Lets see what everyone thinks...
C: 115.0 IP, 74 H, 5 HR, 33 BB, 108 K, .181 BAA, .495 OPS, 0.93 WHIP, 1.41 ERA, 0 CG, 0 SHO, 7 W
W: 123.2 IP, 111 H, 3 HR, 23 BB, 92 K, .243 BAA, .612 OPS, 1.08 WHIP, 1.89 ERA, 5 CG, 4 SHO, 13 W
Lets see what everyone thinks...
C: 115.0 IP, 74 H, 5 HR, 33 BB, 108 K, .181 BAA, .495 OPS, 0.93 WHIP, 1.41 ERA, 0 CG, 0 SHO, 7 W
W: 123.2 IP, 111 H, 3 HR, 23 BB, 92 K, .243 BAA, .612 OPS, 1.08 WHIP, 1.89 ERA, 5 CG, 4 SHO, 13 W
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Jaret Wright's 2005 Cy Young Season: 20-3, 3.04 ERA
Time for some new blood. Willis.
Dontrelle Willis. He has the best record & 2nd best ERA, IIRC, out of the NL starters.
If not him, Petey.
Willis but that's a really tough call.
Both are deserving, IMO.
*I did vote for Willis though.
Clemens, his #'s are sick.
Willis, even though I want to see Roger get knocked around again. :-)
I voted Clemens
Clemens has better numbers (I voted for him) but I think they'll give it to Willis.
Part of be wants to see Ol Rog embrassed again, but D-Train is the answer for LaRussa.
Ditto. I think Clemens deserves it, but it'll prolly go to Willis.Originally Posted by rkh5donkey
I'm going to go with Roger. I want him to make up for that disasterous start from last year.
Yeah Dontrelle has more wins, but Roger would have more if his team could score runs.
Roger Clemens should.
How great would it be if he bombed worse than last year?
I think it'd be wonderful.
Roger Clemens by a fairly wide margin, in my opinion. Willis is having a great year, but Clemens' year has been absolutely tremendous, and in a park that's much tougher on pitchers than Willis's is. I think that Pedro Martinez deserves a look, too, or at least a glance. Sure, his ERA is higher than the others, at 2.74, but look at his WHIP. It's at 0.82. That's amazing. If he kept that up, he'd have one of the top 10 WHIP seasons of all time. All things considered, though, I'd go with The Rocket.
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"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." -Joe Morgan
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definetly Clemens...his numbers are just ridiculous...and if he was on a team that had any offense, he would have the same amount (if not more) wins then Willis
Both Clemens and Willis have incredible numbers this year. Roger has a slightly lower ERA and more strikeouts, while Willis has more wins and complete games. If they switched teams I think Clemens would be having an even better year since 1) Houston's offense has hung him out to dry on several occasions and 2) he pitches in a hitter friendly ballpark. It's a close call. I'd give the ball to Clemens, but would have no problem with Willis getting the nod.
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Willis. That's incredible in this era and for only half a season.
I voted for Willis. They both deserve to start because of their great numbers, but it would be nice to have the younger guys getting the nod for the All-Star games.
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I say we stomp him! Then we tattoo him! Then we hang him! And then we kill him!
I say we let him go.
I liked what Clemens did for the NL last year.
Gets the nod, in my book.
Yes, Willis, new blood and all that. Also, I think the complete game thing is a stat that should not be overlooked. I always admire pitchers who can finish a game themselves.
Plus, Clemens crapped the bed in the all star game last year.
“You don’t want to sleep a waking dog.” - Joba Chamberlain
That's actually why I went with Clemens, he's been more consistent. To balance that 5 CG and 4 SO Willis has had 5 games where he's given up 3 or more ER (3 three times, 4 once and 5 once). Clemens has only done it twice (three once and 4 once).
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Clemens should start but won't. I got no problem with Willis starting.
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I also have no problem with either of them starting.
If it were my choice I would give the honor to Clemens... since once again it could be his final season. It's hard to not give the All-Star Game start to the greatest pitcher of the modern era... and who just happens to be having another Cy Young calliber season.
Willis. He's having an incredible season and he's my type of pitcher. Goes deep into ballgames and finishes what he starts pretty often. I wish more guys were like him.
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Dontrelle Willis.
"Don't Give Up...Don't Ever Give Up." - Jimmy Valvano
One must know pain to be a hero.
My opinion is that John Smoltz deserves the NL Start the most, given the fact that he's overcome injuries to go from an All-Star Starter to All-Star Closer and back to All-Star Starter. Plus, Smoltz trusts his stuff more as well as any starter. Clemens blew it last All-Star game and should come on in the 3rd or 4th in relief. Willis is too inexperienced for my liking. I'd have him coming in to face a tough lefty, i.e Ortiz.
The right thing to do would be for the Marlins to trade Willis to the Yankees (for womack) and have him start for the AL team. I dont see any other solution.
Clemens, Clemens, Clemens.... his dominance is unmatched. He is pitching his best season ever and if not for his crappy team, he could possibly have a perfect record and a win in every decision. The most amount of runs he has allowed in any one start is 4 and that has only happened once. At home in a hitters park he has allowed just 17 earned runs and 50 hits in 69 innings (ERA @ home 2.22). Even more impressive is in 46 innings on the road this season he has allowed 1 earned run and 24 hits. 1 EARNED RUN!!!! (ERA away 0.20).
And if thats not enough, he's hitting .281. LOL
The only reason Clemens should not be starting the all-star game is if New York deals for him and he is no longer in the National League.
At least for my generation, Clemens is definitely the best pitcher who's ever taken the mound and for all generations he is arguably the best pitcher in the history of the game. We should all be excited to be able to watch him be the NL starter.
It shouldn't happen based on his numbers, but I'd LOVE to see Petey Martinez face Manny, Papi, Damon, and V-Tek. Willis and Clemens have both been much better than him this year, but if I wanted the NL to win, I'd start Pedro. It's obviously a biased opinion, but just from seeing him mow down the best lineups the AL had to offer year in and year out, I just have that kind of confidence in him.
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It's an exhibition. It's a joy for the fans. How can you not pick a soon to be Hall of Famer who should win the NL Cy Young Award this year?.
ROCKET
ROGER
CLEMENS
Can you truly pick anyone else? I doubt it.
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Yogi is a National Treasure. Let's put him in a National Hall of Fame. The man has no peers.
Tough choice, no doubt, but I give the nod to Willis.
Clemens' season so far not to be ignored, but it's time to 'pass the torch'. Give the 'kid' the recognition he deserves.
I'll go for Willis. We've seen enough of Clemens. I'll even take Pedro as the starter over Clemens.
All I have to say is that BOTH there ERA"s are INSANE!!! I give it to Willis because rocket had it last year and he got smacked around
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I completely agree. Willis gets my vote, although Clemens has some sick numbers.
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D-Train! Woo woo!
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Let the kid start. It will fun to see D-Train.
I heard this today...Did Coltrane actually exist? This is like being blind for 50 years, regaining sight, and then peering directly at the sun.
willis got tagged last night, if clemens had any run support he'd be like 15-1. i think it was willis until last night.
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