http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051128/...da_deadly_kiss
SAGUENAY, Quebec - A 15-year-old girl with a peanut allergy died after kissing her boyfriend, who had just eaten a peanut butter snack, hospital officials said Monday.
That's a hell of a way to go.
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That's very scary. 2 of my son's closest friends have peanut allergies. They are both pretty severe. Most people don't understand the severity of these kinds of allergies. But being her boyfriend, he shoud have known better than to eat a peanut snack in her presence.
Sad.
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That's really scary. My oldest niece has a peanut allergy so my sister and brother-in-law don't buy or eat anything with peanuts in it. It's amazing how many things she can't eat becuase they may contain traces of peanuts (like plain M & Ms) or peanut oil in them.
How sad, and very scarey. This means I can never date a guy who likes sesame. I once ended up on hospital from eating veggies dipped in sesame oil.
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Very sad. Eternal rest...
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Yeesh... talk about a kiss of death!
Funny thing is, I never knew I was allergic to hazel nuts until my allergist told me. I've been eating them for as long as I can remember. I have no clue what -- if any -- reaction I have to them.
You may have a very mild allergy to them, although nuts usually prove to be more dangerous than other allergies. it's possible you developed an allergy to them later on, seeing as you have eaten them with no reaction.Originally Posted by penfold
Also, I'm told other allergies can affect the outcome of allergy tests.
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Guess this makes my thread from a while back look more ignorant. (I just threw myself under the bus).
How sad. He must feel awful.
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Wow. That's really sad.
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One of my best friends is a camp counselor. One of the kids had a SERIOUS peanut allergy. The mom sent in all this information, the kid carried an epi pen, etc. One day they break out their lunches, and the kid has a PEANUT BUTTER AND JELLY SANDWICH. Apparently, Mom gave the wrong sandwich to each kid, and the PBJ was supposed to go to the daughter.
The next week, the kid gets in trouble for biting someone (kids), so my man Will brings him into his office to wait for his mom to come pick him up. While they wait, Will suggests they eat some lunch. The kid opens up his lunch, and its... a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. Mom, apparently, is pretty forgetful.
My friend has a severe peanut allergy, he has to carry an epipen shot around with him at all times incase his throat closes
i work in a preschool and we are not allowed to have any kind of peanuts in the whole school. its the same way in another preschool i used to work at.
My name is Tracy and I am a female
So the whole school "suffers" because of one kid? How is that fair?
The peanut snack was still in his mouth?
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There must have been some peanut reminance in his mouth.The peanut snack was still in his mouth?
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It's fair because it's not worth having a child die so another can eat peanuts (or peanut butter, etc)
I have a Nursery School. It's serious stuff.
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This is one of the oddest stories I've heard in a while. Wow.
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The slightest hint of peanuts (dust, remains... whatever) can set this off.
No peanuts on airplanes anymore.
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Yup. That's the reason.
I have some food allergies (shellfish, some fruits & a few veggies), and it's amazing how little it takes to set off a major attack. And the thing with food-based allergy attacks is that they get more intense and physically threatening every subsequent one you have.
This isn't something to be trifled with. I can tell you from personal experience it's a scary thing, and for some it's clearly a matter of life and death.
Just think how her boyfriend is feeling right now...
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I just on CNN that the # of children allergic to peanut products has doubled in the last 10 years and that 150 people a year die in the US because of different food allergies.
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How can it be considered suffering if they can't have peanuts in school?
If it can pose that much of a danger to a child with such an allergy, I'll gladly make my kids abstain until they are home if it will keep even one child safe.
Maybe people either need to become a parent or suffer an allergy before they can understand the gravity of this sort of thing.
Watch someone you love have an allergic reaction, and then we'll talk.
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That's terrible and much too young of an age to die.
I always wondered why peanuts on planes disappeared. On recent flights I've been on they have had Chex Mix, chips, and cookies.
how insane is this?? I cant imagine how badly that kid must be feeling right now
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That is one of the most f'ed up things I've ever heard.
That family shouldn't even have peanut products in the house, nevermind peanut butter.
When my son used to have the 2 kids over frequently who were allergic, I stopped buying any snacks with nuts and hid the peanut butter in the back of the cabinet so no one could grab it by accident.
One of the kids allergies is so bad that he could have a reaction just breathing the smell in.
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I honestly think people need to be educated on food allergies, especially now that there are increasing cases.
I chalk it up to people just not knowing enough about them. Before my son met those 2 kids (and I got friendly with their mothers), I really had no interaction with any kind of serious food allergy and was just as in the dark as most other people. I only know now because I have dealt with it through my son's friends.
The scariest thing was having one of the kids over for the first time in Kindergarten (they are in 4th grade now). I told his mom (who later became one of my best friends) that I was uncomfortable and afraid he was going to get a hold of something he shouldn't, even though I was careful.
She said she trusted me and handed me his EpiPen and told me if I needed to use it, I had to jab it in his leg and I had 15 minutes to get him to the hospital. IT IS SCARY!!
