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    Derek Lowe. Anyone notice how well he's pitching?

    He's 4-4, BUT with a 3.02 ERA, 47 K's and 14 BB in 65 innings and producing ground balls outs as is his strength. He's been the Dodger's best starter, hands down, despite his .500 record due to lack of run support.

    Kudos to Derek.

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    Re: Derek Lowe. Anyone notice how well he's pitching?

    Yup. Not surprising -- always had talent, came on strong at the end of last year, in a pitchers' park/league and has a better defense behind him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubswin
    Yup. Not surprising -- always had talent, came on strong at the end of last year, in a pitchers' park/league and has a better defense behind him.
    And losing 2-0 as we speak. I've said it a number of times - I wanted him in pinstripes, despite his personal problem. Rather him than Wright.

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    Re: Derek Lowe. Anyone notice how well he's pitching?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooley Womack
    And losing 2-0 as we speak. I've said it a number of times - I wanted him in pinstripes, despite his personal problem. Rather him than Wright.
    I don't have the home/road splits, but I bet he's been helped a lot by Dodger Stadium... he is mostly victimized by doubles being a ground ball pitcher, and that park doesn't surrender many long hits into the gaps.
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    Re: Derek Lowe. Anyone notice how well he's pitching?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooley Womack
    And losing 2-0 as we speak. I've said it a number of times - I wanted him in pinstripes, despite his personal problem. Rather him than Wright.
    NY would have eaten him alive.

    He's a West Coast guy... likes it mellow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archer1979
    NY would have eaten him alive.

    He's a West Coast guy... likes it mellow.
    Yeah, I think he would have had the same problems in NY as in Boston -- but he certainly could have turned it around in either town this year -- just not as likely as in the NL and in LA.

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    Re: Derek Lowe. Anyone notice how well he's pitching?

    Quote Originally Posted by cubswin
    Yeah, I think he would have had the same problems in NY as in Boston -- but he certainly could have turned it around in either town this year -- just not as likely as in the NL and in LA.
    I remember one game when he was a closer and he had just blown a game in Yankee Stadium. I thought he was going to have a nervous breakdown. He's wound real tight in addition to being a bit of a flake.
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    Re: Derek Lowe. Anyone notice how well he's pitching?

    Quote Originally Posted by lem
    I don't have the home/road splits, but I bet he's been helped a lot by Dodger Stadium... he is mostly victimized by doubles being a ground ball pitcher, and that park doesn't surrender many long hits into the gaps.
    #s are much better at home

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    Re: Derek Lowe. Anyone notice how well he's pitching?

    Quote Originally Posted by cubswin
    #s are much better at home
    There you have it.
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    Re: Derek Lowe. Anyone notice how well he's pitching?

    Quote Originally Posted by cubswin
    #s are much better at home
    He deserves some credit, his home ballpark, and NL West play aer a big part of that too

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    Re: Derek Lowe. Anyone notice how well he's pitching?

    Love the fact that he's doing well in LA, and I wish him nothing but the best.

    Having said that, I was quite relieved that the Sox didn't re-sign him in a fit of nostalgia. Before his body was taken over by the ghost of Cy Young last October, he was one of the worst starters in the league for a solid six months, and his career has been on a Zito-like downward spiral for quite some time now.

    Of course, even what Lowe would have brought to the Sox in '05 compares favorably to what David Wells has actually produced for us. So far.
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    Re: Derek Lowe. Anyone notice how well he's pitching?

    He did pretty decently in AZ tonight. 6 inn, 3 ER, 4 K, 1 BB.

    Whether or not he had the disposition or head to play in NY, I always hated facing him, whether he was 13-14 or 16-4.

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    Re: Derek Lowe. Anyone notice how well he's pitching?

    Quote Originally Posted by Babe Rules
    He deserves some credit, his home ballpark, and NL West play aer a big part of that too
    ? never said he doesn't deserve credit

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    Re: Derek Lowe. Anyone notice how well he's pitching?

