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Jaret Wright's 2005 Cy Young Season: 20-3, 3.04 ERA
To answer your question about the transaction limitations, Hitman23:
There is no limit to how many transactions you can make (as of right now).
You do not have to pay for your transactions.
Mo' Nut: One Smoove Brotha.
Jaret Wright's 2005 Cy Young Season: 20-3, 3.04 ERA
ok....
sorry for all the questions. I've never done an auction league so I wanna get to know the environment. It's very different.
How are FA picked up? 1st come first served? Always on waivers and the end of the week the team with the least points gets first priority? Or is it a running Waiver priority depending on your previous moves? Or do you have another way?
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"Even though sometimes I can really be a monster... today, I'm just a sea monster."
A player gets dropped, and he goes on Waivers for a couple of days. After that time he becomes a free agent.Originally Posted by Hitman23
For waiver claims there is a waiver priority list. Any player claimed on waivers will have a salary of $10 OR his salary before being dropped; whichever is HIGHER.
Example 1: Orlando Cabrera get dropped last year and had a salary of $17. If someone puts in a waiver claim in on him and wins, then his salary with the new team is $17.
Example 2: Same case but the dropped player was salaried at $6. Whomever wins the waiver claim has that guy at $10 now.
All FA will be salaried at $10. First come, first serve.
Last edited by Snatch Catch; 02-17-05 at 03:43 PM.
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Jaret Wright's 2005 Cy Young Season: 20-3, 3.04 ERA
So you need to have money left over after the auction to sign players? I assume you get a credit for the salary of the player you drop.....
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"Even though sometimes I can really be a monster... today, I'm just a sea monster."
Snatch can you post the constitution in a seperate thread so we can use it as a reference. thanks
brandon
"Long Island is New Jersey with a GED." - Triumph the Insult Comic Dog.
No, you can go over the cap to sign FAs.
Fantasy Baseball: Larrupin' Lou's; New York Knights.
??? really?
I think I'm gonna wait for all the rules to be posted. I have too many questions...
I would like to suggest though, and it's fine if everyone doesn't agree, having bench players are important. at least 2 or 3.
NYYFans FBB: Evil Empire
"Even though sometimes I can really be a monster... today, I'm just a sea monster."
From the main forum:
BEHOLD! I give you THE CONSTITUTION...
>gasp!<
I. TEAMS AND ROSTERS
1.1. There will be ____ teams in the NYYFans Baseball League consisting of a mix of American and National league players. Each team will consist of 27 players (23 starters and 4 minor leaguers).
1.2. A team's roster consists of the following players:
· 5 outfielders
· 2 catchers
· 1 second baseman
· 1 shortstop
· 1 second baseman or shortstop
· 1 first baseman
· 1 third baseman
· 1 first or third baseman
· 1 utility player (non-pitcher who can be any offensive player)
· 9 pitchers (any combination of starters and relievers)
· 4 minor league players (any position)
1.3. There is a minimum innings requirement for all staffs of 900 innings. Anyone who does not achieve 900 innings, will be placed last in the categories of ERA and WHIP.
II. AUCTION
2.1. Each team must acquire 23 players at a total cost not to exceed $260 (not real money). A team need not spend the maximum.
2.2. Teams will nominate players for acquisition in random order.
2.3. The following players are eligible for the major league auction:
· Any players who are on a major league 40-man roster and are still with the major league club at the time of the auction
· Any players who are not on a major league 40-man roster but are projected to start the season on the major league squad and can be confirmed by at least half of the owners present.
2.4. If an ineligible player is selected in the auction and his ineligible status is not declared at the time of the auction, league executives have from the end of the auction until twenty-four hours before the start of the first game of opening day to uncover this error. If the error is uncovered, the team who selected the illegal player must pick a replacement player from the free agent pool. This replacement will count as a free agent in all aspects, including the $10 salary and counting towards the free agent limit. The ineligible player will then be released outright and cannot be resigned until such time he is legally eligible.
2.5. The team bidding first opens with a salary bid of at least $1 for any eligible player and the bidding proceeds at minimum increments of $1 until only one bidder is left. That team acquires the nominated player for the final bid amount. The process is repeated, with successive owners nominating players to be bid on, until every team has acquired a squad of 23 players by requisite position.
2.6. No team may make a bid for a player it cannot afford. For example, a team with $3 left and two openings on its roster is limited to a maximum bid of $2 for one player. (Leaving $1 for the other unfilled roster spot.)