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Honestly, when I was a little kid, I NEVER heard of anyone who was that allergic to peanuts. I knew someone who was very allergic to milk and a couple people were very allergic to beestings. What's the reason behind this sudden increase in people who have peanut allergies? And why are so many people so VIOLENTLY allergic?
There's a theory that mercury/thimerosol in vaccines has increased the number of autistic kids. Is the same thing behind peanut allergies or is it something else?
Just curious.....
I have wondered the same thing. When I was growing up, I knew ONE kid who was allergic to anything, and he was allergic to EVERYTHING it seemed.
I also wonder why there is such an increase in the amount of people who have athsma. My kids don't have it, but they have several friends that do.
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I've heard that there is some disputing of the way this actually went down. I think some think that he unintentionally gave her something to eat that had peanut content...
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I have a 6yr old cousin that falls into the topmost level of peanut allergies. She carries the epi-pen around, wears a silver medical braclet, can't eat anything that contains even the slightest trace of peanuts and other assorted nuts/seeds without having a reaction. She can't even use shampoos or lotions that have certain nut oils in them. Nor can she go to certain places, like a professional sporting event, because the level of peanut dust in the air is enough to set off a reaction. Once my mother gave her a kiss on the forehead and she broke out in a cluster of hives where my mother had kissed her. My mother had eaten a peanutbutter cracker hours earlier that day, but enough of a trace remained on her lips to cause a reaction in my cousin. That's how severe these allergies can be. So it doesn't surprise me that this girl died. So sad though.
As to why these allergies are becoming more and more common, no one knows. The immune system is extremely complicated and still largely a mystery. The current school of thought is that the rise in peanut allergies is two fold: we've created a cleanier enviornment than at any other time in human history. This has become quite the double edged sword. On one hand, we get sick less often and die less frequently of viruses. But on the other hand, this has given our immune system nothing to fight. Immune systems are not supposed to be idle, so they appear to find things to fight.
This is where the second aspect of peanut comes in. The use of peanut and nut oils in products has risen astronomically in recent years. These oils are cheap and easy to produce. And now they are everywhere.
So we have a bored immune system, just itching to have something to fight, and we have peanut/nut products everywhere. So the body decides to fight off peanut/nut allergens. And we get the situation we have today. Likely there is also some sort of underlying genetic component to this condition, but that has yet to be elucidated.
So it was not the peanut butter after all.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11659935/
A 15-year-old girl with a peanut allergy did not die from kissing her boyfriend following his snack of peanut butter, a Quebec coroner said Friday, countering a report that drew international attention last year.
Saguenay coroner Michel Miron said Christina Desforges died from another cause. However, he refused to disclose that, saying he first wanted to report to the provincial coroner’s office as well as examine more test results.
Wow, I wonder what it could be. If it wasn't disclosed could it be that maybe it was drugs and they didn't want that to leak out?
Interesting. I wonder if they will ever release the real cause?
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whatever the cause is, this is a sad situation.
Blame Canada.
Evolution doesn't really work that way. Essentially, what you're describing is evolution in reverse. That doesn't exactly happen.
However, I think that the fact that we're exposed to more and more peanut products now than ever before has something serious to do with it. People often have more and more serious reactions to allergens as their exposure increases.
To use bees as an example, someone who is allergic to bee stings may have a moderately more severe reaction to their first sting than your normal, non-allergic person. But their 2nd, 3rd, 4th stings may prove more and more severe, eventually to the point that another sting will be life-threatening. If it didn't work this way, we would never know anyone was life-threateningly (yeah, I made that word up) allergic to anything because they would die the first time it happened.
What happens immunologically in these cases is the same thing that happens with normal invaders - viruses, bacteria, protozoa, whatever. The first time the body is invaded, the immune system has little defense against it. The invader takes its effect (you get sick, you get a fever...or in the case of peanuts, maybe nothing at all happens) and the body eventually recognizes it as foreign and dangerous and makes antibodies. The next time the body is invaded by that same pathogen/allergen, antibodies already exist. It is quickly identified and attacked - you get less severally ill or you don't get ill at all. In the case of a peanut allergy, this quick response is what kills you.
So, hoping that made some sense, I believe it IS the excess of peanut products that's causing the problem. I don't think this is some sort of genetic shift within the population at all - this is a change within particular individuals due to an environmental problem.
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Actually what I was describing in very brief detail was the hygiene hypothesis, which basically states that we might be too clean for our own good. It was first put forth in an article in the NEJM back in 1992 (http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/extract/347/12/930) and has since generated a lot of talk/debate in certain circles, especially those concerned with asthma and environmental toxins. A pubmed seach of the term gives hundreds of articles if anyone else cares to explore this more (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...arch&DB=pubmed).
The genetic component I was refering to is the fact that our immune system is largely deteremined by genetics. However, exactly how the immune system functions is about as clear as a glass of mud. The advances in the field in recent years have been extraordinary, but there is still so much more to be figured out. It is clear that individual polymorphisms in the known genetic components of the immune system bring forth differential responses to similar pathogens. It is extremely likely that people that suffer from peanut allergies have some underlying predisposition to them as these people are also significantly more likely to suffer from asthma.
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