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    http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?n..._id=7592&rfi=6

    Canseco spins tall tales about his abilities

    Dave Solomon May 09, 2001

    I wonder if Jose Canseco can hear himself talk. I bring this up because Canseco, the larger-than-life Newark Bear, was spitting out conspiracies like they were sunflower seeds Tuesday during the Bridgeport Bluefish 9-8 victory over the Newark Bears in their home opener at the Ballpark at Harbor Yard.

    Did you know that Major League Baseball has a nefarious plot to prevent him from hitting 50-plus home runs this year, stealing 40 bases and patrolling left field like Barry Bonds? Never mind the fact that major-league owners can’t agree on what vowel is used to spell Vanna; yet they’ve bonded like stickem — supposedly at the urging of the Anaheim Angels — to make sure that Canseco doesn’t reach 500 career home runs.
    You ask why? Yours is not to question why.

    Jose said so. That’s why.

    I don’t know if Canseco, 36, has anything left, nor do I know he does not. But if Canseco was half the player he thinks he still is, he’d be in a major-league lineup every day — and at a bargain price, relative to what some of the superstars of baseball are making.

    Canseco, the 1988 American League Most Valuable Player, who once made as much as $5 million in a season, is playing with the Bears for $6,000 a month — which includes the $3,000 maximum salary, plus an additional sum pooled together by the rest of the clubs in the league. Because of his star power, Canseco is the first player the league has ever collectively bought.

    But Canseco said the money is irrelevant ... he’d play for free. He just wants his dignity back and to expose the hooligans who have stolen his chance at immortality. No Hall of Fame eligible player with at least 500 career home runs has failed to be inducted. Right now, he’s stuck on 446.

    I love a good mystery, but Holy Hercule Poirot, how do you solve a mystery that exists only in one’s mind?

    "The rumors have been spread that I’m damaged, and we’re doing an investigation on that," said Canseco, the six-time All-Star who was 0 for 2 (he also reached on an error and walked twice) — and is now 2 for 12 in four games with the Bears. "It probably started with the Angels (the team he was with in spring training). If I am being blackballed, I’d like to know why."

    How should we put this? There’s more evidence of a second shooter from the Grassy Knoll in Dallas than the fact the Angels are telling tales out of school.

    "I don’t think anyone’s ever questioned my ability ... ever. Not even close," Canseco said. "I’m only 36, a very young 36 with a lot of great years in me. Players nowadays have contracts until they’re 42-43 years old. Obviously, the 500 home runs ... I have to reach that. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. That’s something that can be grasped easily, but it can’t be done from down here."

    Canseco said if it takes the whole season with Newark to prove how good he still is, he’s ready to do it. But it’s inconceivable in his mind that some major-league team wouldn’t want "a guy that can hit 50 home runs, who can drive in 130, who can steal 40 bases, who can play outfield for you," he said.

    Never mind the fine print that he’s never hit 50 home runs (46 in 1998 is his best), never hit 130 RBIs (122 in 1991 is his best), stole 40 bases only once in his career, 1988) and plays outfield like a designated hitter, the point is well taken that he was once a great player.

    But since being traded by the Oakland A’s in 1992, Canseco has been with Texas, Boston, back with Oakland, Toronto, Tampa Bay and with the Yankees for 37 games last season. Does that sound like the same franchise player Canseco still envisions of himself?

    If he still thinks he can play at the major-league level, that’s fine, and that’s what the Atlantic League is all about. But some of the stuff coming out of the mouth of this 6-foot-4, 240-pound giant made him seem so small. He couldn’t possibly have listened to himself when he said he runs a 40-yard dash in 4.39 seconds, which is faster than Jerry Rice ever did and is in Deion Sanders’ league.

    "I’m probably the fastest guy my size in the major leagues, and I’ll challenge anyone," Canseco said. "It’s impossible (to be faster at that size). Even guys who are 230 and 220. Even 210. It’s not possible."

    Canseco was presented with the growing perception that his bat speed has slowed to the point he can’t get around on a fastball like he once did.