2.7. No team may bid for a player who qualifies only at a position that the team has already filled and that team has already fulfilled its utility position.
2.8. After an owner acquires a player, he immediately chooses the position that player will fill. Players eligible at more than one position may be shifted during the course of the auction.
2.9. The salary of a player acquired in the major league auction is his final bid amount.
2.10. Following the major league auction, a four-round minor league draft will take place to pick the four minor league players for each team. In the first year of the league, the order of selection in the first round will be random and will be reversed in subsequent rounds. In all other years, teams will draft in reverse order of the previous year's finish for all rounds of the minor league draft.
2.11. The salary of a player drafted in the minor league draft is $5.
III. POSITION ELIGIBILITY
3.1. A player may be assigned to any position at which he appeared in 20 or more games in the preceding season. If a player did not appear in 20 games at a single position, he may be drafted only at the position(s) at which he appeared most frequently.
3.2. Once the season is underway, a player becomes eligible for any position at which he appears at least 15 times.
3.3. The position eligibility of minor leaguers who have no major league experience will be determined by their projected fielding position for the upcoming season. This position must be confirmed by a minimum of 5 owners present at the minor league draft.
3.4. Once the season is underway, a minor league call-up who is signed as a free agent and has no prior major league experience will qualify at (a) the position he played in the minors if he is signed before he actually plays a game or (b) the first position he plays in the field in the major leagues if he is signed before he plays 5 games. After 5 games at one position, the usual position eligibility rules take effect.
3.5 A player shifting positions in the off-season WILL NOT be eligible at his old position if it is clear that he has been moved to his new position for the duration of the upcoming season. He will however, gain eligibility at his old position if he plays 15 games there during the course of the upcoming season.
IV. FEES
4.1. BASIC: The entrance fee is $25. (subject to change)
4.2. All fees must be paid within one week of DRAFT DAY! Unless arrangements have been made, commissioner has right to freeze rosters until fees are up to date.
4.3. All transactions made throughout the season are free.
V. PLAYER SALARIES
5.1. The salary of a player does not change unless the player becomes a free agent, or is signed to a long-term contract.
5.2. The salary of a player acquired in the major league auction is his auction price.
5.3. The salary of a player drafted in the minor league draft is $5.
5.4. The salary of a player called up from the free agent pool during the season is $10.
5.5. When a player is claimed off waivers, his salary either becomes $10 or remains the same, whichever is higher. If the player clears waivers (i.e., is not claimed), then he becomes a free agent. If he is subsequently acquired, his salary becomes the same as a free agent, $10.
VI. PRIZE MONEY
6.1. All fees shall be paid promptly, collected, and wisely invested by the League Commissioner, who is empowered to subject owners to public humiliation and to assess fines as needed to insure payments are made to the League in a timely fashion.
6.2. The money shall be divided among the first three teams in the final standings as follows:
· 3rd Place: None
· 2nd Place: More None
· 1st Place: The Most None
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VII. STANDINGS
7.1. The following criteria are used to determine team performance:
· Composite Batting Average
· Total Runs Scored
· Total Home Runs
· Total Runs Batted In
· Total Stolen Bases
· Total Wins
· Total Saves
· Composite Earned Run Average
· Composite pitching ratio of walks and hits to innings pitched (RATIO = (BB + H)/IP)
· Composite strikeouts
7.2. Teams are ranked from first to last in each of the ten categories, and given points for each place. For example, in a fifteen-team league, the first-place team in a category receives fifteen points, the second-place team fourteen, and so on down to one point for last place. The team with the most total points wins the pennant.
7.3. In case of ties in an individual category, the tied teams are assigned points by totaling points for the rankings at issue and dividing by the total number of teams tied.
7.4. In case of ties in total points, each team involved in the tie is compared to all other teams involved in the tie in each individual category. One point is given to each team for leading in a category. The team with the most points using this method wins the tiebreaker. If, after this method is used, it is still a tie, the tie stands.
VIII. STATS
8.1. CBS Sportsline will be the recommended statistical service chosen and will constitute the official statistics for our league. Any problems with statistics/player moves etc. must be reported to the Commissioner within 7 days.
8.2. The effective date of any transaction for purposes of statistical calculation is the day of the transaction if the transaction occurred before Noon Eastern time. If the transaction occurred on or after Noon Eastern time, it is effective the next day.
8.3. Performance statistics of a player shall be assigned to a Rotisserie League team only when he is on the active roster of that team.
