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    Cameron traded to Padres for Xavier Nady pending physical

    I saw the headline on ESPN article colomn that says Cameron to Padres is likely. I don't have ESPN insider however, so I could not read the article. Can anyone expand on this? Thanks.

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    Re: Cameron to Padres?

    Quote Originally Posted by surge511
    I saw the headline on ESPN article colomn that says Cameron to Padres is likely. I don't have ESPN insider however, so I could not read the article. Can anyone expand on this? Thanks.
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    The Mets and the Padres are on the verge of a deal that would send Mike Cameron to San Diego, a baseball official told ESPN's Buster Olney on Wednesday.

    Other parts of the prospective deal are not known at this time, but the Mets are looking for middle relief help and the Padres are reportedly willing to discuss reliever Akinori Otsuka, who would be a natural fit in New York.

    The Padres nearly signed Cameron as a free agent after the 2003 season and still have a need for someone to patrol center field at Petco Park
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    Re: Cameron to Padres?

    Otsuka is the guy that the Sox tried to get from the Pads for David Wells. I wonder if this is the first chip to be acquired in a possible Manny deal...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Workhorse
    Otsuka is the guy that the Sox tried to get from the Pads for David Wells. I wonder if this is the first chip to be acquired in a possible Manny deal...
    That's what I was thinking. I can't see how they would be making that deal for any other reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by surge511
    That's what I was thinking. I can't see how they would be making that deal for any other reason.
    My guess is it might be to fill the gaping hole in their bullpen, but we'll see.

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    I heard it on 1050 espn radio that Buster Olney reported it but it's not known who the Mets are getting it.

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    Re: Cameron to Padres?

    Quote Originally Posted by Workhorse
    Otsuka is the guy that the Sox tried to get from the Pads for David Wells. I wonder if this is the first chip to be acquired in a possible Manny deal...
    I dunno, Cameron was supposed to be in the Manny deal as well.
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    Re: Cameron to Padres?

    Quote Originally Posted by surge511
    That's what I was thinking. I can't see how they would be making that deal for any other reason.
    I hope so. The sooner Manny gets off the Sox the better

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    Maybe Cameron will be then moved for Wells and replace Damon for the Sox? Who knows?
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    Isn't it possible that the Mets are just looking for bullpen help? Lord knows they need it.
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    it doesn't make sense for them to be trading cameron just for otsuka... they get easily get much more value for him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterNovember
    Isn't it possible that the Mets are just looking for bullpen help? Lord knows they need it.
    What team doesn't?

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    Re: Cameron to Padres?

    Quote Originally Posted by flymick24
    it doesn't make sense for them to be trading cameron just for otsuka... they get easily get much more value for him.
    The article just speculates that Otsuka would be part of the deal. They would get more.

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    Re: Cameron to Padres?

    Well there WAS that 3 way with TB that was rumored last week. So it could theoretically be a deal like:
    Mets get Manny
    Boston gets Otsuka and Huff
    TB gets Milledge/Heilman

    No idea if there's any chance for that, but there's a few different ways that the Mets could theoretically spin Otsuka around. Presuming they don't just get him to help their own bullpen. Because signing Wagner/Ryan, a secondary arm like Gordon, Looper, Eyre, or Tavarez and adding Otsuka pretty much builds a bullpen right there.

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    If the Padres got Cameron, would that take them out of the Giles sweepstakes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyLopez
    Well there WAS that 3 way with TB that was rumored last week. So it could theoretically be a deal like:
    Mets get Manny
    Boston gets Otsuka and Huff
    TB gets Milledge/Heilman

    No idea if there's any chance for that, but there's a few different ways that the Mets could theoretically spin Otsuka around. Presuming they don't just get him to help their own bullpen. Because signing Wagner/Ryan, a secondary arm like Gordon, Looper, Eyre, or Tavarez and adding Otsuka pretty much builds a bullpen right there.
    I would think that the Sox would rather have Heilman and Milledge than Otsuka and Huff.

    This might not have any relation to the Manny trade. Unless negotiations are pretty advanced with the Mets, I'm not sure if they would make the trade in anticipation of a trade with Boston. I think if the Mets want to sign Wagner/Ryan and trade for Delgado, they have to clear up some salary - and this trade will help them towards doing that. Plus they get relief help at the same time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by njdhockey
    If the Padres got Cameron, would that take them out of the Giles sweepstakes?
    In light of Matsui's deal, the Padres are already out of the Giles sweepstakes unless he stays for way less money than he will command on the market.
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    Re: Cameron to Padres?