    "That rumor is just ridiculous and easily disproven," Canseco said. "Let’s do a bat-speed test."

    I felt like running to my car to get my combination car jack/universal bat-speed tester, but I was concerned that the conversation would take a turn to his former flame Madonna. I stayed to listen.

    Now those would have been stories worth the price of exaggeration.

    The others were kind of sad.







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    I'm curious about how small and disconnected the quotes from Canseco are.
    I'm not giving this a whole lot of weight until I hear it again somwhere else.
    It sounds like Canseco may have been simply defending his ability to play in the bigs again and may have answered some questions from the reporter, which needing a story out af indepent league team plucked what he needed.
    I'd like to hear more of the context of what Canseco was saying in the conversation before I pass judgement

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    Man, I hope canseco was misquoted. If not he has realy sliped a few notches mentaly.

    I never am too sure with journalists. These would be pretty defamatory comments though if they were misquoted and Canseco's agent would get rich in court. Anything this baltent would be pretty easy for canseco to confront so we shall see.

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    I respect the New Haven Register Columnist in the article above and have no doubt Jose said what was quoted. I don't think he will make it in the majors anymore, but maybe someone will give him a shot if he performs in Newark? Here's another article on Canseco from the Bridgeport Opener Yesterday:

    http://www.connpost.com/default.asp?...411&article=on

    Canseco circus stops in Bridgeport
    Neill Ostrout column

    BRIDGEPORT -- Long before the 5,084 fans piled into Harbor Yard Tuesday to watch the latest circus hit the city, the main attraction put on a private showing.

    Jose Canseco, in the midst of his quest to prove his value to major league general managers and prove the Atlantic League's value to the rest of the baseball world, made his debut in Bridgeport Tuesday, along with his Newark Bear teammates and the 2001 version of the Bluefish.

    The people who got the best show of the afternoon weren't the fans seated behind the plate. No, the construction workers helping put up the hockey/basketball arena beyond the left-centerfield wall had the best view of the former Bash Brother's ability.

    Batting practice displays are usually measured on the Mark McGwire Scale these days, and Canseco did his former teammate and the other Bash Brother proud, nearly taking out a window on the back of the AHL Sound Tigers' future home. With the fans not yet inside the park, the hard-hat crew had themselves the perfect vantage point as they peered in.

    Apparently in the middle of a late lunch when they took a break to watch the Newark Bears take BP at 2 p.m., the workers got a bit of a scare when one of Jose's drives dented the facade of the brand-new building.

    The shot, which hit the building three stories up and some 430 feet away from home plate, was a great deal more impressive than Canseco's performance in the actual game.

    Jose struck out with a runner on second base in the top of the first. In the bottom of the inning, he turned Angel Espada's hit to left field, which appeared to be a double, into a triple. He finished the game 0-for-3 with two walks, a stolen base and a run scored.

    The underlying purpose of Canseco's eight-city summer tour through the Northeast -- which has opening acts like twin brother Ozzie Canseco, World Series hero Jim Leyritz and ex-Cub Jaime Navarro -- is to showcase himself for another shot at the major leagues.

    It definitely feels like I'm on tour, Canseco said of his media obligations and fan attention. But, hopefully, it validates this league.

    So with 446 big league homers, a 40-40 season, an MVP award and two World Series rings, Canseco still has to sell himself. That's because Canseco believes the Angels, who released him after spring training, have spread rumors that the 36-year-old is injured.

    I don't think anyone's ever questioned my ability, Canseco said. They've just questioned my health.

    Physically, I've gotten faster and stronger. My knowledge of the game has increased. The only reason why I'm down here is because we have to figure out who said what, what was said and why they think I'm damaged goods.

    Canseco wouldn't go so far as to say he was being blackballed -- although he did say he thinks Ozzie, who hit .299 with 48 homers and 129 RBI and 100 runs last season for Newark, is getting that treatment. After hitting nine homers in 61 games with Tampa Bay and six more in limited time with the Yankees last season, Jose Canseco didn't expect to be shunned out of the game. He thought Anaheim might be a nice fit, but the team didn't give him a chance, he says, and let him go.