    Quote Originally Posted by cubswin
    ? never said he doesn't deserve credit
    That post confused me as well but you responded right before I was about to.

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    Re: Derek Lowe. Anyone notice how well he's pitching?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooley Womack
    And losing 2-0 as we speak. I've said it a number of times - I wanted him in pinstripes, despite his personal problem. Rather him than Wright.
    I'm not sure he would have done much better in NY this year than he did in Boston the last. The only advantage he'd have in NY is Yankee stadium being a decent pitcher's park. He's still be pitching to the DH in a high stress environment for those who believe he is a headcase.

    I was fairly certain he'd do well in LA this year. It couldn't be more perfect there for him- warm weather, (somewhat) relaxed environment, no DH, great infield defense, and a park that murders doubles/triples. Plus, Jeff Weaver put it together there last year. Even Jose Lima didn't suck there. Sinkerballers + Dodger Stadium = success.
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    Re: Derek Lowe. Anyone notice how well he's pitching?

    Lowe wouldn't have done well this year in Boston or New York. We both have awful defenses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pedromartinezfan
    Lowe wouldn't have done well this year in Boston or New York. We both have awful defenses.
    The bigger problem for Lowe would have been that both Boston & New York have tougher reporters covering the teams. Out here, it's "Dodgers what? Kobe sucks, man!"

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    Re: Derek Lowe. Anyone notice how well he's pitching?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooley Womack
    He's 4-4, BUT with a 3.02 ERA, 47 K's and 14 BB in 65 innings and producing ground balls outs as is his strength. He's been the Dodger's best starter, hands down, despite his .500 record due to lack of run support.

    Kudos to Derek.
    I wonder who duped Theo into letting him go?

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    Re: Derek Lowe. Anyone notice how well he's pitching?

    This information might be relevant for this thread so I bumped it.

    Derek Lowe started the Dodgers opener today and kinda bombed—he gave up eight runs in five innings. Either before or after the game, he also probably got word that revelations from depositions in his divorce case with Trinka Lowe were to be posted at RonFineman.com, the subscription-only site that last year broke the news of the pitcher's affair with Fox Sports' Dodgers reporter Carolyn Hughes. Depositions taken in Florida are public record, according to Fineman, who says that he attempted multiple times to reach all of the parties before posting the reports tonight. These are among the most noteworthy of Fineman's disclosures, summarized by me unless it's within quotes:
    ♦ Lowe said in his deposition that he suffers from ADD, was provided with Ritalin by a Red Sox doctor and has been given 20 mg daily doses of the stimulant Adderall by the Dodgers' trainer Stan Johnson. The drug was prescribed by team doctor Michael F. Mellman without an exam, says Fineman.

    ♦ Trinka Lowe alleged in her deposition that the pitcher's agent, Scott Boras, suggested an "intervention" to deal with the player's drinking and told her the Red Sox did not re-sign Lowe after the 2004 season because of his alcohol problem. In his deposition, Derek Lowe acknowledged that the Red Sox thought he had a drinking issue but that he disagreed.

    ♦ According to Fineman, Trinka Lowe said the alcohol issue got so bad when Boston was in the playoffs in 2004 that bullpen catcher Dana Lavangie phoned her at home in Fort Meyers, Florida "and told me that I needed to come up to Boston because Derek was falling apart....He was depressed. They had taken him out of the starting rotation. He was in the bullpen. They told him pretty much he wasn't going to touch the baseball for any of the playoffs."

    ♦ Lowe would get drunk last season in the Dodgers clubhouse with clubhouse manager Dave Dickinson, Trinka contends. Dickinson told Fineman "he would drink with Lowe occasionally after games, but not every night. And he also said he did not see Lowe get drunk in the clubhouse." Although Lowe insists that he doesn’t get drunk during the baseball season, he admitted that he still goes to bars after games. Trinka insists that, before they split up, that her hubby regularly drank in the Dodgers clubhouse and would come home drunk after games.

