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    What are your top five worst losses remembered as Yankees fans? Although I have read a lot and due to that know much about the history of our Yankees, I am only 19 and have not seen much throughout the history of the Yankees. Since we as Yankees fans experience losing much less than winning, it is harder for us to deal with it. I wondered what people felt were the top 5 losses they watched the Yankees suffer over the years that hurt the worst.

    The five worst losses I've ever seen while watching the Yankees are:

    1.) Yankees vs Mariners (1995 ALDS game 5): Sticks out because I was only 10 at the time. I had never seen the Yankees in the playoffs in my lifetime, and being 9 when it happened, the strike had rolled right off my back. 1994 had been the first time I had checked the standings every day and I remember them being in first when the strike hit; so when the next season started I thought they'd go right back to the top of the league.

    The wild card was their first playoff appearance in 15 years, and it was great as the Yankees took the first two games at the Stadium (the division format has since changed and if that series took place today games 4 and 5 would have been at the Stadium). Game 2 was a masterpiece that Leyritz won with a homerun in extra innings. When the Mariners came back to tie the series, the finale was set.

    The game was amazing, and the Yankees took the lead in extra innings. But the Mariners came back to win it amazingly, saving baseball in Seattle and pretty much giving birth to the idea for Safeco Field in the process. I almost cried, and even at 10 that would have been embarrassing.

    2.) Yankees vs Diamondbacks (2001 World Series game 7): Who can forget? Oh how fresh the pain still is from this one; and looking back on it, the Yankees shouldn't even have been in position to win that series, and yet they were. They had miraculously won games 4 and 5 (some all-time Yankees wins, which would have been higher on the list had game 7 not been a loss) and taken momentum going to Arizona, but it wasn't too last.

    Everyone remembers the Yankees for not hitting in that series (and they didn't, which had less to do with Randy Johnson and Curt Schilling than from a genuine slump. Even Brian Anderson and Miguel Batista looked great against the Yankees in that series.) but what I remember is the lack of good pitching. Mussina had a whopper in game one, and Pettitte was medicore in game 2 and absolutely imploded on the mound in game 6. If one of those three games had been a true quality start, then game 7 wouldn't even have been necessary.

    Yet in that game, the Yankees DID have quality pitching. Clemens outpitched the younger Schilling and the Yankees went into the bottom of the 8th up by one. In came Rivera who had a 1-2-3 inning; it looked like everything was in the bag. However, it wasn't meant to be; and while Luis Gonzalez's hit got all the press, to me (after Rivera's error) the big moment for the D-Backs was Tony Womack's double. That tied the game and gave the D-Backs the momentum firmly, just as the Yankees homeruns in the 9th of games 4 and 5 had done the same. Was there any doubt the Yankees would win games 4 and 5; none for me.

    I felt the same when Womack knocked in the tying run; the momentum had switched SO strongly to Arizona because they didn't get the tying run in game 7 off of just any pitcher, but off Mariano Rivera, perhaps the greatest postseason pitcher (not just reliever, pitcher) to ever play the game. Gonzalez's hit was just the nail in the coffin, and the Yankees sat in silence, realizing that their amazing run had come to and end, and that the quest for 4 in a row had ended, but they held themselves like Champions to the end, realizing they didn't lose their crown, no one could take their three straight championships away from them, the Diamondbacks just won one championship their own.

    As for me? I sat in stunned silence in the same spot I'd watched the game, staring into the emptiness of a blank TV that I turned off after the Yankees left the dugout. I sat there for a half hour thinking of the place in history of the Yankees 3 titles in a row; and that cushioned the blow a little. It wasn't until a few days later until I really forgot about how bad the loss had been, remembering instead the three that lead to it, and how great those were. But oh, how painful that game 7 was.

    3.) Yankees vs Indians (1997 ALDS game 4 tie with game 5): It was a two game process. The euphoria of being on the verge of a second straight trip to the ALCS; (That was to be a big thing in the pre-dynasty days, 1996 didn't seem like the start of a dynasty) and the crash of the defense of the 1996 coming to an end the very next night.