8.4. Standings and Transactions will be tabulated daily on-line and available on the Internet.
8.5. All regular season statistics from Major League Baseball, including any extra games necessary to determine playoff teams, will be included. Statistics from Major League Baseball's playoffs are not included.
IX. TRADES
9.1. From the completion of the major league auction until the first day of the major league season, rotisserie league teams are free to make trades of any kind without limit and without position requirements.
9.2. From the first day of the major league season until midnight of All-star day, rotisserie league teams are free to make trades of any kind without limit, so long as the active rosters of both teams involved in a trade reflect the required position distribution upon completion of the transaction. This would include subsequent pickups, drops, etc.
9.3. From the Wednesday after the scheduled All-star game through August 31, trades may take place freely between teams within 2 spots either way in the current standings. No other trade may take place (1st place may trade with any of the 2nd 3rd or 4th place teams; Last may trade with the 2nd 3rd or 4th last teams).
9.4. No trade may take place from September 1 until the last day of the regular season.
9.5. Trades made from the last day of the regular season until two weeks before the major league auction are not bound by the position distribution requirement.
9.6. No trade may take place from two weeks before the auction until the auction. Trades are official once both sides have posted the trade online.
9.7. There are no limits to the number of trades a team may make during the season.
9.8. Minor league draft picks and auction money may not be traded at any time.
X. WAIVERS
10.1. Any player may be released at any time by his rotisserie team.
10.2. When a player is released, he is placed on waivers for 7 days. Within those 7 days, the lowest placed team to claim the player acquires the player. The most recent standings shall be used to determine the lowest placed team.
10.3. When a player is claimed off waivers, his salary either becomes $10 or remains the same, whichever is higher.
10.4. After the 7-day waiver period has passed, if the player has not been claimed, he immediately becomes a free agent and is available to all teams.
10.5. The team who waived the player cannot claim the player off waivers. That team must wait until the player clears waivers and becomes a free agent before reacquiring the player.
XI. FREE-AGENT ELIGIBILITY
11.1. Any player who is on an active major league roster, not owned by another rotisserie team, and not currently on the waiver list may be acquired as a free agent. Minor league players, players on the disabled list, and players not on a major league roster are not eligible to be acquired as a free agent.
11.2. No free agents may be acquired between the last day of the previous season and Opening Day of the current season.
11.3. Free agents may be picked up from Opening Day of the season until midnight on the second to last day of the season.
11.4. After a player is released to the free agent pool, he is eligible to be claimed by all teams on a first-come, first-served basis.
11.5. Each team is limited to a combination of 40 free agent and waiver acquisitions per season.
XII. THE RESERVE LIST
12.1. A team may replace any player on its 23-man roster who has been placed on the Disabled List, sent down to the Minor Leagues, been designated for assignment, or been released by his major league team.
12.2. A reserved player is removed from a team's active roster on the day the transaction was recorded, if it was recorded before Noon Eastern time. If the transaction was recorded on or after Noon, the player is removed from the team’s active roster on the next day. The player is then placed on the team's Reserve List.
12.3. There is no limit to the number of players a team may have on its Reserve List.
12.4. Reserving a player protects a team's rights to that player.
12.5. Once a specific action has been taken to remove a player from its 23-man roster (via release or placing him on the Reserve List), a team is then free to activate a player from reserve, its minor league roster or select any eligible player from waivers or the free agent pool. The salary assigned to a player selected from the free agent pool is $10. When a player is claimed off waivers, his salary either becomes $10 or remains the same, whichever is higher.
12.6. Once a player has been activated from the Disabled List, called up from the minor leagues, or acquired by another major league team, that player must be recalled from the Reserve List within 7 days. For example, if a player is recalled from the DL on Friday May 5, he must be recalled by Friday May 12. If the player is not recalled within this time period, he will be automatically placed on waivers.
12.7. There are no limits to the number of Reserve/Activate moves a team can make in one season.
12.8. A suspended player may not be placed on the reserve list. If a player is suspended by Major League Baseball for seven or more days, he may be waived, but not reserved. If a player is suspended for six or less days, he must remain on the active roster of his rotisserie team.
XIII. MINOR LEAGUES
13.1. Following the major league auction, a four-round minor league draft will take place. In the first year of the league, the order of selection in the first round will be random and will be reversed in subsequent rounds. In all other years, teams will draft in reverse order of the previous year's finish for all four rounds of the minor league draft.
13.2. Only players who qualify as a rookie in the major leagues are eligible for the minor league draft.
13.3. When a player is drafted in the minor league draft, he is placed on the team's minor league roster. This protects a team's rights to that player.
