Possibility of Non-Tenders Filling Roles (merged)

[Galapagos]

I don't know what he ultimately will sign for, but players at his age will generally be starting their negotiations from what they were previously paid.

Well, he won't get that. He got $2.8 million in arbitration after a pretty good year. Now, after a horrendous year, he's being non-tendered. He's not going to get $2.8. I'd offer him $1.5 million.

[longtimeyankeefan]

Well, he won't get that. He got $2.8 million in arbitration after a pretty good year. Now, after a horrendous year, he's being non-tendered. He's not going to get $2.8. I'd offer him $1.5 million.

IMO, he is not worth $1.5M. I would offer him no more than $1M with incentives based on PA.

[Galapagos]

IMO, he is not worth $1.5M. I would offer him no more than $1M with incentives based on PA.

If it takes 500k to get Bubba Crosby out of CF, I'm not going to sweat it.

[BigBats]

If Patterson were available, I'd scoff him up immediately.

[Spiker101]

.239, .266, .284, .329, .320, .254. Guess what those numbers are? Patterson's OBP's the first 6 years of his career (though the .239 was 11 games in 2001.) That's a .293 OBP for his career. That's not even close to good. Yes, a change of scenery might help him, and yes, there is a chance he comes here and does good. He plays good defense, but he is so inconsistent and impatient at the plate. I would only make a move on him if we had no other options besides Bubba.

This is academic because they are going to tender him, but Patterson is the kind of guy you scarf up in a second if some team gets tired of a player's act and dumps him to save money. He was brought up to the majors at 21 with the can't miss label . At the time he was a top five prospect. They rushed him and apparently he put too much pressure on himself or the coaching didn't click or he's simply uncoachable. You take a chance that a change of scenery will do the trick. He's never going to have a good on-base guy, think Soriano, but if he figures it out, he'll hit 30-40 homers while playing a terrific centerfield. If he doesn't you're out a little bit of money, that's all. I would imagine also he's probably got an option or two left, which is probably what he really needs. Anyway, he certainly has more upside than Jeremy Reed, who's going to cost the Yanks something substantial.

[Mark19]

Hopefully tuesday will see us put a few more guys on our Christmas list. There are a few interesting names who could be available soon.

[MTYankee23]

Can Gerut play Centerfield?

[Yankeeah]

Can Gerut play Centerfield?

He's played 26 games there, which is the least he has played (mostly as RF), but I think he'd be able to do it.

[MTYankee23]

Whatever happened with Jeff DaVanon?

[BJG]

His contract is relevant in that his agent will certainly use it as a benchmark to try to start contract negotiations. He won't necessarily get the dollars, but he will use the number as a starting point.

If his team thought his current contract was a good starting point, he probably would have been tendered a contract.

[I Love Wang]

If his team thought his current contract was a good starting point, he probably would have been tendered a contract.

I should have thought of that. Damn.

[mbn007]

Of all the guys listed above by all the posters, Gary Matthews Jr. makes the most sense, if he is non-tendered. That said, I doubt Texas lets him walk for nothing. But he would be the cheapest, and most reliable defensive OF out there.

And maybe he can hit a bit, although I am not sure he will outhit Bubba if both played a full season.

[MTYankee23]

Of all the guys listed above by all the posters, Gary Matthews Jr. makes the most sense, if he is non-tendered. That said, I doubt Texas lets him walk for nothing. But he would be the cheapest, and most reliable defensive OF out there.

And maybe he can hit a bit, although I am not sure he will outhit Bubba if both played a full season.

If they're both available/non-tendered, I'd like to see a platoon of Jeff DaVanon and Jody Gerut.

[JavyVazquezIsSick]

Of all the guys listed above by all the posters, Gary Matthews Jr. makes the most sense, if he is non-tendered. That said, I doubt Texas lets him walk for nothing. But he would be the cheapest, and most reliable defensive OF out there.

And maybe he can hit a bit, although I am not sure he will outhit Bubba if both played a full season.