    The Yankees were 4 outs from proving yet again how a wildcard team could be very deadly in the short series. First year closer Mariano Rivera (pre-cut fastball...He relied on his high fastball in 96 as a set-up man and 97 as a closer) gave up a game tying home run to Sandy Alomar Jr. The Indians would score the winning run in the 9th to bring the series to a deciding game 5. In that game, rookie Indian pitcher Jaret Wright again beat up on the Yankees, and the game ended with Paul O'Neill stranded on the bases and the Yankees going home.

    At first it was a little frightening wondering how Rivera would bounce back from that homerun to Alomar. But since then he has become the most dominant postseason pitcher ever. Quite an improvement from the first year closer who aimed for strikeouts to the veteran he is now who goes for broken bat groundouts and weak flies; one pitch is an easier out than three.

    4.) Yankees vs Marlins (2003 World Series game 4): Pretty intense game, for a while thought to be Roger Clemens last in the majors. The Yankees trailed by 3 for most of the game, and 3-1 going into the 9th. That was when pinch hitter Ruben Siera hit a two run double and tied the game for the Yankees, seemingly handing them the 9th inning momentum they'd been handed so many times before. Only this time they didn't quite know what to do with it.

    It was Aaron Boone, ALCS hero (although he had a pathetic series) who came to the plate in the 10th with a chance to take the lead on, at the least, a sac fly. Boone's inability to even get the ball out of the infield led to the Yankees resorting to Jeff Weaver. If Boone had driven in the go-ahead run, Rivera would have come in, and he was untouchable last postseason. Weaver survived the bottom of the 10th, but he and the Yankees wouldn't be so lucky in the 11th. Again being furstrated and held scoreless in the top of that inning by Braden Looper, the Yankees came in trying to just hold the Marlins for as long as they could. However, the first batter, Alex Gonzalez, hit a homerun that just barely escaped over the leftfield wall (it wouldn't have been a homerun in Yankee Stadium, perhaps just a fairly deep line out).

    When the ball cleared the wall, the series went from 3-1 and in the Yankees firm grasp (could the Marlins have beaten them 3 in a row with 2 in a row at the Stadium? I don't think so) to tied at 2-2. It was anyone's series. However, it was game 5 that gave the Marlins the hold of the series for good as David Wells's back started spasming and Torre was left bewildered, having used nearly everything he had the night before in the extra inning game. The Yankees would lose game 5 and then the series; but it all turned in game 4 when Aaron Boone couldn't lift the ball out of the infield off Braden Looper.

    It was a painful loss, the kind the Yankees have inflicted on teams so many times over the years. They went from being down and out in the 9th, to having the momentum in extras, to having been better off to never have tied it in the 9th in the first place (the pen would have been fresher for Torre the next night when Wells went down). The series turned in a bad loss for the Yankees; a hard one to swallow.

    5.) Angels vs Yankees (2002 ALDS game 2): A come from behind win from the Angels that materialized during the late innings and would mark the overall frustration of that series. The Yankees held the lead late into the game and then the relentless; wait, wait, wait Angels offense pulled through and won the game, as a young pitcher named Francisco Rodriguez (with help from Ace Closer Troy Percival) held the Yankees high powered, 6 runs per game during that series, offense in check.

    It was more painful and frustrating if taken as a series; the Angels would come back from deficits to win the next two games as well as game 2. During game 3 they just kept coming back, no matter how much the Yankees would punish the Angels starters, the Angels bullpen would hold; while both the Yankees bullpen and starters would not. But game 2 started it all, as it was the last time the Yankees were truly in control during the series. Once they lost that lead, every other lead vanished before it could stand for long enough to matter.

    In retrospect the game was a microcosm of the series, and of the entire postseason for the Angels. The Angels would take the pesky, comeback at all costs ways to the World Series against the San Francisco Giants; and when they were thought to be down and out, down by five runs in game 6, they mounted to take the game and tie the series at 3 games a piece. And in the end they'd win the World Series; and yet it all started in game 2 of the series against the Yankees. That was when the heavily favored Yankees slipped and the Angels saw blood in the water.