13.4.1 If a player drafted in the minor league draft is activated by his major league team prior to September 1, the team has 7 days to activate that player. If the player is not activated within this time period, he will be automatically placed on waivers.
13.4.2 Minor leaguers called up prior to 9/1 to fill a roster spot created by a Major Leaguer going on the 15 day DL are not required to be activated or waived unless they remain on the ML roster when the DL'd player returns
13.4.3 Minor leaguers called up prior to 9/1 to fill a roster spot created by a Major Leaguer going on the 60 day DL are required to be activated or waived within 7 days.
13.5 Once a player is activated by his rotisserie team, that player loses his minor league status.
13.6. If a player remains on his team's minor league roster, he is not bound to a contract.
13.7. A minor league player may be retained from one season to the next without his salary counting towards the team’s $260 salary cap.
13.8. Each team has a maximum of four minor league players he may retain from one season to the next. In the minor league draft, a team may only draft enough players to reach the four-man minor league roster limit.
13.9. Once a player is activated, waived or reserved from the minor league roster, he cannot be put back on the minor league roster. The only way a player can return to a minor league roster is if he is drafted in a subsequent season's minor league draft.
XIV. ROSTER PROTECTION AND CONTRACTS
14.1. From season to season, each team must retain between 7 and 12 players, excluding minor league players. There is a limit of 4 minor league players a team may keep from one season to the next.
14.2. The names of the players being retained must be recorded on distributed worksheets with the league secretary by midnight exactly two weeks before the next auction. No trades may take place from the time the worksheets are due until the auction.
14.3. After two seasons (a season is defined as any part of a major league season) of a player being owned by any rotisserie team without having been released to the free agent pool, the player must be signed to a long-term contract, given his option contract, or released. Players who have been in the minor leagues from Opening Day through August 31 are not bound by this restriction. Their service time does not begin until they are called up to the major league roster during the season before September 1.
14.4. If a player is released, he is made available to all teams in the next major league auction.
14.5. If a player is given his option contract, his salary remains the same for one season. After that season is complete, the player must be released and made available for the next major league auction.
14.6. If a player is signed to a long-term contract, his salary will be raised by $4 for each year of the long-term contract. For example, if a player’s salary is $9 and a team wishes to sign him to a three-year contract, his annual salary is increased by $12 to $21 for the next three years.
14.7. If a player is released before the end of his contract, the team releasing that player will be penalized as follows: The team's salary cap will be decreased by $1 for each year in the total number of years in the contract. For example, if a player is signed to a 4-year contract and is released during his second season, the team waiving the player will have $3 removed from his allotted salary cap in the next season, leaving that team with only $257 instead of the usual $260.
14.8. A player may be signed to only one long-term contract. After the contract has expired, the player must be released and made available for the next major league auction.
14.9. Minor league players are not bound by contract until they are called up to the major leagues prior to September 1. A minor league player may be retained from one season to the next without his salary counting towards the team’s $260 salary cap.
14.10. Trades do not affect the contract status of a player.
XV. GOVERNANCE
15.1. The decision of the Commissioner supersedes the rules herein and is final in any disputes. He also has the power to change a rule with an unforeseen loophole post de facto (After the fact) for the benefit of the league. The overall good of the league as a whole will be greater then the benefit to any sum of its constituents.
15.2. All owners (known as the Committee Of the Whole) designate annually an Executive Committee composed of five team owners in good standing. The current Commissioner (self-appointed for life…until he gets fed up with it) is Snatch Catch.
15.3. Rule changes, pronouncements, and acts of whimsy after the inaugural auction are determined by majority vote of the Committee of the Whole.
15.4. The commissioner will hear all arguments on any disputed trades and will make a decision as to the acceptability of the trade in question.
Fantasy Baseball: Larrupin' Lou's; New York Knights.
Also from the main forum:
Fantasy Baseball: Larrupin' Lou's; New York Knights.
Playing without bench players is more complicated, and makes the league more competitive and thought provoking, IMHO.??? really?
I think I'm gonna wait for all the rules to be posted. I have too many questions...
I would like to suggest though, and it's fine if everyone doesn't agree, having bench players are important. at least 2 or 3.
If you have a bench slot, you can wait out a cold player or wait out a suspended player by rotating in a replacement.
Additionally you could hold a rookie that was on the major league roster on the bench, and wait for him to start playing well. The bench in a fantasy league is like a crutch.
