Braden Looper is not going to be offered arbitration by the mets so he would not cost a draft pick.
Could he fit the bill as the 6-7th inning man on the yankees, and possible insurance for farnsworth? I know hes not ur lights out guy but he is still very good and shouldn't be totally ignored.
Not a bad idea, but if we add Myers, and keep Proctor up here, I don't see him fitting.
Check out his numbers against righties they are pretty sick. If the Yanks can get a quality LOOGY and sign Looper they can turn every game into 6 innings and then Looper/LOOGY then Farnsworth then Mo. Of course Looper will most likely get more money to close for a small market team.
I would prefer him to Julian Tavarez
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Don't we have a thread on Looper already?
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as he would not be the primary set up man, I wouldn't mind.
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I love that Idea..
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Since it doesnt look like the Mets won't be offereing Looper abirtration (rotoworld) it might not be a bad idea ot pick him up. I like the idea of Looper back in a setup role or middle relief.
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There are a lot of teams that need a closer and some of these teams are not bad options;among them:
1)San Diego-If they don't re-sign Trevor Hoffman
2)Cleveland-If they miss out on Trevor Hoffman
3)Pittsburgh
4)Florida
5)KC
6)Baltimore
7)Arizona
8)Cincinnati
IMO,Looper will be closing for one of these teams.
he is not great but good. He seems to be a nice guy, he never complains about his role and accept responsibility
I'd trust him more than Farnsworth I think...
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He would be decent as a 7th inning guy.
hes tall, young, has experience, can get one or two guys out, i like it, the bullpenn looks awful. And only if joe never uses him against a lefty, ever, especially not ortiz.
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Farnsworth has more upside and younger. They are thinking if farnsworth is good or very good then he can be the yankees future closer.
I'd rather Rudy Seanez.
“I mean, people knew that Brown was out there, and that Randy was ornery all the time. And Pavano is whoever he is. But if you’re their manager, you can’t go out and write about them like that.”
Rudy Seanez would be the better choice. Especially since Looper's NY experience was less than enjoyable for him
Hmm, I thought they wanted that for JB Cox, oh well.
I think he's viewed more as a setup man in the majors.
Looper can close else where. I don't think he'd accept such a drastic role change to sign with the Yankees.
Maybe but maybe he wants to win and not just to close and would be willing to be a setup kind of guy. You never know.
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Looper could be a terrific pickup and I believe he's younger than Tavarez as well. I'd love to have him.
And it would bug the Mets, which is an additional fringe benefit.
All the Mets fans I know would laugh in my face if we acquired Looper. I know several that would gladly pay his subway fare uptown if he'd promise not to pitch for the Mets again.
Since when do we care about bugging the Mets, anyway?
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He wouldn't even be a main set up guy. He'd be a 7th inning guy, and I think that is why we picked up Sturtze's option. The Yankees can't expect free agents like Looper to want to take such a drastic role change.
EDIT: in 2005, Looper blew 8 saves for the Mets.
you cant jsut hand a guy a position he has to earn it so the better of the 2 will get the job when mo retires if there both still around
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Looper stunk it up for the Mets. He might as well have had more wins than saves as it seemed that whenever I caught him pitching he'd blow his save opportunity.
I love the idea of having Looper. Look, he was decent, not great, decent as Mets closer. He had a bad year but was plaugued by some nagging stuff. Nothing to worry about, but last year (04) he was pretty good.
And let's face it, We have out primary setup man and closer, we'd ask him to be number 3 in the pecking order. I can think of worse things. I'd rather have him out there in the 7th than Sturtze. He has already played in NY for two years, so there is a familiarity with the city and the press, and again, he was not the second coming but he was not half bad when healthy. I'd take a shot, he is better than what we have and we would not have to give up anything, I like the idea..
throw him against the wall for the right price.
I know, I just think he's more of a head case than Looper.
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Hey, we need all the relievers we can get. If the Yanks get the reliever who pitch to LH and RH batters, than get all the LOOGY's and ROOGY's you can find.
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rotoworld reports loopers as close to signing with the phils.. which wouldnt be as their closer.. maybe the yankeess should look into him a bit more
Unless the Phillies are lavishing an exorbitant (Howry/Eyre-like) contract on him, it is absolutely mind-boggling that the Yankees would prefer to keep Sturtze than go with Looper. (This could also help kill that Sturtze+ for Michaels rumor)
until he officially signs with the phills he's still available.
heck just sign tavarez and get it over with already but not at boras's price tag.
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Rotoworld reporting Looper got a 3 year deal with the Cardinals.until he officially signs with the phills he's still available.
heck just sign tavarez and get it over with already but not at boras's price tag.
he's going back to the team that drafted him... isn't that cute
3 years, 13.5M tells me that fond memories had little to do with it.
I think we can forget about Tavarez or Seanez. 3 year deals for relievers is BAD BAD BAD news
Man, the Cardinals seem desperate. Overpaying Rincon and Looper?
well, considering that they haven't done anything this off-season and the talent left on the market is thin, i can understand their desperation
Sounds like another team I know that's only made minor improvements and still has two or three serious holes left.
Dammit, I wanted Looper...
Calmer than you are.
For 3 years?
Sure, but not for 13.5....
Calmer than you are.
he's probably sick of NYC anyways
Looper got that? Good grief.
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well, farnsworth + myers is far superior than looper + rincon
Looper agreed to a deal with the Cards if I read the scrolling ESPN bottom line correctly....
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For the most part it is because they're so hit and miss with their performances.
That is an atrocious deal for the Cardinals. Look at the decline he had from 2004 to 2005:
His K/9 in 2004 was 6.48. In 2005 it was 4.10. His K/BB in 2004 was 3.75. In 2005 it was 1.23. His G/F ratio in 2004 was 2.70. In 2005 it was 1.79.
“I mean, people knew that Brown was out there, and that Randy was ornery all the time. And Pavano is whoever he is. But if you’re their manager, you can’t go out and write about them like that.”
Seanez has been pretty consistent when he's healthy. Of course, that seems to be a rarity with him.
“I mean, people knew that Brown was out there, and that Randy was ornery all the time. And Pavano is whoever he is. But if you’re their manager, you can’t go out and write about them like that.”
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