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    Vazquez for Pavano...would that work?

    Just speculating here, but Javy Vazquez wants to go back to the east coast, and Pavano is miserable in New York. If a straight up deal were ever possible, would you flip Pavano to the D-Backs and take a second chance on Javy?
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    Re: Vazquez for Pavano...would that work?

    I would. The Yankees and the D-Backs wouldn't.

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    I'd do it in a heartbeat


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    Re: Vazquez for Pavano...would that work?

    I think I would. I wanted to keep Javy the first go-round.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wang's Groundballs
    I would. The Yankees and the D-Backs wouldn't.
    Yep, unfortunately.

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    Re: Vazquez for Pavano...would that work?

    I'd rather have Rowand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bernie Inferno
    I'd rather have Rowand.
    Philly won't trade him.

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    Re: Vazquez for Pavano...would that work?

    Quote Originally Posted by DontHateOnNumber2
    I think I would. I wanted to keep Javy the first go-round.
    I completely agree.
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    I'd rather have Pavano than Vazquez. I think Javy is a mess right now. He's had 2 really bad seasons in a row, and for $10 mill, I want no part of that.

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    Re: Vazquez for Pavano...would that work?

    Hell yeah I'd do that. But its not happening.
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    Re: Vazquez for Pavano...would that work?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bernie Inferno
    I'd rather have Rowand.
    Sorry we missed that boat


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    Re: Vazquez for Pavano...would that work?

    Quote Originally Posted by surge511
    I'd rather have Pavano than Vazquez. I think Javy is a mess right now. He's had 2 really bad seasons in a row, and for $10 mill, I want no part of that.
    Javy have only 1 and half bad season and last season he pitched on a hitter friendly park. I would like to have a pitcher who wants to pitch for you than a pitcher who does not want.

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    How soon we forget....Game 7 anyone?
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    Re: Vazquez for Pavano...would that work?

    Javy Vazquez would be great if we only played an 81 game season.

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    I won't do this deal.

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    Why would Javy wanna come back here? (to NY)

    Other than the east coast thing. I mean, NY is probably the last place on the East Coast he'd wanna be.
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    Re: Vazquez for Pavano...would that work?

    Why does everyone want to drop Pavano? He wasn't that bad, in fact, I thought he was consistently average last year. Worth 10 million.....HECK NO, but in free agency you are going to overspend. If healthy, Pavano will give you a chance to win a lot more than not...Lets let him get healthy and pitch. Yeesh...Even Clemens had a bad year his first year in New York.

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    Re: Vazquez for Pavano...would that work?

    What is the fascination with Vazquez, as a testament to how bad a pitcher he is he went BACK to the NL, the NL West for that matter, and still posted an ERA over 4. I dont look at the wins because really he played for the D-Backs but LOOK AT THE ERA. That is not someone you want on the Yanks against the rest of the offensive juggernauts in the AL East.
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    Re: Vazquez for Pavano...would that work?

    Quote Originally Posted by NewEraYanks2527
    What is the fascination with Vazquez, as a testament to how bad a pitcher he is he went BACK to the NL, the NL West for that matter, and still posted an ERA over 4. I dont look at the wins because really he played for the D-Backs but LOOK AT THE ERA. That is not someone you want on the Yanks against the rest of the offensive juggernauts in the AL East.
    IMO Javy and Pavano are in the same boat, but Javy has the higher upside.
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    Re: Vazquez for Pavano...would that work?

    Quote Originally Posted by apalradio
    Just speculating here, but Javy Vazquez wants to go back to the east coast, and Pavano is miserable in New York. If a straight up deal were ever possible, would you flip Pavano to the D-Backs and take a second chance on Javy?
    I would though I can't imagine that Javy would want to come back here after the way he was excoriated by fans and media alike after his last very brief stint.

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    Re: Vazquez for Pavano...would that work?

    Quote Originally Posted by YankeeFan1
    I won't do this deal.
    Ditto.

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    Re: Vazquez for Pavano...would that work?

    Quote Originally Posted by apalradio
    Just speculating here, but Javy Vazquez wants to go back to the east coast, and Pavano is miserable in New York. If a straight up deal were ever possible, would you flip Pavano to the D-Backs and take a second chance on Javy?



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    Re: Vazquez for Pavano...would that work?

    I'd definitely trade Pavano for Vazquez. Vazquez is the better pitcher.

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    Re: Vazquez for Pavano...would that work?

    Quote Originally Posted by yanksphan
    How soon we forget....Game 7 anyone?
    That game was Kevin Brown's mess and coming in with the bases loaded is quite hard to stop the bleeding, especially to a team that was on a roll.

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    Re: Vazquez for Pavano...would that work?

    No, Pavano was pretty good his first few starts, then he got hit with a line drive in an orioles game and a shoulder injury after that and it went downhill from that. When healthy Pavano is a good pitcher. Solid number 3 guy.

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    In a New York second. Javy is better than Pavano any day.
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    no way, both are equally bad though

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    Re: Vazquez for Pavano...would that work?

    Quote Originally Posted by Yankee Clipper
    That game was Kevin Brown's mess and coming in with the bases loaded is quite hard to stop the bleeding, especially to a team that was on a roll.
    I certainly acknowledge it was Brown's mess.

    But Javy gave up the salami - the WORST possible scenario - to Johnny Damon of all people.

    Freakin Aaron Small could have gotten out of that inning with a couple ground balls and just 1 or 2 runs I'd imagine.

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    Re: Vazquez for Pavano...would that work?

    I think it might work. I"m not ready to give up on Pavano, though. Maybe Aaron Small for Javy?

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    Re: Vazquez for Pavano...would that work?

    Quote Originally Posted by gdn
    I think it might work. I"m not ready to give up on Pavano, though. Maybe Aaron Small for Javy?
    Shhhh, Mrs. Aaron Small aka SM, might read this!

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    Re: Vazquez for Pavano...would that work?

    Quote Originally Posted by IncredibleByNature
    Shhhh, Mrs. Aaron Small aka SM, might read this!
    Oh I think he/she is going to be shying away from the baseball forums for a while.

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    Re: Vazquez for Pavano...would that work?

    So this is what we resort to?

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    Re: Vazquez for Pavano...would that work?

    Please Yes, although it would make no sense, our SP is fine...
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    I'd love to have Javy back.

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    Re: Vazquez for Pavano...would that work?

    It's a wash. Both have high ERAs but Javy's BAA is lower because he gives up less singles and doubles, and more gopher balls. Pavano was awful last season, but I like the fact that when he's on he keeps the ball on the ground. Javy, being a right handed fly ball pitcher, really worries me pitching in Yankee stadium.
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    Re: Vazquez for Pavano...would that work?

    Javy wanted to be here. Pavano wants to leave.
    Javy is a work horse. Pavano is injury prone.
    Javy has less time on his contract. Pavano has more.

    I'd do this deal in a heartbeat.

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    Re: Vazquez for Pavano...would that work?

    Javy>Pavano. Always has been. Either way, the DBacks want to get salary relief from this deal, not take on a $30 million contract in Pavano. Pavano will be our chip to get a CFer.
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