    They never looked back the rest of the way, and that was what led to the 2002 World Series Championship for the Anaheim Angels. One would figure that had game 2 stayed in the hands of the Yankees, championship 27 would have been toasted two years ago.

    I'm sure other fans who're older than me will have much better losses to share, but those are mine, for what they're worth. They're recent enough that all of them should be remembered; even the one from way back in...(gasp) 1995; the PRE- Joe Torre era.
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    Top 5 losses

    1) Game 7 2004 ALCS-Enough said.
    2) Game 3 1980 ALCS-Losing to the Kansas City Royals, a team that Yanks had battled with previously. George Brett was to those Yanks what David Ortiz is to them, now.
    3) Game 3, 4, 5, 6 of the 1981 World Series-Two words: George Frazier. If some Yankee fans are bemoaning Mo's last two days, well, go back and watch tape of George Frazier in 1981. Make you cringe.
    4) Game 7 of 1955 World Series-Losing to the hated Dodgers for the first time.
    5) August 2, 1979-Death of Thurman Munson. I was 7 when that happened. Only as I got older do I realize what affect that must have had on his team and especially Jerry Narron, Thurman's replacement their first game back. That team was a two time defending champion and to lose their captain, heart and soul, well, it must have been awful inside that clubhouse. RIP #15

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heathnyy5
    What are your top five worst losses remembered as Yankees fans?
    Well, it's like this:

    1) My grandfather. He was a special guy, and also a big yankee fan -- a big reason i'm a fan.
    2) My grandmother. An angel of a lady, a saint.
    3) My first dog, Scruffy -- not a pleasant animal, but i was very attached
    4) My second dog, Princess -- an incredible and sweet creature, lost her to cancer at 7.5 years old.
    5) My virginity -- it wasn't a great experience, wish i could have a do-over on that one.
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    1. Thurman
    2. Mickey
    3. Billy
    4. Catfish
    5. Games 4-7 of 2004 ALCS

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    Of my lifetime (24 years old):
    1. 2004 ALCS game 7
    2. 2001 WS game 7
    3. 1995 ALDS game 5
    4. 2003 WS game 6
    5. 2004: 22-0 vs Indians (just to be different)

    of all time I'd put 1960 WS game 7, game after Munson died (although I think they won), 1976 World Series sweep, and probably April 30, 1939 (Lou Gehrig didn't play) even though they blew out the Tigers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RhodyYanksFan
    5. 2004: 22-0 vs Indians (just to be different)
    I didn't really feel so terrible over that one. Sure, I wanted to puke by the 5th inning, but the whole game sort of felt like a train wreck... I couldn't look away for some reason. Those are my memories of Vazquez and Loaiza now.

    1) 2001 World Series, Game 7 - No crying in baseball... no crying in baseball...
    2) 2003 World Series, Game 6 - even though I could tell the Yankees weren't going to win the WS, it was so painful to watch the offense succumb to Beckett.
    3) 2004 ALCS - no comment...
    4) 1997 ALDS, Game 5.
    5) 2002 ALDS, Game 2.

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    The worst loss for me will always be game 7 of the 2001 WS. After watching two of the most amazing baseball games of my life, the idea that we would go back to AZ and lose the final two...devastating. It was Mo's first huge defeat (much worse than Cleveland in '97), and the script being written required that the Yanks win that series and have a parade down the Canyon of Heroes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BronxByTheBay
    The worst loss for me will always be game 7 of the 2001 WS. After watching two of the most amazing baseball games of my life, the idea that we would go back to AZ and lose the final two...devastating. It was Mo's first huge defeat (much worse than Cleveland in '97), and the script being written required that the Yanks win that series and have a parade down the Canyon of Heroes.
    I felt nauseous after that game.

    For me, getting swept by KC 3-0 in the 1980 ALCS and losing to LA in the 1981 WS. We had the better team in both years. What a waste of two promising years. From 1977-1981, we could have won 4 of 5.

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    Re: The worst losses as Yankees fans...

    I'm also 19 years old...

    For it's:

    1) Game 7, 2001 World Series
    2) Games 4-7, 2004 ALCS
    3) Game 5, 1997 ALDS
    4) Game 4, 2002 ALDS
    5) Game 5, 1995 ALDS

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    Quote Originally Posted by RIyankee
    I felt nauseous after that game.