Gary Matthews is one of the more injury prone players in the game. His defense is solid but his offense is average to below average, if we can get him for near nothing as well as having a backup for when he does down, it would be a good move...

[nhyankeefan]

It looks like Wade Miller will be non-tendered. I'd like to see the Yanks sign him to a minor league or even a similar contract that the Sox signed him to last year. I know it's a long shot that he will return to his prior form but it's a risk worth taking for small money.

http://www.boston.com/sports/basebal...act/?page=full

[BeantownYankee]

Philly paper thinks Endy Chavez will be non tendered.

"Don't be surprised if the Phillies let Chavez go. The Phillies like Shane Victorino as their fifth outfielder, and Chavez was unremarkable in his time with the Phillies last season."

If he could resort to his 2004 Montreal form he may not be a bad pickup.

http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/sports/13445455.htm

[mbn007]

Philly paper thinks Endy Chavez will be non tendered.

"Don't be surprised if the Phillies let Chavez go. The Phillies like Shane Victorino as their fifth outfielder, and Chavez was unremarkable in his time with the Phillies last season."

If he could resort to his 2004 Montreal form he may not be a bad pickup.

http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/sports/13445455.htm

If this happens, Philly is not tradingMichaels.

[NYDCYankee]

Today is decision day.

[Kulish29]

What's the deadline to tender a contract to a player?

[ieddyi]

What's the deadline to tender a contract to a player?

midnight tonight

Let's stay up all night and have a non tender party lol

[nyyanksfan20]

midnight tonight

Let's stay up all night and have a non tender party lol

I hope Cashman is.

[BJG]

If this happens, Philly is not tradingMichaels.

The reason to move Michaels is to get more at bats for Shane Victorino, so I don't think Chavez matters one way or the other to them.

[BJG]

I hope Cashman is.

Up to the moment that they aren't tendered, it would be tampering to have discussed any of these players with their agents. Just as with any other free agent situation, it would seem unlikely that a player is going to jump at the very first offer or make a decision about the next year of their life in only a matter of hours.

Patience.

[DJ27]

Up to the moment that they aren't tendered, it would be tampering to have discussed any of these players with their agents. Just as with any other free agent situation, it would seem unlikely that a player is going to jump at the very first offer or make a decision about the next year of their life in only a matter of hours.

Patience.

You are right... tomorrow we can start up on these rumors!!

[I Love Wang]

The reason to move Michaels is to get more at bats for Shane Victorino, so I don't think Chavez matters one way or the other to them.

The reason to get Michaels is to bring back pitching, which they lack. They don't lack outfielders, so they'll trade one. Plus, they like Victorino.

[Snatch Catch]

It looks like Wade Miller will be non-tendered. I'd like to see the Yanks sign him to a minor league or even a similar contract that the Sox signed him to last year. I know it's a long shot that he will return to his prior form but it's a risk worth taking for small money.

http://www.boston.com/sports/basebal...act/?page=full

Ugh. Please, no.

[DJ27]

Ugh. Please, no.

Agreed... no need to take on that risk.

[JeffWeaverFan]

Ugh. Please, no.

I wouldn't mind it for pure depth reasons. I see so many injury risks with our starting rotation that I don't think we can have too many starters. Saying that, I wouldn't want him on the team unless there were some guys on the DL and we needed him to pitch some innings.

[DJ27]

I wouldn't mind it for pure depth reasons. I see so many injury risks with our starting rotation that I don't think we can have too many starters. Saying that, I wouldn't want him on the team unless there were some guys on the DL and we needed him to pitch some innings.

We have AAA guys to fill those needs. Don't need another injury risk on our staff.

[JeffWeaverFan]

We have AAA guys to fill those needs. Don't need another injury risk on our staff.

Well, I would only give him a minor league deal anyways and I doubt he would accept that.

DeSalvo, Henn, and DePaula are the 3 guys that come to mind that can start for us if injuries occur. Am I missing anyone?

[I Love Wang]

If Miller would accept a AAA assignment, I'd sign him.

