To you Sox fans, how do you feel about this season? As pumped up as you were for last year, or are you feeling like it's all good, who cares what happens because you took the chip last year, even if the Yankees go on to win the WS? ( like I expect them to )
Dem ol' grimy Jets...
I want to win every year. It's no different than the Patriots. It gets better every year with them and I expect it would be the same with the Red Sox.
I expect the Red Sox to win multiple championships in the next 10 years. I posted that here last year before the season started. Nothing has changed in my eyes.
I think Yankee Fans can relate to my comment. Once You win it, you want to win it over and over again. As a fan of the sox, and as yankee fans expect ownership to put the most competitive team on the field to compete for a championship.
There is nothing i would like to see more than another parade initiating from Fenway Park. The feeling that i got last October 27th was the greatest feeling in my life, and i hope to experience it again this season.
Mmm! Gravy!
"Who cares"? No -- not at all. However, for me, losing this year would be much easier to take than losing every previous year was. And, to be quite frank, if the Sox lose, but the Yanks don't win -- and preferably don't reach the Series -- then it's really not such a tragedy. This stems not only from winning last year -- though that's the most important factor, by far -- but also from my belief that they really shouldn't win this year. On paper, today, they aren't the best team.
(For example, the year after the Pats won, they didn't make the playoffs. That was disappointing, b/c they came close, but it wasn't the end of the world. Had they lost either of the past 2 years, I would have been rather distraught.)
I agree with that general sentiment, but I'll add that a certain "desperation," for lack of a better word, is gone.Originally Posted by NDBoston
I wouldn't describe this year as gravy, but I think it won't hurt nearly as much if they don't win it all as it has in some past years, particularly 2003.
Mmm! Gravy!
Keep him away from the kids!
This is all uncharted water but I'll give it a shot.
As stated earlier, the desperation is gone. So my guess is that around the trade deadline, you're not going to see any "Hail Mary" trades.
If they're close to a champion-caliber ballclub, they'll go for the deal that puts them over. If they're just trying to make the playoffs with no real shot at the big prize, they'll hold onto their prospects.
There will be some renewed confidence in the stands and in the press, but 86 years of karma is a tough thing to erase from people's psyches.
Most of all, the rivalry with NY will be red-hot. Bigger than any year in baseball history.
Last year was the Year. This year is going to be quite a year!
Cheetos
EDIT: I hate you guys.
I want the Sox to win, period. There is no "gravy" year just because they just won. As ND pointed out, the Patriots haven't lost a step in winning 3 SB in 4 years. I expect the Sox to make the playoffs year in and year out, barring injuries, and have a shot at the World Series. I will not be as devastated if they were to lose because of the fact there is no "curse" to dwell on, even though it never existed.
Any fan of any team that has won ONE championship and is content with that is not like me. That being said, the 2004 Sox I feared in ST, the 2005 version I respect.
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Nah....every year is a new year. I want another title and I'll be unhappy should we not win it this year. It'll be nice not to have to hear and see everything Babe Ruth or 1918 related because the media created curse is now "broken" (Stick it up your a$$ Fox and CHB)
It's nice to know we did win finally and that underperforming and bad management didn't kill us again but it's a new year and I'm gluttonous
The hunger to be World Series Champions is still there for me. It was amazing and great to win last year, but this is 2005 and theres a new season to be played. Anything short of winning the Series is failure, albeit I agree that there is no longer that feeling of desperation. Every loss will hurt just as always and every win will put me in a good mood. Same old same old
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I don't even know why this question keeps getting asked, don't you want the Yankees to win every year? The idea that after years of desperate longing our thirst for victory would be quenched by one World Series is beyond ridiculous. You are talking about people who have lived and died with their team every year why on earth would we stop now, I wouldn't know how to stop even if I wanted to. The edge of desperation is gone but the will to win and love of the game is not.
Yay, baseball!
Female
Let's say that you guys lose the ALCS to the Yankees, would it hurt as much as it did in 03?