    ♦ Lowe was arrested and got probation after a domestic dispute before they were married, according to Trinka.

    ♦ Lowe gave Hughes a $33,000 Rolex watch.

    ♦ Lowe said he turned down a $45 million deal with the Florida Marlins to take $36 million from the Dodgers before last season.
    Finally, a possibly revealing window into the Dodgers' social structure. In his deposition, Fineman reports, Lowe said that he went out to "team dinners" several times last season, his first in L.A. Asked if all 25 players attended, he said: "No. The American people, white people....We have a lot of Latins, and so I'm saying that the white people, there are probably eight people that went. Jeff Weaver, maybe Brad Penny. People along those lines." I guess Milton Bradley wasn't American enough...

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    Re: Derek Lowe. Anyone notice how well he's pitching?

    Wow. Just wow. Sometimes I think I would prefer to remain ignorant when it comes to things about the players off the field.

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    Re: Derek Lowe. Anyone notice how well he's pitching?

    Quote Originally Posted by yankeebot
    Wow. Just wow. Sometimes I think I would prefer to remain ignorant when it comes to things about the players off the field.
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    Re: Derek Lowe. Anyone notice how well he's pitching?

    Quote Originally Posted by NDBoston
    This information might be relevant for this thread so I bumped it.
    I guess we can put to bed all the criticism of the Sox front office for "smearing" Lowe on his way out of town two years ago. It appears their fears about his private life were well justified.
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    Re: Derek Lowe. Anyone notice how well he's pitching?

    ♦ Lowe said in his deposition that he suffers from ADD, was provided with Ritalin by a Red Sox doctor and has been given 20 mg daily doses of the stimulant Adderall by the Dodgers' trainer Stan Johnson. The drug was prescribed by team doctor Michael F. Mellman without an exam, says Fineman.
    Are they implying that he doesnt have it?

    Rotoworld:
    Derek Lowe has received a "therapeutic exemption" by Major League Baseball to remain on Adderall.
    Lowe takes the medication, which is banned by MLB because it is an amphetamine, to help treat adult attention deficit disorder. He has taken it for the past three years.

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    Re: Derek Lowe. Anyone notice how well he's pitching?

    Quote Originally Posted by Workhorse
    I guess we can put to bed all the criticism of the Sox front office for "smearing" Lowe on his way out of town two years ago. It appears their fears about his private life were well justified.
    A 'No comment' would have sufficed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_coach
    A 'No comment' would have sufficed.fficeffice" />>>
    They didn't say anything publicly.
    In fact, judging from what is coming out the rumors could have come from a variety of sources, including Lowe's ex-wife.

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    Re: Derek Lowe. Anyone notice how well he's pitching?

    Why would he turn down the deal to florida?

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    Re: Derek Lowe. Anyone notice how well he's pitching?

    Quote Originally Posted by yankeebot
    Wow. Just wow. Sometimes I think I would prefer to remain ignorant when it comes to things about the players off the field.
    Ya know...

    I just responded to the thread which quoted Clemens' little "joke" which I found to be racist. At least I can say that Clemens was (apparently) trying to be humorous. That line essentially saying that Americans=whites is wayyyyyyy over the line, imho.

    I know that some people truly are asshats. I just don't think they need publicity, promotions, and huge salaries. I hope his ex gets everything she asks for in the divorce settlement.

    And now I need to go read something uplifting. This stuff is just too much of a downer for me today....

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    Re: Derek Lowe. Anyone notice how well he's pitching?

    Quote Originally Posted by bnorris85
    Why would he turn down the deal to florida?
    Yeah... This puzzles me too. He lives in Florida.
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    Re: Derek Lowe. Anyone notice how well he's pitching?

    Quote Originally Posted by effdamets
    Yeah... This puzzles me too. He lives in Florida.
    You might have just put your finger on it there...

    He lives in FL but if he was hoping to meet other women/have an affair, it's probably easier to do that away from your home base.

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