    When I was released, days went by and nobody called, Canseco said. And if they did call, they wanted to see me play in the minors for a month and a half to see if I was healthy.

    Besides experience and numbers, the other thing Canseco isn't short on is confidence. He claims he runs a 4.39 in the 40-yard dash and is capable of playing the outfield more than 100 games a season (something he hasn't been allowed to do since 1991.)

    Why don't they want a guy who can hit 50 home runs, who can drive in 130, who can steal 40 bases and play outfield for you? Canseco asked. That's unheard of.

    His once $5-million-a-year salary has been reduced to $6,000 a month, but Canseco says that's a non-issue. His chartered plane rides have turned into bus trips, but Jose says he doesn't mind that much, either. Canseco wants to get back to the big leagues because he still loves the game and because he has a milestone in reach.

    I'm only 36. And I'm a very young 36. I've got a lot of years in me, Canseco said. The 500 home runs? I have to reach that. That's one healthy year.

    Until Canseco gets the shot he thinks he deserves, the conspiracy theories -- and the circus -- will go on.

    Neill Ostrout covers minor league baseball. He can reached at 330-6210 or by e-mail at ostrout.connpost@snet.net


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    I've seen the newark Bears Play a few times in the recent past and I have to say that Jose's brother, Ozzie has a better chance at making the bigs. Why do I say this? Ozzie is humble, and he's a pretty good ball player(all things considered) Jose, on the other hand, is a pretty good ballplayer as well- just not as good as HE seems to think he is.This guy's ego is bigger than all of newark itself. Face fact's, Jose- you should be glad to be making six grand a month to play baseball with your brother.

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    Umm, .....yes....

    He did an interview on one of the sports shows last weekend & he came off as delusional about how good he is (IMO)....

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    I respected Jose when he was a Yankee!

    I liked that he had been a Power Hitter with the Oakland A's.

    Im happy that he is with the Newark Bears now.

    As for his interviews about himself. If that makes him feel better and gives him the incentive to go up to the plate the next time with the ability to hit a 500 ft homerun! More Power to HIM! Whatever it takes for that slugging ability whats left to come back!

    Yankees Are Still the Best in the MLB! Better than ALL the Rest!!!!!

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    I think he said he ran a 40-yard dash in 3.9 seconds. NFL wideouts don't run the 40-yard that fast....Randy Moss does it in 4.28, I think

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    Originally posted by ElDuque110
    I think he said he ran a 40-yard dash in 3.9 seconds. NFL wideouts don't run the 40-yard that fast....Randy Moss does it in 4.28, I think
    No, in all fairness, he said he ran it in 4.39 seconds (which I still don't believe). I remember watching him with Jim Rome around 3 weeks ago and even then he sounded like an idiot, going on and on about his fantastic physical condition and how there's this big conspiracy around him. :rolleyes:

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    Jose has an overly inflated opinion of his abilities.
    Yogi is a National Treasure. Let's put him in a National Hall of Fame. The man has no peers.

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    If true he can become an instructor at the Ricky henderson school of etiquete.
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    Report from the Atlantic Independant League

    After 9 games, my hometown club, the Somerset Patriots are leading the South division with a 7-2 record (1 game ahead of 2nd place Camden), with a team BA of .295, 10 HR's and 54 runs scored (6/game average) and a pitching ERA of 2.30

    The Newark Bears are tied with the Nashua club for the lead in the Northern Division with a 6-3 record.

    Ozzie Canseco is hitting .200 with 3 HR's and 6 ribbies and 15 wiffs.

    Jose is better at .233 with 2 HR's and 7 ribbies and only 11 wiffs. In only 9 games.

    The "King" Jim Leyritz is at a lofty .364 with 3 HR's, 7 ribbies and only 5 wiffs.

    As a team the Bears have 13 HR's and 64 runs scored (7/game average) Their pitching has allowed 3.35 Earned runs per game.

    I'll keep you posted but so far the Canseco's are quiet.
    Yogi is a National Treasure. Let's put him in a National Hall of Fame. The man has no peers.

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