    For me, getting swept by KC 3-0 in the 1980 ALCS and losing to LA in the 1981 WS. We had the better team in both years. What a waste of two promising years. From 1977-1981, we could have won 4 of 5.
    How that team didn't win more than two is beyond me. And right after that, George started acting silly and wacky, (silacky), and went after Dave Collins and the like.
    That said....last year was still the worst for me.
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    Re: The worst losses as Yankees fans...

    1. 2001 World Series Game 7
    2. 2004 ALCS Games 4-7
    3. 2003 World Series Games 5 and 6
    4. 2002 ALDS
    5. 2004 22-0 Loss to Cleveland- I don't think I've ever been laughed at so many times in my life as the day after that game.
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    Re: The worst losses as Yankees fans...

    1. Thurman Munson (NOTHING can compare to that)
    2. 2004 ALCS game 7
    3. 2001 WS game 7
    4. 1995 ALDS game 5
    5. Mickey Mantle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meecham4ever
    How that team didn't win more than two is beyond me. And right after that, George started acting silly and wacky, (silacky), and went after Dave Collins and the like.
    That said....last year was still the worst for me.
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    Re: The worst losses as Yankees fans...

    For you older fans and with the benefit of hindsight, the Game 7 loss to StL in the 1964 WS has to rank up there because it marked the start of the most difficult period of Yankee fandom EVER coming right after the greatest period!

    My biggest fear is that forty years later "The Loss That Must Not Be Spoken Of" could conceivably mark the beginning of another tough streak if age/injuries suddenly catch up to this team.
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    1. Games 4-7 in 2004 (to me it is one big loss)
    2. Game 5 of the 1995 ALDS
    3. Game 7 of the 2001 WS
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    1) Game 7 of the 2001 World Series
    2) Game 5 of the 1997 ALDS
    3) Game 2 of the 1998 ALCS (the one w/ the Knoblauch play)
    4) Game 7 of the 2004 ALCS
    5) Game 6 of the 2003 World Series

    Game 7 of the 2004 ALCS should be higher up on that list, especially b/c we wound up winning the 1998 ALCS despite Chuck's brain collapse. But, from 1996-2001, I was a young teenager, and the Yankees were all I cared about. The 1998 team was by far my favorite, it hurt everytime they lost a game. That didn't happen too much. I loved those teams passionately, and it tore me apart when they lost their last game together. I will always love the Yankees, and care about them, but if they lose, my life still has to go on.

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    Re: The worst losses as Yankees fans...

    1) Game 7 WS 2001
    2) Game 7 ALCS 2004
    3) Game 6 WS 1981
    4) Game 5 ALDS 1995
    5) Game 6 WS 2003

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    I'm 21 sooo... My memory is quite limited.

    A "wound" that has not closed and probably never will: Game 7, 2001 WS v. Arizona

    I felt like the world had just ended. It was crushing and just plain brutal. That's my #1, #2, #3, etc... I will never forget that night.
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    Re: The worst losses as Yankees fans...

    Game 4s haven't been the greatest, IMO:

    1. Game 7 - 2001 WS (first by a mile)

    2. Game 5 - 1995 ALDS

    3. Game 4 - 1997 ALDS

    4. Game 4 - 2004 ALCS

    5. Game 5 - 2004 ALCS

    6. Game 4 - 1981 WS

    7. Game 4 - 1995 ALDS

    8. Game 4 - 2003 WS

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    Re: The worst losses as Yankees fans...

    Quote Originally Posted by Heathnyy5

    1.) Yankees vs Mariners (1995 ALDS game 5): Sticks out because I was only 10 at the time. I had never seen the Yankees in the playoffs in my lifetime, and being 9 when it happened, the strike had rolled right off my back. 1994 had been the first time I had checked the standings every day and I remember them being in first when the strike hit; so when the next season started I thought they'd go right back to the top of the league.
    1995 was the most disappointing for me as well. I was very excited about watching the Yankees in the postseason, I even taped Sterling's call when the Yankees clinched the wild card! After they went up 2-0, visions of the Yankees in the ALCS danced through my head... somewhat novel idea back then.