When you have EVERYONE on your roster starting, there is no leeway. You have to make a decision as to who you want to pick up based on how they are going to play for you right now. You can't pick someone up and stash them on your bench "just in case"- you always have to be making decisions as to whether or not the player you pick up is going to outperform the player that you drop..RIGHT NOW. The bench allows for too much "room for error".
Last year: Orlando Cabrera isn't playing well. You can't just move someone else into the lineup from your bench; you have to make a decision whether or not you want to wait him out (He's proven to be a top fantasy SS in the past) or drop him and sign a replacement. It makes things much more interesting...
Mo' Nut: One Smoove Brotha.
Jaret Wright's 2005 Cy Young Season: 20-3, 3.04 ERA
you're the commish man. Cool with me!
NYYFans FBB: Evil Empire
"Even though sometimes I can really be a monster... today, I'm just a sea monster."
Want to know what the coolest thing is?
How many times have you ever been sitting there in your fantasy drafts and said to yourself
"I wonder if I should take so-and-so right now, or wait a round..."
or, to another person, said
"EFF YOU! THAT WAS MY NEXT PICK! DAMN IT!"
Well, with an auction league that will never happen. You control who you get. If you really want a player, you will get him. Period.
Mo' Nut: One Smoove Brotha.
Jaret Wright's 2005 Cy Young Season: 20-3, 3.04 ERA
In one of my other leagues, which is a money league, that happened to me 5 rounds in a row. Mother effer took so many of my picks, but it worked out because my secondary pick turned out to be Beltre in the 10th round, and another turned out to be Clemens in the 12th
NYYFans FBB: Evil Empire
"Even though sometimes I can really be a monster... today, I'm just a sea monster."
I'm a little bit wary of the $10 for FAs..what if they're just a guy to fill a roster hole? Like if I wanted to pick up Enrique Wilson because I needed a 2B/SS. He's still $10? What if I'm near the salary cap? I can't sign anyone and I have to play with an incomplete roster until that player is healthy?
And about the reserve clause..why only 7 days? If a guy is on the 15 day DL, why can't we DL him for those 15 days?
Also, do the $5 for the four minor leaguers count towards the $260 total, leaving us $220 for the main draft?
Also, no OPS or OBP as a stat? I know it's not a traditional FBB Stat, but for something like this I wouldn't mind seeing it...
"My point is you can't compare things with statistics." -Joe Morgan
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." -Joe Morgan
Kevin: New York Squeaks
Yes they are $10. I kind of went into it in the other thread with Big_E...
You can go over the salary cap IN SEASON. You could have $335 worth of players on your team if you wanted, but going into next season you'd have to be under $260, with at least $1 per roster spot that you had open. You'd have to cut everyone else- its very similar to the NFL in that regard.
You can try and put together a bunch of high priced talent and make a push for the championship., but in the end everyone else will be scooping up the younger, cheaper talent, and have better foundations going forward.
I think you may have misread the constitution:
12.6. Once a player has been activated from the Disabled List, called up from the minor leagues, or acquired by another major league team, that player must be recalled from the Reserve List within 7 days. For example, if a player is recalled from the DL on Friday May 5, he must be recalled by Friday May 12. If the player is not recalled within this time period, he will be automatically placed on waivers.Nope.
13.7. A minor league player may be retained from one season to the next without his salary counting towards the team’s $260 salary cap.14.9. Minor league players are not bound by contract until they are called up to the major leagues prior to September 1. A minor league player may be retained from one season to the next without his salary counting towards the team’s $260 salary cap.Interesting.Also, no OPS or OBP as a stat? I know it's not a traditional FBB Stat, but for something like this I wouldn't mind seeing it...
The Con: Everything that you buy/read/listen to about auction leagues is based on a 5x5 traditional Roto setup.
The Pro: We make our own system.
I would not be opposed to it either. Lets see what everyone else has to say...
Mo' Nut: One Smoove Brotha.
Jaret Wright's 2005 Cy Young Season: 20-3, 3.04 ERA
I like the traditional categories.
Fantasy Baseball: Larrupin' Lou's; New York Knights.
Thanks. The Constitution is a little overwhelming to get everything.I did misread that, so thanks, and thanks for the info on the cap in season. Let me clarify further:
A team can keep 7 players, 12 players, or anywhere in between the next year at the same price, but then to keep that same player in 2006 we would have to lock them up long term, or is it that they choose to keep them for one year at the same price and then they have to go back into the draft, forfeiting the rights to lock them up long term.
