Who ya takin?
Cardinals in 4
Red Sox in 4
Cardinals in 5
Red Sox in 5
Cardinals in 6
Red Sox in 6
Cardinals in 7
Red Sox in 7
Who ya takin?
If they ask who was our star, give them 25 names, and if you forget our names, just tell them we were Yankees.
This is going to be a great matchup. Sox have the advantage in rotation and possibly bullpen (depends on which Cardinals bullpen shows up) and the hitting is about even with the Cardinals edge in defense.
Two red colored teams of 100 years of history.
Awesome baseball - a classic matchup for once...
Cards in 6!....mark it down.
Cards in 7
Sox in 6
I said Cards in six.
Pujols, Rolen, Walker, Edmonds. Danger!
Sox, Six.
I'm picking the Cards in 6 because they'll probably love the Monster. Pujols in Fenway.
And because after I picked both LA and Houston to beat them... Well, I don't know who to pick anymore.
Sox have HFA so, I'm really guessing here.
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One thing, though... Who will Joe Buck root for?? He can't root against the Cards (?) but he really likes those Sox.
~always in heaven
The Sox should be considered underdogs, IMO.
I think it goes 6. Who wins? I dunno.
I'd actually like to see the Cards win - they're a nice bunch. But I think the Sawx are like an avalanche right now. The only thing that is gonna stop them is a real sturdy tree.
Waiting for Sterling to retire so I can start listening to games on the radio again...
Red Sox in six.
Cards in 6. If it goes 7, I'm getting nervous. It's always come down to 7 since 1946, but I'd wonder if they could really do it this time. Just get it over with.
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Sox in six. They're on a high, and will probably steamroll St. Louis into submission.
I will watch this series intently, if only for the satisfaction of seeing Pedro flail away at pitches when he hits in Game 5 (assuming it gets that far). Oh, and Ortiz playing 1B? I can't miss that!
I believe Pedro will be starting Games 3 & 7, unless Pedro is volunteering to be a PH while he isn't pitching... Who knows after that odd relief appearance in an 8-1 game.Originally posted by guinevere_79
Sox in six. They're on a high, and will probably steamroll St. Louis into submission.
I will watch this series intently, if only for the satisfaction of seeing Pedro flail away at pitches when he hits in Game 5 (assuming it gets that far). Oh, and Ortiz playing 1B? I can't miss that!
Cards in 7. On Halloween night at Fenway.
(I believe Pedro's pitching Game 3, BTW. And that game's at St. Louis, so Pedro will be batting 9th for the Sox. I never want to see anyone get HBP, but I'd love to see a few in there high & tight on Petey.)
Haha, haven't you seen the clip of Pedro rushing the mound after getting hit in Monteal?Originally posted by MiamiKat
Cards in 7. On Halloween night at Fenway.
(I believe Pedro's pitching Game 3, BTW. And that game's at St. Louis, so Pedro will be batting 9th for the Sox. I never want to see anyone get HBP, but I'd love to see a few in there high & tight on Petey.)
Sorry, my bad. So he's pitching in Game 3 huh?
What are the pitching match-ups for this series, btw?
Game 1 - Woody Williams vs. Tim WakefieldOriginally posted by guinevere_79
Sorry, my bad. So he's pitching in Game 3 huh?
What are the pitching match-ups for this series, btw?
Game 2 - Matt Morris vs. Curt Schilling
Game 3 - Jeff Suppan vs. Pedro Martinez
Game 4 - Jason Marquis vs. Derek Lowe
(and, if necessary)
Game 5 - Woody Williams vs. Tim Wakefield
Game 6 - Matt Morris vs. Curt Schilling
Game 7 - Jeff Suppan vs. Pedro Martinez
Having Pedro start Game 3 gives him four days more after that "side session" and allows him to pitch Game 7 at Fenway if necessary. I think he'll fare really well facing a team that hasn't seen much of anything from him.
This is where his "cutter" can actually be useful.
sox in 6
mike myers gets the win in extra innings after 12pm aka holloween
Cards in 7........
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Cards in 5 !
Sox don't get out of St Louis ALIVE!
The changes in 2005 will have us back on top!
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You're kidding...Pedro actually rushed the mound?! Unfortunately, I've missed that priceless bit of video.Originally posted by Circle Change
Haha, haven't you seen the clip of Pedro rushing the mound after getting hit in Monteal?