    After the game, I felt like that was their shot and they missed it. Mattingly was retiring, and I thought if they let Showalter go they'd slip back into mediocrity (obviously, I was wrong).

    Watching it all unfold at the Kingdome was tough too.. that crowd was so loud I ended up muting the TV by the end.

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    Re: The worst losses as Yankees fans...

    Here are my picks:

    #1 - Game 5, 1995 ALDS
    #2 - Game 5, 2004 ALCS
    #3 - Game 7, 2004 ALCS
    #4 - Game 7, 2001 WS
    #5 - Game 5, 2003 WS

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    Wow, I posted this almost exactly a year ago, and no one responded until now. I posted this at the beginning of last season, a time when a chant of "1918" still had meaning with Boston fans. I don't think that I could even start a thread now, because I don't think I have enough posts. My list, considering what has happened, seems pretty out of date since that series.

    Anyway, I'm not going to update my list or anything (because everyone else's list has the Red Sox series on it) I just want to say to the person posting the loss of family members, I just hope you don't consider such a list as this one shallow. It is not meant to belittle the losses we've had in real life, just to talk about the ones we've witnessed as sports fan. Losing to Boston is a LOT less painful than losing a loved one. I was 19 when I posted this (so obviously, I'm 20 now) and I had already witnessed the death of my best friend when we were both 15. He was perhaps the biggest Yankees fan I knew, so he would be my biggest loss; but we're talking about games here. If we speak about personal loss, it would just get to be a depressing and upsetting thread.

    As for Yankees losses, sure they stink, but having a team that has won more championships than any other team in North American Sports history makes the painful losses that stick out all the more interesting. If we can remember particular losses through the victories, it means we can still enjoy winning. I for one things a tough loss resonates more than a great victory. A great victory is a relief (or a joy, if the team is the underdog), but the feeling wears off more quickly than that of a tough loss. 1995, 1997, 2001-2004 have some bad memories that hopefully will only make the next World Championship a more enjoyable experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heathnyy5

    Everyone remembers the Yankees for not hitting in that series (and they didn't, which had less to do with Randy Johnson and Curt Schilling than from a genuine slump.

    You can't be serious.

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    1) 22-0
    2) 22-0
    3) 22-0
    4) 22-0
    5) 22-0

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    Re: The worst losses as Yankees fans...

    1.) Game 7 of the '01 WS
    2.) 2004 ALCS
    3.) Game 5 of the '95 ALDS
    4.) Game 5 of the '97 ALDS
    5.) Game 6 of the '03 WS
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    Re: The worst losses as Yankees fans...

    1) Games 4-7 of 2004 ALCS
    2) Games 4-6 of 2003 WS
    3) Games 4-5 of 1995 ALDS
    4) Game 7 2001 WS
    5) Games 3-4 2002 ALDS

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    Quote Originally Posted by This one goes to 11
    You can't be serious.
    Yes, I am serious. When the Yankees (who still had a great lineup, even though it doesn't have anywhere near the power it does today) were getting beaten by Brian Anderson and Miguel Batista, who were holding them to nothing, that shows they were in a huge funk.

    Sure, Schilling and Randy Johnson were amazing, but the 2001 World Series could easily have ended in 5 games, 4 games to 1 for the D-Backs. In that equation, Schilling would win 2 games, RJ 1, and Miguel Batista another. The Yankees couldn't slove anybody except Kim in that series, and to me that shows more about their own lineup than the dominance of Arizona's staff.

    David Justice, Bernie Williams, and many others were colder than ice. It just wasn't going to happen for them, and that was why everyone said the Yankees needed new pop in the lineup, not just because Johnson and Schilling could figure out the Yankees, but because Brian Anderson and Miguel Batista didn't do so bad either.

    But like I said in my post a year ago (and still believe) the Yankees awful offense covered their terrible pitching. Mike Mussina and Andy Pettitte were terrible in two huge games, only Roger Clemens showed consistency. Mussina was out of game 1 by what, the 3rd inning? And Pettitte left game 6 in what, the 2nd? Pettitte even had a chance to CLOSE OUT the D-Backs in game 6, a chance he didn't take advantage of.

