fortunate to have a big enough lead that losing a couple of games doesn't hurt them. This is a perfectly understandable attitude because a Met loss hurts the Yankees more than it does the Mets.
You make it sound like the Mets have this attitude as a team. Remember, it's the fans attitude.
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And it's a terrible attitude. It's another reason why the idea that the Mets fans enjoy seeing the Yanks lose more then their own team win is not far from the truth on a fairly large percentage of the fanbase.
I don't care how big a lead they have. Don't take it for granted. Things can change.
I'm sorry, but I don't care enough about where the Mets stand, I want the Yankees to win. What the Mets do only matters if they're playing an AL East team.
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"Even though sometimes I can really be a monster... today, I'm just a sea monster."
The comments I heard from Pedro were "I dont even think a win would have meant as much as the cheers from the crowd".
That's being an ambassador to the game in a place where Dominican flags waved for almost a decade and any teammate that takes offense to that is just plain short-sighted.
Pedro filled Fenway and pretty much every park he pitched in while he was in Boston, whats so bad about tipping the thanks back to the fans? Isnt that kind of what we look for more players to do?
Oh wait, right, Pedro's a diva, its bad, bad!
Wow. I guess Mets fans are a different breed. I stand corrected.funny thing yesterday. Mets fans.... they amaze me. Spoke to 4 different Mets fans who all felt the same way. in a nutshell....
Me: "stupid Mets."
Met fan: "I was happy with the Mets losing because it hurt the Yankees".
Me: "You're okay with the Mets losing because it hurt the Yankees?"
Met fan: "Philly lost both games so the Mets gained a half game."
Me: "But the Mets lost, aren't they the team you root for?"
Mets fan: "yeah but it's okay because it keeps the Yanks out 3 1/2 games"
Me: "Don't you want your team to win every game?"
Mets fan: "yes, unless it hurts the Yankees"
Yay, baseball!
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Whatever. ................ the Mets. It would make my weekend if Mets fans and their "plan" backfired and the Yanks swept 'em.
It's not a terrible attitude and it's a perfectly reasonable fall back position after a loss. Plus, those Mets fans probably know that it gets under your skin.
In reality, it's just a no-lose situation for Mets fans. If they win, great. It's a good win against a good team. If they lose, fine. It hurts the Yankees.
The Curse
9/4/18 - 10/27/04
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This isn't even a fabrication of any kind. It's an actual conversation I had with a Mets fan during a poker game last night. Agreed on by at least 3 others. And these aren't bandwagon Mets fans. They know their sh*t and have been fans for a long time. I'm just amazed by it. And confused.
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"Even though sometimes I can really be a monster... today, I'm just a sea monster."
So they're okay with their ace falling apart and getting shelled? They're okay with their phenom outfielder making another huge error? As long as the Yanks lost?
c'mon, it's sad, really. But whatever man. You feel how you feel.
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"Even though sometimes I can really be a monster... today, I'm just a sea monster."
Yup. I said in another thread that the Mets fans care more about the Yankees losing than they do about the Mets winning and was told that it wasn't true.
You would think with the season they're having they'd be more focused on the winning. They haven't been this good in quite a while. Enjoy it!! This fascination for the Yankees is just confusing. I don't get it.
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"Even though sometimes I can really be a monster... today, I'm just a sea monster."
No, I doubt they're okay with those developments and they didn't say that in the conversation you referenced. They're only okay with the Mets losing because it hurts the Yankees. If you told me they went into the game rooting for the Mets to lose solely to hurt the Yankees, then I'd think it's bizarre.
However, the only thing I get out of that conversation is that, given the luxury of the big lead and the Phillies losing, they're not that bothered by losing the game since it hurts the Yankees. I don't know why that's such a difficult concept.
The Curse
9/4/18 - 10/27/04
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I get the concept. But it's a dumb f*cking concept.
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"Even though sometimes I can really be a monster... today, I'm just a sea monster."
Please show me the Met fans who are sitting around saying, "I hope we lose. I hope we lose." All they're saying is that it's a nice consolation when losing hurts the Yankees. It lessens the blow. Perfectly understandable.
The team is focused on winning and the fans are certainly enjoying it. Frankly, they want the best of both worlds and that means the Yankees missing the playoffs.
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9/4/18 - 10/27/04
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The only thing I get out of that conversation is that that Met fan was intentionally enjoying pushing Hitman23's buttons!
Because what the Yankees do should mean nothing to them. I take no joy out of seeing the Yanks lose. None, whatsoever. You can try and justify this all you want, but it's just dumb.
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"Even though sometimes I can really be a monster... today, I'm just a sea monster."
No, they didn't push my buttons. They made me laugh. Yankee fans justifying this thinking, that's another story.The only thing I get out of that conversation is that that Met fan was intentionally enjoying pushing Hitman23's buttons!
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"Even though sometimes I can really be a monster... today, I'm just a sea monster."
Exactly. With that big of a lead you can worry about whatever you want. Heck, the fewer innings Pedro pitches, the better. It'll keep him fresher for the postseason. When you've got a 12 gmae lead in June, it's just not that big of a deal to lose a game or two. Nor is it a big deal if your rookie outfielder misses a couple of balls in a park that he probably won't see again unless it's in a World Series. Seriously, the Mets main focus the rest of the way should be to keep everyone healthy and be ready and focused when the playoffs roll around.The only thing I get out of that conversation is that that Met fan was intentionally enjoying pushing Hitman23's buttons!
The Curse
9/4/18 - 10/27/04
Don't act like you've been there before. Act like you can't wait to go back.
If the Yanks had clinched the division and lost a game to a team that was leading the Red Sox in the wild card race and probably keep them out of the playoffs, wouldn't you feel a little better about the result?
The Mets fans are not joyful that the Mets lost. They simply find the loss a little easier to swallow because it hurts the Yankees.
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9/4/18 - 10/27/04
Don't act like you've been there before. Act like you can't wait to go back.
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