Could I get a bit of a further explanation on that, if I didn't have it right?
I mentioned the BA/OBP thing because I think that OBP and to an even greater extent, OPS, are much better indicators than BA, since we don't have doubles, triples, etc as categories (obviously). If the player doesn't score or drive anyone in, singles and triples count the same, and there's no bonus for a player with a good eye other than a few more runs.
"My point is you can't compare things with statistics." -Joe Morgan
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." -Joe Morgan
Kevin: New York Squeaks
What do you think?
I like the "option year" aspect as long as you have to throw him back in a year if you pick up the option; you can't sign him long term if you pick up his option.
I also like the idea of doing away with the option year all together, and just saying "sign him or drop him at the end of the season".
I think I like the first way better, though: You can keep a guy for an extra season at his current salary, but then you HAVE to throw him back after that year.
Thoughts?
Mo' Nut: One Smoove Brotha.
Jaret Wright's 2005 Cy Young Season: 20-3, 3.04 ERA
I like that idea, the you can keep anyone for one year at the same salary, but then have to throw him back, or you can sign him up long term. Adds an extra dimension.
"My point is you can't compare things with statistics." -Joe Morgan
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." -Joe Morgan
Kevin: New York Squeaks
I'm for that.I like that idea, the you can keep anyone for one year at the same salary, but then have to throw him back, or you can sign him up long term. Adds an extra dimension.
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I agree. Sign a player for $15.I like that idea, the you can keep anyone for one year at the same salary, but then have to throw him back, or you can sign him up long term. Adds an extra dimension.
After one year you have to decide whether or not you want to pick up his option, sign him to a long term deal, or waive him.
Option: You get the player for $15 next year, but lose any chance to sign him to a long term deal after that and must throw him back into the FA pool.
Contract: Sign him to a contract with the max length of 4 years.
Waive: See Ya. Back into the FA pool.
Mo' Nut: One Smoove Brotha.
Jaret Wright's 2005 Cy Young Season: 20-3, 3.04 ERA
everything looks good to me. this should be fun. I don't know about those prizes though.
Now you see that Evil will always triumph because Good is dumb. - Dark Helmet, "Spaceballs"
So, is there a bid war for the players or something...? or are they initially given a $ amount?
It's a bid on players, hence the "auction" part.
I'm unsure of exactly how the draft goes in some aspects, though. Who calls out the players? Random owners? Does it go around so that each owner takes a turn calling out a player? What's the deal with that?
"My point is you can't compare things with statistics." -Joe Morgan
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." -Joe Morgan
Kevin: New York Squeaks
right thats what I thoughtIt's a bid on players, hence the "auction" part.
I'm unsure of exactly how the draft goes in some aspects, though. Who calls out the players? Random owners? Does it go around so that each owner takes a turn calling out a player? What's the deal with that?
but... those other questions that you asked.... they are the ones that I need answers to
Maybe we could do it, that whoever wins the player calls out the next name? So if I win Pujols, I can put A-Rod up for bid, for example. That would keep some order in the process...
Fantasy Baseball: Larrupin' Lou's; New York Knights.
The way that we'll do it is a randomly order that is pre-selected prior to the auction. We can even make it the order that everyone is on the signup list. The order doesn't really matter, as its an auction and anyone has access to any player. It won't be snake-style, either, it will just be on a continuous loop.
One thing, though: You cannot pass on your turn to throw someone out.
Mo' Nut: One Smoove Brotha.
Jaret Wright's 2005 Cy Young Season: 20-3, 3.04 ERA
I would imagine there's some strategy involved with the order, though. For instance, if you were the first one to throw out a player, you could throw out a top player that you don't really want in order to put someone into a $30-$35 hole early, etc, so that they can't bid on the player you REALLY want that would come up later.
The second part shouldn't be a problem. It's not like you're picking them, and I'm sure that everyone can think of a player to randomly throw out, even if they don't want him.
"My point is you can't compare things with statistics." -Joe Morgan
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." -Joe Morgan
Kevin: New York Squeaks
Ahhhh...now we're getting into the meat and potatos of the auction.I would imagine there's some strategy involved with the order, though. For instance, if you were the first one to throw out a player, you could throw out a top player that you don't really want in order to put someone into a $30-$35 hole early, etc, so that they can't bid on the player you REALLY want that would come up later.
The second part shouldn't be a problem. It's not like you're picking them, and I'm sure that everyone can think of a player to randomly throw out, even if they don't want him.