Dem ol' grimy Jets...
imo, no. Still hurt, especially if in that sort of fashion, but no, not the same.
I think it would hurt .000001 less than '03. Especially if the win was within our grasp, it burned like fire when the Sox came back to win '04, yeah? It would feel like that.
Yay, baseball!
Female
I agree. A big part of the disappointment/pain in 2003 was because they hadn't won in a lifetime and were so close to getting over the hump. But they are over that hump now.
If they win again, it probably won't feel as good as 2004, but if they lose, it definately won't feel as bad as 2003. JMHO.
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It is what it is but it ain't what you think
I say we stomp him! Then we tattoo him! Then we hang him! And then we kill him!
I say we let him go.
Dead on.
The big frustration in losing is that you hadn't seen them win. That element is gone.
At least until 2090.
Cheetos
EDIT: I hate you guys.
Maybe I am just more competetive than most.
Yay, baseball!
Female
"competitive" as a fan?
Hmmm. Maybe I am waaaaaay more competetive than most?"competitive" as a fan?
Yay, baseball!
Female
Its never a gravy year. Every year that we won, I wanted the next one just as bad.
Not as pumped up as for last season, but still looking forward to it. Do I want them to win again-sure do, but if they don't, it won't hurt like in the past.
I also don't feel the desperation to win because last year was so sweet, and if they don't win, I'll always have my DVD to pop in for a boost.
For me, the Patriots winning multiple times, while it makes me happy, I will never feel the pure joy I did when that kick went through the uprights and they beat the Rams for their first one. That was the best feeling I've ever experienced as a sports fan, even better for me than the Red Sox winning the WS, which I still don't understand, because I thought if the Sox ever won the WS I would never experience anything like it, and I still can't figure out why I feel that way.
Honestly, I'm not feeling terribly gung-ho, but this is not about winning the World Series, it's about the fact that we're fielding a pretty different team, it lacks a few key players, and I don't know what they (the new guys) can do yet. The 2003/2004 teams were far more similar than the 2004/2005 teams. And yeah, for obvious reasons, the 2004 team had a pretty big place in my heart (no, not just because they won, but also because I found them pretty interesting to watch.
But, ask me in a few weeks and I can give you a much better answer.
The year 2005 is not gravy, but 2004 erased all the demons. No matter what happens in 2005, we will not hear the endless taunts of "1918." The opposition will have to become more creative in the barbs they hurl. That part of the dynamic has changed forever. It is also unlikely that we will have to hear the word "choke" associated with all things Red Sox, as has always been the case. Yankee fans can now identify with just how unseemly that word is when it's linked to your team. So I wouldn't say that 2005 is gravy, but no matter what happens, Red Sox fans will not have to endure the same type of humiliating expressions that we've had to during our entire lifetimes, and yes, that part of it is, indeed, gravy. That does not mean that we don't want to continue winning just as badly, as now that we know just how sweet it is to win, we can say from experience that it is better than the alternative.
For as long as the sox are in the running, I will care every bit as much as in previous years, and wins will be as sweet. If they end up losing, though, I'm sure I'll recover more quickly than in 2003. The pain would be there, it just wouldn't drag on for nearly as long. Not that I'm planning to find out for sure...
If we lose it after leading by three runs in the deciding game of the series and a white-hot bullpen raring to go but instead our bonehead inbred cottonbrained manager decides to pat our exhausted spent staff ace on the arm and mumble go get 'em petey and I scream at the television FOR THE LOVE OF GOD NOOOOO GET HIM OUT OF THERE but in he stays and the hits just keep on coming and then some little pissant like Aaron Freaking Boone comes out of his hole and pops a game-winning home run in the bottom of an extra inning that never should have taken place because we had them dammit we HAD THEM...
...if all that happens, then yeah, it'll hurt exactly as much. I'd have to cramp my brain to figure out a way it would hurt MORE.