Did he get the Robin Ventura treatment?
(BTW, I like -- and will miss -- RV...but did he ever get humiliated by Nolan Ryan...)
yeah that clip is mad funny...i believe he throws his helmet at the guy too ahhahahOriginally posted by MiamiKat
You're kidding...Pedro actually rushed the mound?! Unfortunately, I've missed that priceless bit of video.
Did he get the Robin Ventura treatment?
(BTW, I like -- and will miss -- RV...but did he ever get humiliated by Nolan Ryan...)
Do you have aOriginally posted by bnorris85
yeah that clip is mad funny...i believe he throws his helmet at the guy too ahhahah???
Pretty please. I've seen the pictures when Gerald Williams (right?) rushed Pedro and, well, the pictures were none too flattering to Pedro.
So I really want to see this clip too.
No Link.
If you turn on ESPN Classic now and then, Pedro now has his own SportsCentury profile and they show it at the beginning.. it is pretty funny stuff. I actually thought he held up ok... for Pedro, you know. No Robin Ventura treatment... or else you know they'd be playing it over and over again on ESPN.
couldnt find it...i have it on tape at my house thoughOriginally posted by MiamiKat
Do you have a
Pretty please. I've seen the pictures when Gerald Williams (right?) rushed Pedro and, well, the pictures were none too flattering to Pedro.
So I really want to see this clip too.
Mounting frustration may have gotten to the temperamental pitcher in late September, when he was suspended for eight games for charging the mound after the Phillies' Mike Williams threw at him twice in retaliation for beaning Philadelphia outfielder Gregg Jefferies.
i forgot how small he used to be too
Red Sox in Six. Give all your 1918 paraphenelia to the homeless guy cleaning your windshield.
Yeah, look at him... probably on his way to spotting a 98 mph heater on some poor soul after showing them back-to-back change-ups at 78 and 82.Originally posted by bnorris85
i forgot how small he used to be too
I liked him better when he looked like that... his mechanics just seemed to be a lot more sound and his delivery was extremely quick.
<*sigh*> if only the redsox didnt make him pitch hurt to impress the canidates for new ownershipOriginally posted by Circle Change
Yeah, look at him... probably on his way to spotting a 98 mph heater on some poor soul after showing them back-to-back change-ups at 78 and 82.
Cards in 6 or 7.
Your fatalist nature only applied to the Yankees, eh? I figured you'd be here with something likeOriginally posted by IncredibleByNature
Cards in 6 or 7.
Sox in 4. :rolleyes:
By the by, I picked Cards in 6.
18-1
My fatalist nature applies to my life in general. Soooooo sorry to disappoint you. :rolleyes:Originally posted by EdRuane
Your fatalist nature only applied to the Yankees, eh? I figured you'd be here with something like
Sox in 4. :rolleyes:
By the by, I picked Cards in 6.
Lets say Cards in 4, so this can end quickly.
You've got nothing to believe in but believing in yourself.
Cards in 6. And I'll tell all my Boston brothers the same thing that they cried in 2003 - that game 7 meant absolutely nothing if they don't go all the way and win the W.S.
I predicted the Cards/Sox to be in the WS.
Go Cards in 6 (although a sweep would be nice
Under siege until Jan. 21, 2013.
Cards in 6.
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Cards in 4, 5, 6 or 7. Doesn't matter - as long as it's the Cards...
Sox in 6. I have tickets. I wanna witness it.
Head to Head Matchups
C: Jason Varitek v. Mike Matheny
Varitek has a better stick by far and unless he's catching Tim Wakefield is pretty strong with the glove. Matheny, on the other hand, is possibly the best defensive catcher the Cardinals have had. It's nearly impossible to get a wild pitch past him and his arm is good. Slight edge to BOS
1B: Kevin Millar/David Ortiz v. Albert Pujols
Ortiz is, of course, a DH that can play first (not that Millar is Keith Hernandez or anything). Both Millar and Ortiz can hit; Ortiz being able to hit better and being quite locked in now as well. Pujols is an underrated fielder and is also quite locked in now. I'd give it to Pujols because of the glove. Slight edge to STL
2B: Mark Bellhorn v. Tony Womack
Very streaky players. Bellhorn K's a lot and has sometimes lethargic defense. Womack doesn't walk enough and also has sometimes lethargic defense (converted shortstop). Womack does have the speed factor, Bellhorn's got the pop. Even.