Taylor, I don't know if you'd include him, but I think Karstens would be a candidate to start as well.

[BeantownYankee]

Agreed... no need to take on that risk.

funny how this was viewed as an great move by theo & co last year

[JeffWeaverFan]

If Miller would accept a AAA assignment, I'd sign him.

Taylor, I don't know if you'd include him, but I think Karstens would be a candidate to start as well.

He's a candidate. I don't know how high on the list he'd be though. Will he start this year in Columbus?

[I Love Wang]

He's a candidate. I don't know how high on the list he'd be though. Will he start this year in Columbus?

I have to assume he will. There's no reason to keep him at Trenton.

[ieddyi]

funny how this was viewed as an great move by theo & co last year

Along with Renteria, Mantei , Blaine Neal and Clement. Looking back at it, their offseason looks good only in relation to our terrible singings

[Spiker101]

Come on, any team that has Wayne Franklin on its 40-man roster can afford to take a run at Wade Miller. Sign him for peanuts, put him on the 60-day and hope.

[Mark19]

So far, non-tenders for today include:

SP Dewon Brazleton
C David Ross
C Pete LaForest
RP Craig Breslow

Cubs and Marlins announced that they wouldn't be non-tendering anyone

[Yankeeah]

Didn't Brazleton get lost going to Yankee Stadium one time and showed up real late?

[TheGameEpisode2]

Patterson will be tendered a contract, so you can scratch him out. (Unless you trade him for next to nothing after the horrible season he had.)

http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/NASApp/m...=.jsp&c_id=chc

[ryanthe13th]

Have we offered Small and Chacon a contract yet?

[Mark19]

SP Ramon Ortiz and P Joe Valentine were just non-tendered.


Joe Borowski was also DFA'd



update:

Wade Miller and Chad Bradford were also DFA'd

updateL

Twins reliever Grant Balfour was non-tendered

[flymick24]

SP Ramon Ortiz and P Joe Valentine were just non-tendered.


Joe Borowski was also DFA'd



update:

Wade Miller and Chad Bradford were also DFA'd

updateL

Twins reliever Grant Balfour was non-tendered

none of those names are eye-catching... if miller is willing to accept a minor league assignment, then maybe the yankees should take a chance, but otherwise, pass

[ryanthe13th]

Borowski looks intriguing. If he comes cheap I don't see the problem adding a solid righty to the pen instead of Proctor or Sturtze.

[YankeePride1967]

SP Ramon Ortiz and P Joe Valentine were just non-tendered.


Joe Borowski was also DFA'd



update:

Wade Miller and Chad Bradford were also DFA'd

updateL

Twins reliever Grant Balfour was non-tendered

Wade Miller. LOL The Wade Miller that Sox fans were salivating over and calling Theo a genius. Hey, only $1.5 million thrown away!

[flymick24]

Borowski looks intriguing. If he comes cheap I don't see the problem adding a solid righty to the pen instead of Proctor or Sturtze.

i don't see how borowski v.2 would be any better than borowski v.1

[Tifoso]

i don't see how borowski v.2 would be any better than borowski v.1

It is the same Borowoski that pitched 2 innings in 1998 (or something like that), then. (Only reason I know is that I spent something like 4 years trying to get his card to finish my 1998 Yanks collection)

[ryanthe13th]

i don't see how borowski v.2 would be any better than borowski v.1

Borowski has pitched a total of 9 games as a Yankee.

[BomberBrian]

do you realize the devil rays just traded brazelton to the padres for sean burroughs and the padres aren't even keeping him?

[BJG]

do you realize the devil rays just traded brazelton to the padres for sean burroughs and the padres aren't even keeping him?

Alderson indicated when the trade went down that a) they would have non-tendered Burroughs and b) if they couldn't work out a deal with Brazelton, they'd non-tender him. Not a surprise.

[ieddyi]

do you realize the devil rays just traded brazelton to the padres for sean burroughs and the padres aren't even keeping him?

They're prolly going to work out a deal with him at a reduced cost