(Ahem. To answer the original question? Yes, I'm still very much hungry for victory. No, this isn't a gravy year. I think any Yankee fan worth his pinstripes could look back on 2001 and your reaction sure as hell couldn't have been "Darn that Luis Gonzalez! Oh well, we just won three years in a row...I don't mind losing this one." There is NO SUCH THING as a gravy year. Losing sucks. Always. Winning is better. That last part was only a hypothesis in my lifetime until last fall.)
"...it was blood, my blood, and it was coming from the sutures in my ankle. You’re either stupid or bitter if you think otherwise." --Curt Schilling on the Bloody Sock, 3/17/07
Gravy? What a stupid comment. I would hope they would not be content? Imagine if Ruth/Gehrig/Mantle/and Dimaggio had been "content"? From what I hear the Boston Mediots are already all over Damon this year! What a bunch of bumbling, blithering, blathering simpletons! Don't they know they would still be "cursed" had Johnny Damon not played the way he did last year? I have Nightmares of that Neanderthal hitting bombs and stealing bases! Man the Sox and their fans are NEVER happy. Instead of embracing their champions, they are throwing them under the bus already! And RJ has not thrown a pitch yet
*Yes I know all Red Sox Fans are not like this. Just most?
Wow. You know that the Boston media is not representative of the Sox fanbase right? Firstly they are as you mentioned, idiots. Secondly you have to realize that Red Sox Nation includes NH, Maine, Vermont, some of CT and Some of RI...so basing your opinion of Sox fans on a few mediots in Mass is kinda shortsighted. As for your just most comment I would say that it is the opposite, as with Yankee fans it is the few bad apples that spoil the bunchGravy? What a stupid comment. I would hope they would not be content? Imagine if Ruth/Gehrig/Mantle/and Dimaggio had been "content"? From what I hear the Boston Mediots are already all over Damon this year! What a bunch of bumbling, blithering, blathering simpletons! Don't they know they would still be "cursed" had Johnny Damon not played the way he did last year? I have Nightmares of that Neanderthal hitting bombs and stealing bases! Man the Sox and their fans are NEVER happy. Instead of embracing their champions, they are throwing them under the bus already! And RJ has not thrown a pitch yet
*Yes I know all Red Sox Fans are not like this. Just most?
Yay, baseball!
Female
There is no such thing as a gravy year. That kind of thinking is for losers.
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I'm in total agreement with everyone else...this is no gravy year. I want Boston to win it all again. We got a taste of what it was like last year, and I'd for it to become a regular event.
I think the big misconception that Sox fans are generally okay with everything now and don't really care about this year stems from this national perspective (in part spurred on by Shaughnessy) that "Red Sox nation has no idea what do to with itself now".
Well that's not true. Personally, I'd like another championship and I'm going to root for the team to defend its title.
Certainly there are SOME Red Sox fans who feel the way that Shaughnessy has said and those are the ones that the national media have sought out. I am of course, speaking of those unbelievably stupid MLB commercials. Specifically, the Red Sox version with the two broads from Boston sqwauking about how they don't know what to do with themselves now.
Not to go off on a tanget, but God those commercials are dumb. Anyone ever seen the one with the Astros fans??
gotta keep the championships in beantown baby
[QUOTE=TommyK8] No matter what happens in 2005, we will not hear the endless taunts of "1918." The opposition will have to become more creative in the barbs they hurl. QUOTE]
like the red sox fans are with their "Balco" and "yankees suck" chants?
Here in da Bronx, we have other ideas...
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I'm always amused at the people that flay Sox fans for their brainless "Yankees suck" chants. Yeah, it's brainless...but has anyone ever been to a Sox-Yanks game in the Bronx and NOT heard "Boston sucks"?like the red sox fans are with their "Balco" and "yankees suck" chants?
As for "Balco," well...if the needle fits...
"...it was blood, my blood, and it was coming from the sutures in my ankle. You’re either stupid or bitter if you think otherwise." --Curt Schilling on the Bloody Sock, 3/17/07
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