3B: Bill Mueller v. Scott Rolen
Mueller is a good little player--he's got some pop, hits well, and is good with the glove. Unfortunately, Rolen has got a LOT of pop, hits very well, and seems ready to perform his one-man show of Brooks Robinson Live! any second now. Strong edge to STL
SS: Orlando Cabrera v. Edgar Renteria
Very similar players--both have smidgens of power, play very good defense, and are competent hitters. Renteria's been to the Dance before, but Cabrera's doing the job right now. Even.
LF: Manny Ramirez v. Reggie Sanders
Manny is a beast of a hitter. Reggie's no slouch, but he can't compare. He is slightly better with the glove, but this is (a.) left field and (b). not that much better. Strong edge to BOS
CF: Johnny Damon v. Jim Edmonds
Well, Johnny D took all but Game Seven off basically in the ALCS. Nevertheless, he remains a pesky leadoff man. Edmonds has got the pop, but tends to K a lot. Both are good in the field, although Edmonds has the arm that Damon is lacking. Slight edge to STL
RF: Trot Nixon v. Larry Walker
Trot is a strong player--a good hitter that is fantastic with the glove and has a great arm. Walker is a better hitter and is a Gold Glover as well. You can also see the glint in his eyes--he's reverting to the Blake Street Bomber days, back in the heyday of Dante, Ellis, Vinny...he wants a ring bad. Slight edge to STL
Bench: The Cardinals have an interesting bench--Yadier Molina, Marlon Anderson, Hector Luna, Roger Cedeno, John Mabry, and So Taguchi. Defensively, these guys are pretty good (except Cedeno). Offensively, only so-so. You're not going to expect too many pinch hit blasts out of any of these guys except maybe Mabry. Cedeno can run. The Red Sox have--Doug Mirabelli, Doug Mientkiewicz, Pokey Reese, Gabe Kapler, and Dave Roberts. Again, not too much pop (maybe Kapler), but great defense and an ever helpful speedster, Roberts. Even
Rotation: Curt Schilling, Pedro Martinez, Tim Wakefield, Derek Lowe/Bronson Arroyo, vs. Matt Morris, Woody Williams, Jeff Suppan, Jason Marquis. On paper, Boston has a better rotation, but after the grueling ALCS, who knows for sure? And with Schilling doing his best Roy Hobbs imitation it gets even dicier. The Cardinals don't have much of a "name" rotation, but it gets the job done and did a nice job holding off the Killer B's down the stretch. For Boston, they're gonna need a healthy Schilling, an A game from Pedro, and a Game Seven Lowe. Edge to BOS
Closer: Keith Foulke v. Jason Isringhausen
Battle of the former A's closers! I think Foulke is looking better to me right now, but Isringhausen gets the job done as well. Slight edge to BOS
Bullpen: The Sox bullpen might be a tad beleaguered right now and there's only a few guys Francona really seems to trust (Embree, Timlin). The Cardinals pen has been effective--nobody is lights out, but guys like Tavarez and Calero have done well. Slight edge to STL
Manager: Terry Francona v. Tony LaRussa
LaRussa has a ring on his finger. He's been to the Dance before. He's a Hall of Fame manager. Francona has done some nice "think outside the box" stuff, but rest assured that LaRussa's not going to be asleep at the wheel (if anything, he'll micromanage). Edge to STL
Ballparks: Both parks provide strong team atmospheres; no Johnny Bandwagons in either of these cities. Even.
Intangibles: The Sox are on an euphoric high after dumping their hated rivals, but the Cardinals haven't taken too kindly to the whole storybook thang, dumping the Dodgers (anyone remember Finley's grand slam?) and Astros. They're not going to be caught up by this whole "reverse curse" thing. Remember '46 and Slaughter and Pesky? '67 and Gibson and Brock? There ya go. Even.
Prediction: Cardinals in Seven
Cardinals in 6.
Boston fans shouldn't care either way. They all say that it doesn't matter anymore because they beat the Yankees.