The order has VERY minimal bearing on things, however, you've hit on one of the big auction strategies that people use: Throw out players that you DON'T want so as to get you fellow owners to use up their money, and save the guys that you want for later...
...but then there's a flip side to that: Throw out guys that you DO want early so as to try and get them on the cheap while the rest of the league says "I don't want HIM that bad, I'd rather have player X later. There's so many guys out there, I'll wait until later", only to see player X invloved in a bidding war later and have his price driven up.
As far as inital bids on players goes, its at the person who throws out the player's name's discretion.
However, there is sort of an unwritten rule to not waste time and be a jackass by calling out "ARod...$1".
ARod is obviously not going for a buck.
A more appropriate bid would be $25 or $30. He's obviously not going for either of those figures, but its a much more efficient starting point than $1.
Mo' Nut: One Smoove Brotha.
Jaret Wright's 2005 Cy Young Season: 20-3, 3.04 ERA
Yeah-I'd say a more reasonable figure for him would be about 256 million. Oh, you're talking about the Auction League.
Then again, even if someone called out A-rod for a buck, the next guy could just do what you said and bounce it up for "A-rod for 25," or something-you don't have to bid at simply $1 intervals, from what I read, just "At least $1." I assume there are no half dollar intervals, correct? You couldn't raise a $7 bid to $10.50 or something? Or $14.21.
"My point is you can't compare things with statistics." -Joe Morgan
"I've always felt that starting pitching is the most important part of the rotation." -Joe Morgan
Kevin: New York Squeaks
Exactly: no cents. Just round dollar figures.Yeah-I'd say a more reasonable figure for him would be about 256 million. Oh, you're talking about the Auction League.
Then again, even if someone called out A-rod for a buck, the next guy could just do what you said and bounce it up for "A-rod for 25," or something-you don't have to bid at simply $1 intervals, from what I read, just "At least $1." I assume there are no half dollar intervals, correct? You couldn't raise a $7 bid to $10.50 or something? Or $14.21.
The next guy could bid up to $25, but its still a waste. Certain guys do deserve a $1 starting price- in fact a large majority do. But the guys that are going to end up over $20 or so FOR SURE, certainly do not.
Mo' Nut: One Smoove Brotha.
Jaret Wright's 2005 Cy Young Season: 20-3, 3.04 ERA
minor leaguers too? man this is so gonna hurt my productivity at work
Can you make the 7th as the auction date? If so, vote in the poll.
Mo' Nut: One Smoove Brotha.
Jaret Wright's 2005 Cy Young Season: 20-3, 3.04 ERA
i cold have sworn i voted for the 7th alreayd. ah well, what I mant was I am gonna be doing major reserach over the next couple of weeks. hoepfully I dont get fired by then lol
Have we decided on what we are going to do with the money? Prizes perhaps? sorry i forget what was decided.
"Long Island is New Jersey with a GED." - Triumph the Insult Comic Dog.
Donation to the site.
Perhaps in future years when we have established a foundation, people will be willing to contribute more, and we will have some sort of prize set up, but for now, I say we just focus on establishing the league and making sure everything is smooth.
Mo' Nut: One Smoove Brotha.
Jaret Wright's 2005 Cy Young Season: 20-3, 3.04 ERA
i got no prob with that. i was just curious
"Long Island is New Jersey with a GED." - Triumph the Insult Comic Dog.
Snatch,
If this has already been asked, I do apologize...
I was wondering if there was going to be a moderator for the auction or an actual auction order. I have read the constitution, but I may have missed this info.
"A Humble Man of Grace and Dignity. A Captain Who Led by Example. Proud of the Pinstripes Tradition and Dedicated to the Pursuit of Excellence. A Yankee Forever." - Don Mattingly's Plaque in Monument Park
no parents, no party.
NYYFans FBB: Evil Empire
"Even though sometimes I can really be a monster... today, I'm just a sea monster."
As commish, I'll be the mod. I think Soriambi and Big_E will be helping me in keeping track of all the rosters and values spent.
We will take turns throwing out players in a circular order, which doesn't really matter. We can just go from bottom to top, or top to bottom on the signup list.
Oh, and you CANNOT skip your turn to throw someone out.
The order for the auction would go like this (In a hypothetical 4 team league):
Team 1, Team 2, Team 3, Team 4, Team 1, Team 2, Team 3, Team 4, Team 1, Team 2, Team 3, Team 4, Team 1...