    Kay just mentioned the Mets traded Cameron and got Nady.
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    Re: Cameron to Padres?

    Quote Originally Posted by terminator
    I would think that the Sox would rather have Heilman and Milledge than Otsuka and Huff.

    This might not have any relation to the Manny trade. Unless negotiations are pretty advanced with the Mets, I'm not sure if they would make the trade in anticipation of a trade with Boston. I think if the Mets want to sign Wagner/Ryan and trade for Delgado, they have to clear up some salary - and this trade will help them towards doing that. Plus they get relief help at the same time.
    Yeah, maybe. I was just going off of that rumor from last week that had Boston getting Huff and Baez.

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    Any link yet?
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    Re: Cameron to Padres?

    Bad deal for the Mets.

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    Re: Cameron to Padres?

    Just Xavier Nady?

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    Hmmmm, Cameron to Padres? Boy I wish he would return to the American League. But the Padres for sure could use him.
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    Re: Cameron to Padres?

    Quote Originally Posted by apolansk
    Just Xavier Nady?
    Thats all that has been reported on the radio so far.
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    The Mets have agreed to trade Mike Cameron to the Padres for outfielder/first baseman Xavier Nady, a person familiar with the situation said today, with San Diego awaiting the result of a physical to check Cameron's eyesight in the wake of his last season's damaging collision with Carlos Beltran.

    The righthanded-hitting Nady, 27, batted .261 with 13 home runs and 43 RBIs in 326 at-bats for the Padres in 2005.
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    Done deal pending Cameron's eye exam...

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    The Mets have agreed to trade Mike Cameron to the Padres for outfielder/first baseman Xavier Nady, according to people familiar with the situation, with San Diego awaiting the result of a physical to check Cameron's eyesight in the wake of last season's horrifying collision with Carlos Beltran.

    Nady, who turned 27 on Monday, batted .261 with 13 home runs in 124 games for the Padres this year, and gives the Mets the flexibiity of using him in rightfield or at first base, two areas of need at the moment. The Padres also have agreed to pay all of Cameron's $7-million salary for 2006, which is the final year of his contract. It is likely the deal will not be announced until Friday, which is the earliest the physical can be completed.
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    The Mets just got the shaft.

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    Re: Cameron to Padres?

    Quote Originally Posted by ryanthe13th
    The Mets just got the shaft.
    Well, Cameron's value might be at an all time low. He's coming off a less than stellar year, he's in the last year of his contract, and despite what any of the medical tests might say, the jury will still be out on how he will perform next year.

    Plus, I believe that the main aim of the Mets might have been to dump his salary.
    I don't know much about Nady - anyone have any comments about him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanthe13th
    The Mets just got the shaft.
    Hilarious. San Diego Padres forums (signonsandiego.com) are all saying the Padres got the shaft.

    I think the Mets made out like bandits. Nady was yet another wasted youngster that Bochy didn't give enough playing time (think Jason Bay) and gave up on.

    Watch Nady hit 30HR and 100RBI in New York next year while Cameron Ks 130 times and can't reach the fences in Petco...not to mention the HUGE salary relief the Mets just got.
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    Re: Cameron to Padres?

    Quote Originally Posted by yanksphan
    Hilarious. San Diego Padres forums (signonsandiego.com) are all saying the Padres got the shaft.

    I think the Mets made out like bandits. Nady was yet another wasted youngster that Bochy didn't give enough playing time (think Jason Bay) and gave up on.

    Watch Nady hit 30HR and 100RBI in New York next year while Cameron Ks 130 times and can't reach the fences in Petco...not to mention the HUGE salary relief the Mets just got.
    Or watch them send him to Boston as part of a Manny deal.

    Either way, Nady is all upside. Throw in the salary relief, and I think that the Mets did very well here.

    EDIT: Unless the Mets are still picking up alot of MC's money.
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    Re: Cameron to Padres?

    Eck. I think we could have done better than xavier nady. Cameron would have been nice for us.