Great post. I agreed with just about every bit of analysis except the bench. Pokey Reese and Doug Mientkiewicz are gold-glovers. Are there any gold-glovers on the Card's bench? This helps to strengthen your defense in late-inning situations which helps out our pitching staff, notably the Red Sox's overused and untrustworthy bullpen.Originally posted by C. Bellinger
Head to Head Matchups
Bench: The Cardinals have an interesting bench--Yadier Molina, Marlon Anderson, Hector Luna, Roger Cedeno, John Mabry, and So Taguchi. Defensively, these guys are pretty good (except Cedeno). Offensively, only so-so. You're not going to expect too many pinch hit blasts out of any of these guys except maybe Mabry. Cedeno can run. The Red Sox have--Doug Mirabelli, Doug Mientkiewicz, Pokey Reese, Gabe Kapler, and Dave Roberts. Again, not too much pop (maybe Kapler), but great defense and an ever helpful speedster, Roberts. Even
Also Mirabelli does have some pop too
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/player...s?statsId=5692
You mean to tell me there's more baseball to be played?Originally posted by NJ Fan
Cardinals in 6.
Boston fans shouldn't care either way. They all say that it doesn't matter anymore because they beat the Yankees.
I voted Cards in 6, but I will also take Cards in 4, 5 or 7 :-)
St. Louis doesn't need any more gold-glovers on its bench since a lot of its starters are gold-glovers anyway.Originally posted by FoulkeLore
Great post. I agreed with just about every bit of analysis except the bench. Pokey Reese and Doug Mientkiewicz are gold-glovers. Are there any gold-glovers on the Card's bench? This helps to strengthen your defense in late-inning situations which helps out our pitching staff, notably the Red Sox's overused and untrustworthy bullpen.
Also Mirabelli does have some pop too
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/player...s?statsId=5692
But really, matching up the players by position won't do any good in predicting who'll win...team play and strategy counts the most, as was shown by the Florida Marlins last year. I'm even cautious about making any predictions myself because we don't really know if the St. Louis version of Murderer's Row can impose its will on Pedro and Schilling. I do know for a fact that they won't roll over and die against Wakefield and Lowe though.
My gut feel tells me it will be Sox in 5 or 6 games. But I just realized that the Cards haven't lost a game in Busch this postseason, so that may be a good sign.
Bummer...no "Robin Ventura treatment"Originally posted by bnorris85
couldnt find it...i have it on tape at my house though
Mounting frustration may have gotten to the temperamental pitcher in late September, when he was suspended for eight games for charging the mound after the Phillies' Mike Williams threw at him twice in retaliation for beaning Philadelphia outfielder Gregg Jefferies.
i forgot how small he used to be too
Given that Pedro's a pretty lean guy now (it's especially noticeable when he stands next to Schilling
As for the poll, I'm sticking with Cards in 7. Maybe even 6. I admit some of that is wishful thinking, but it's also because NL teams the past few years seem to get shortchanged & even underrated in the face of all the Yankees/Sox hype.
BTW, which team is supposed to be favored in this World Series, according to the media organizations? I haven't watched any ESPN or read any sports websites since the devastating loss...I will only start watching/reading again if Boston loses to St. Louis. If they win...god, I'd have to deal with "Destiny" or "It's Our Year" for another year or so...
Coming from a Sox fan i can assure you that this is not what we think.Originally posted by NJ Fan
Cardinals in 6.
Boston fans shouldn't care either way. They all say that it doesn't matter anymore because they beat the Yankees.
We are looking for the Series win. As far as beating you goes. We won head to head this season and if thats all we cared about then that would have been good enough.
She ended it with a *wink*. She was joking.Originally posted by Boggs
Coming from a Sox fan i can assure you that this is not what we think.
We are looking for the Series win. As far as beating you goes. We won head to head this season and if thats all we cared about then that would have been good enough.
My Bad, i dont usually look at the icons.
I watched a show last night--I think it was "Outside the Lines" with Jeremy Schapp, and he had 3 huge Sox fans on. One was an actor---(I forgot his name)..the other was the film critic, Jeffrey Lyons, the third was the guy who owns SoSH...they were asked to speak for Red Sox fans. The three agreed that whatever happens now doesn't matter. The only thing they said that mattered, was beating the Yankees.Originally posted by Boggs
Coming from a Sox fan i can assure you that this is not what we think.
We are looking for the Series win. As far as beating you goes. We won head to head this season and if thats all we cared about then that would have been good enough.
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