    Sure, Johnson was on the mound for Arizona, but I'd be much more sympathetic to Pettitte if he did what he did in 2003, allowing only 2 runs in game 6. Those two runs weren't enough to beat Beckett that night, and they might not have been enough to beat Johnson (who knows how things would have gone if Pettitte had let up 2? Johnson probably would have pitched a complete game 1 hitter or something), but at least they'd have had a shot.

    The next night, even though Schilling went for Arizona, Clemens countered him. He kept them close, and they were able to take the lead. Even though Schilling and Johnson pitched for the D-Backs, their run support in games 1 and 6 was outstanding, and much more than they needed. That series was a terrible one all around for the Yankees. Clemens (if they won) might have been their MVP, or (possibly) Rivera. He blew that save at the end, but prior to that he was one of their only reliable players.

    The hitters couldn't do a THING against anyone not named Kim (they could easily have lost in game 6 at Bank One if Brenly didn't bring Kim out the next night to try and right him, or game 5 at Yankee Stadium if he didn't come out at all). You can't credit RJ and Schilling for Batista and Anderson excelling against a Yankees lineup that was quite similar to the one that was the three-time defending champions.

    That lineup had Soriano, Jeter, Williams, O'Neill, Martinez, Justice, Knoblauch, Brosius, and Posada; which was a lineup good enough for the Yankees to beat the A's with their pitching, and to get past the mighty 116 win Mariners. RJ and Schilling silencing those bats was something that was considered going into the series.

    But the Yankees thought to attack them the same way they STILL try to attack great pitchers: have their star hold them close while they chip away. They knew if they could do that, and win only 2 of 5 games started by that pair, they could win the series as long as their offense could come through against the lesser pitchers.

    However, their offense died against the lesser pitchers in the two games they had a chance (two games they STILL managed to win) and their pitching died in two games against the great pitchers (games 1 and 6). It is incredible to me that the Yankees were in a position to win game 7 during that series. Almost as incredible as them being close to sweeping Boston with a team that had a decimated bullpen, and a staff that had Brown starting game 3 and a dead armed El Duque going in game 4.

    Things came back to bite the Yankees both times. Against Boston, they had won 3 games in a row against Boston as everything went right for them, and everything went wrong for Boston. Then, at the peak of Boston's badluck, Rivera (dead tired from throwing more innings than ever in his career) walked the leadoff hitter, and that lead to everything that followed. Boston's win lead to new confidence and the luck swung around to them.

    With Arizona, they outplayed the Yankees ALL series, and sat facing the bottom of the 9th of game 7, ready to lose. Rivera had dominated them that series (and again, had at that time pitched more innings than ever in his career up to that point; though I'm making no excuses) and they were stunned at the thought of losing a series they had so thoroughly dominated. If they Yankees had won, it would have been like the opposite of the 1960 World Series, when the Yankees destroyed the Pirates in 3 games, lost in 3 close ones, and lost the last close one in game 7 on Mazeroski's homer.

    The fact is, as great as RJ and Schilling were then, the Yankees were utterly dominated. They honestly lost to the better team in that situation, a situation where for once experience couldn't help them get past a team that had more talent.

    Their pitching betrayed them, and their hitters couldn't touch Brian Anderson or Miguel Batista; the dynasty was ripe for the picking. Getting it to game 7 was incredibly impressive, under the circumstances and perhaps in the years that pass we'll realize how amazing it was for the Yankees, battered by age and injuries, to have made it one inning away from a fourth straight World Championship on the strength of their will alone.

    We live in a society that appreciates only the winners and doesn't even remember the losers of championships. However, when the Yankees fell to Arizona it was viewed as Goliath losing to David because of the Yankees track record, when really one superior team managed to just hang on against a team that it should have already beaten.

    As time goes by, despite the fact that we honor winners and forget losers, we should at least realize how amazing our team was between 1996-2001; a team that was so good and so experienced it was almost able to beat a D-Backs team that might have had the best 1-2 punch of all-time with only grit, experience, determination, Clemens and Rivera, and a good amount of luck (call it mystique and aura if you will). That was all they had, and they almost won with it.
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    I'm 20 yrs. old, so for me it would be...