Mo' Nut: One Smoove Brotha.
Jaret Wright's 2005 Cy Young Season: 20-3, 3.04 ERA
Okay, I was wondering that. I have done it where it goes (using your analogy) T1, T2, T3, T4....T4, T3, T2, T1. Not sure if I have a preference, but both do have advantages. Although, in an auction, it is a totally different beast.
Would it be possible to have running list of players that have been taken over here in the forum?
Meaning, (I know it is our responsiblity) but I draft Tino and it is posted in the forum that Tino is off the board. Just as a cross-reference. Any other suggestions bettering this idea are greatly appreciated.
"A Humble Man of Grace and Dignity. A Captain Who Led by Example. Proud of the Pinstripes Tradition and Dedicated to the Pursuit of Excellence. A Yankee Forever." - Don Mattingly's Plaque in Monument Park
The reason the snake style is used in drafts is because it seeks to make it more fair to the person who has the last pick in the draft.
That isn't needed in an auction, as you're not picking anyone, but merely nominating a player for bidding.
I think the running list would be a great idea, but there's a slight hitch...
It would take a lot of time and effort to do so, and an auction moves at a pretty brisk pace. Its not like a draft where you can make your pick and then kind of "tune out" until you're up again. In an auction you are constantly in the mix for the length of the proceedings.
Because of this, no one will really have the time to compile a list on the side AND update it on the site. I would recommend getting some cheat sheets out of fantasy mags and just cross names off as they come up. Also, I would recommend that everyone trys to keep track of what each player is going for, regardless of whether or not you win him. That way, if Big_E, Soriambi or myself misses something, we can always have backup later.
Mo' Nut: One Smoove Brotha.
Jaret Wright's 2005 Cy Young Season: 20-3, 3.04 ERA
I wonder if it is possible for MHHL in the chat forum to setup a side panel, where anyone who is purchased can placed.
Believe me, I intend on the scratch and cross method, but having run a live football draft for 5 years, I know that keeping up isn't the easiest thing to do, and that is with everyone in the same room at the same time.
For example, there are 16 teams? with roughly 25 players per roster that is 400 players. It will almost impossible for everyone to keep track using the scratch and cross method.
I understand with the amount of teams, it will be difficult for a repeat, but when I am trying to buy for example David DeJesus in the 19th round and he was bought already in 15th, and I somehow missed it. There could be confusion.
I was just trying to figure out a way to keep a live running tally that everyone can view. Any other suggestions?
"A Humble Man of Grace and Dignity. A Captain Who Led by Example. Proud of the Pinstripes Tradition and Dedicated to the Pursuit of Excellence. A Yankee Forever." - Don Mattingly's Plaque in Monument Park
Someone will just type- "He's already sold" or something...
Oh, and as of right now there are 13 teams that paid by the Sunday deadline. We can now plan our dollar values for players accordingly.
I would love it if there were an easier way to keep track of everything. I'm going to have an excel spreadsheet open that will keep track of salaries as well as the amount that each team has left. I will post the amounts each team has every 10 rounds or so.
Mo' Nut: One Smoove Brotha.
Jaret Wright's 2005 Cy Young Season: 20-3, 3.04 ERA
okay, after going through the rules the only question i have is if I release a guy I paid $1 for, how am I suppose to afford a FA? Do I get credited $10 or what I won the player for?
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wait, I think I asked this question already.....
I did. N/m...
NYYFans FBB: Evil Empire
"Even though sometimes I can really be a monster... today, I'm just a sea monster."
I was reading this thinking "Oh my goodness, how much weed has Steve smoked in his lifetime?"okay, after going through the rules the only question i have is if I release a guy I paid $1 for, how am I suppose to afford a FA? Do I get credited $10 or what I won the player for?
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wait, I think I asked this question already.....
I did. N/m...
I'm so glad you realized it before the end of your post!
Mo' Nut: One Smoove Brotha.
Jaret Wright's 2005 Cy Young Season: 20-3, 3.04 ERA
Not really...he had to go back and edit it.
Fantasy Baseball: Larrupin' Lou's; New York Knights.
well it's also early and I'm hungover....I was reading this thinking "Oh my goodness, how much weed has Steve smoked in his lifetime?"
I'm so glad you realized it before the end of your post!
NYYFans FBB: Evil Empire
"Even though sometimes I can really be a monster... today, I'm just a sea monster."
It's 11:00!well it's also early and I'm hungover....
Fantasy Baseball: Larrupin' Lou's; New York Knights.
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