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    Nady showed some power this year. I was thinking the Yankees could have got him because like Wilkerson he could play CF/1B if need be. Interesting deal, Nady got moved around alot on the diamond so you have to wonder how that affected his hitting. Dumb trade for the Mets though, they could have gotten alot better for Cameron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yanksphan
    Hilarious. San Diego Padres forums (signonsandiego.com) are all saying the Padres got the shaft.

    I think the Mets made out like bandits. Nady was yet another wasted youngster that Bochy didn't give enough playing time (think Jason Bay) and gave up on.

    Watch Nady hit 30HR and 100RBI in New York next year while Cameron Ks 130 times and can't reach the fences in Petco...not to mention the HUGE salary relief the Mets just got.
    I don't know if his numbers will be that high, but I think the Mets certainly got the better end of this deal.

    I think Nady is a very solid player.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snatch Catch
    I don't know if his numbers will be that high, but I think the Mets certainly got the better end of this deal.

    I think Nady is a very solid player.
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    Re: Cameron traded to Padres for Xavier Nady pending physical

    i think it's a wash, to be honest. cameron will strike out a ton and his power #s will obviously go down at PETCO, but nady isn't exactly going to a hitter's friendly park in shea either and while he has shown an upside in power, i don't epxect him to make much more of an impact on that team than cameron would have.

    if anything, i think the mets will swing nady for manny.
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    Shea is not exactly a bandbox. I don't see Xavier Nady putting up 30 homers and 100 rbi's in Shea. JMHO.

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    Re: Cameron traded to Padres for Xavier Nady pending physical

    I would think the Mets could get more value for MC.

    Even Nady and Otsuka would be acceptable.

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    Re: Cameron traded to Padres for Xavier Nady pending physical

    Quote Originally Posted by H Reyes
    Shea is not exactly a bandbox. I don't see Xavier Nady putting up 30 homers and 100 rbi's in Shea. JMHO.
    I was just taking a jab at Kevin Towers & Bruce Bochy actually - but who knows what Nady can do when used properly.
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    So who's replacing Cameron on the Mets?
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    Re: Cameron traded to Padres for Xavier Nady pending physical

    I definately could see Nady being swung to Tampa in a Huff deal or to Boston in a Manny deal, or even Florida in a possible Delgado deal. He'll be a Met for a few weeks in the winter joining greats such as David Justice and Joe Randa

    I don't mind this trade that much. Cameron's value did drop from Sheffield in July to Nady in November, but you really have to factor the collision into that.

    Yes, San Diego will pay all the money for Cameron, so the Mets also free up a lot more money to play with which could go toward Manny or Delgado

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    Re: Cameron traded to Padres for Xavier Nady pending physical

    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Empire
    So who's replacing Cameron on the Mets?
    A) Manny Ramirez
    B) Aubrey Huff
    C) Brian Giles
    D) Xavier Nady
    E) Victor Diaz

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    Quote Originally Posted by terminator

    . Unless negotiations are pretty advanced with the Mets, I'm not sure if they would make the trade in anticipation of a trade with Boston. .
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    Does Nady have any Hispanic blood in him? Because that's the only way this moron Minaya makes a deal like this. It makes no sense.

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    This is good for Cameron. He knew he was the better CF bewteen Beltran and him, and got the shaft by the Mets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yanksphan
    Towers is getting ripped to shreds on the radio right now.
    He should get ripped more for the horrendous Brian Lawrence for Vinny Castilla deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ieddyi
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    Touche

    Actually, I had that in my mind when I posted my comments. Considering what happened with Colorado, you would think that no team would make a similar move in the future.

    Obviously, if Larry has signed off on a deal - which noone has heard of at this stage - that changes things.

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    Re: Cameron traded to Padres for Xavier Nady pending physical

    Does this have any impact on Giles staying or leaving SD?
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    Re: Cameron traded to Padres for Xavier Nady pending physical

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooley Womack
    Does Nady have any Hispanic blood in him? Because that's the only way this moron Minaya makes a deal like this. It makes no sense.
    Nady is cheap and although 27, is still 5 years younger than Cameron and entering his prime. The Padres need great defensive OFers and Cameron made it clear he wanted to leave the Mets. Nady was recently considered a very good prospect, although some of the shine is off, I think this was simply a deal of matching needs. Cameron is a good player likely to decline offensively going forward.

    The Red Sox also covet Nady.

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