    1. Game 7 of the 2001 WS - I was left speechless.
    2. Games 4-7 of the 2004 ALCS - Nothing needs to be said.
    3. Game 5 of the 1997 ALDS - It was my first year following the team...disappointing end to the season.
    4. Game 6 of the 2003 WS - I didn't even bother watching Posada make the last out...
    5. Games 2-4 of the 2002 ALDS - I live 15 mins. from Angels Stadium...yeah...

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    I agree with the losses put up here so far and I'm only 23 but from talking to my dad and reading a couple of Mickey's books, 1960 aka the Mazeroski walkoff was pretty painful, my dad was listening to the game on the radio in his tractor (yes I'm a hick from Colorado) and turned it off and headed home after Yogi hit the supposed game winning home run only to find out that the weak Pirates offense and Bill Mazeroski of all people had come back and won.

    We outscored them by a huge amount that series and Mickey claims we were way better, but that's baseball I guess. Just thought I'd throw that out there.

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    1) Game 5, '95 ALDS
    2) Not getting to see the '94 Yankees make the playoffs.

    Nothing else is close to those two.
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    Re: The worst losses as Yankees fans...

    Quote Originally Posted by BronxByTheBay
    The worst loss for me will always be game 7 of the 2001 WS. After watching two of the most amazing baseball games of my life, the idea that we would go back to AZ and lose the final two...devastating. It was Mo's first huge defeat (much worse than Cleveland in '97), and the script being written required that the Yanks win that series and have a parade down the Canyon of Heroes.
    Same here. 2004 doesn't compare, Red Sox or no Red Sox.

    I don't obsess on which team it was against. All I know is that we were 3 outs from the world championship in 2001.

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    Re: The worst losses as Yankees fans...

    Quote Originally Posted by BronxByTheBay
    The worst loss for me will always be game 7 of the 2001 WS. After watching two of the most amazing baseball games of my life, the idea that we would go back to AZ and lose the final two...devastating. It was Mo's first huge defeat (much worse than Cleveland in '97), and the script being written required that the Yanks win that series and have a parade down the Canyon of Heroes.
    Same here. 2004 doesn't compare, Red Sox or no Red Sox.

    I don't obsess on which team it was against. All I know is that we were 3 outs, facing the bottom of AZ's lineup, from the world championship in 2001. I thought the game was in the bag, considering we NEVER saw a Mo meltdown like that before, not even in '97. Plus he looked so dominant in the 8th inning of that game and throughout the series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dooley Womack
    Same here. 2004 doesn't compare, Red Sox or no Red Sox.

    I don't obsess on which team it was against. All I know is that we were 3 outs from the world championship in 2001.
    Agreed, Dools. Watching that bloop fall in...I couldn't believe it was all over and we weren't walking away the winners... Oh well...

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    Quote Originally Posted by IncredibleByNature
    Agreed, Dools. Watching that bloop fall in...I couldn't believe it was all over and we weren't walking away the winners... Oh well...
    I swear, Jo, I was in shock for days....as if it was only a dream.

    I remember when Sori put us ahead, and Mo was mowing them down easily in the 8th (3 K's), calling my sis and telling her "it's over!" She remained on the line in the 9th and there was silence on both ends. I felt sick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dooley Womack
    I swear, Jo, I was in shock for days....as if it was only a dream.

    I remember when Sori put us ahead, and Mo was mowing them down easily in the 8th (3 K's), calling my sis and telling her "it's over!" She remained on the line in the 9th and there was silence on both ends. I felt sick.
    I cried that night into my pillow. I have no problem admitting it. It hurt. To have those 3 amazing wins in the Bronx, and not win it all for the city after what had happened in Sept...it was really tough.

    When Sori hit that HR, I was on top of the world. But Mo...*sigh* Total silence after Gonzo dropped that one in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IronCaballo4
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    3) 22-0
    4) 22-0
    5) 22-0

    why? I was there
    So was I, and up until this point I'd forgotten about it. Thanks for reminding me.

    Getting no-hit by six different Astros pitchers was pretty pitiful, as well, though.

    But those were *nothing* compared to the 2004 ALCS. How the hell do you lose a series you're up 3-0?? Six months later, I'm still in shock. Oh, the pain! The pain!!!

    2001 was upsetting, but I don't think I was *as* upset, only because it had been such an incredible playoff run and the way we beat Oakland and then those smug Seattle Mariners into submission, and then those games in the Bronx, we'd done so much already, that even though we lost, I have to look back on that October/November with a smile on my face, because New York had a helluva ride and a helluva reason to be happy again for the first time since the towers went down.
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    I dont see how losing in 2001 could be worse then 2004....I mean i guess we all take things differently but the way I see it....

    2001 we really were severly outplayed in that series....our offense was totally non-existent....the only pitcher we did anything against was Kim....we couldnt even hit Miguel Batista for god sakes....we had 2 miracle comebacks in Games 4 and 5....but we really got outplayed

    and even though Mo did blow the lead in Game 7....we were coming off 3 straight championships in a row....so yeah it sucked that we lost....but you cant win it every year

    2004...we were going on 4 years without a title....THOROUGHLY outplayed the Sox in Games 1-3....our pen blew Games 4 and 5....the man with the bloody sock shut us down in Game 6....then we just didnt even show up for Game 7....up 3-0 in complete control, only to pull the biggest choke job in MLB history and lose 4 in a row....the last 2 coming in your own stadium against your archrivals

    that was sheer torture

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    Re: The worst losses as Yankees fans...

    I won't even bother with 5 of them, because I could get over all the other ones...

    I have but ONE loss

    October 20, 2004...ALCS...Game 7...It is the only playoff game I've ever seen live and can't imagine a worse nightmare in my life. I kept trying to wake myself up so it would end. I was a zombie for days after, I never thought I would live to see those morons celebrate on our field, let alone live to see it LIVE.

    If there was ever a night I wanted to crawl into a hole, that was it. People in my family still blame me for the loss...my nickname at home is PopPop, which is what my grandson calls me and now everyone is calling it PopPop's Curse.

    We even have the official picture of me touching the Babe's monument like Clemens used to,on the night of Game 7. It hangs on all my kid's walls with the words POP POP's CURSE on it...

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    Wow...that 1995 Seattle game - that series is my first lasting memory of the Yankees - Im only 19 now....but I kinda love that fact, right before the big run - that game was pretty depressing - I remember watching and my family just being sooo upset.

    The 2001 WS game 7 - I watched that and a WS special on ESPN, or YES?, a few months ago. My dad came by and looked at me like I was crazy. I told him maybe it would change this time, but it didn't. That was pretty tough. Especially after the comebacks and all.

    I'm not even touching last year's Red Sox games....didn't the rest of the playoffs get canceled after game 3 of the ALCS last year?

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    my top one was 2001 WS. They were putting the champange in the locker room for god sakes! alls i remember is sitting there speechless holding back tears. DID MO JUST DO THAT?? is what i was thinking. never had i seen the yankees lose the WS, after everything ny had been thru and those 2 great games i thought it was meant to be, i guess ti wasnt , it was still the greatest world series i have ever seen.but this years epic collapse is very close, i dont even want to talk about it, because if i do alls i hear is red sox fans running their god damn mouths.
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    Re: The worst losses as Yankees fans...

    1) 2004 ALCS Game 7 (and I was there )
    2) 1995 ALDS Game 5 (we were so close, and I felt so bad for Mattingly)
    3) 1997 ALDS Game 5 (heartbreaker to see O'Neill give his all and get stranded at 2B)
    4) 2001 World Series Game 7 (hey, we had won three in a row, and had two amazing comebacks at home; devastating, but tempered by the recent successes)
    5) 1981 World Series Game 6 (they had won the first two games, but then lost the next 4; I got to go to my first World Series game for Game 6, and cried the whole way home)

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    I realized that this thread was started in April of 2004... and some fool dug it up this season.

    My my, if only we knew then.... still wouldn't've prepared me for last October, though.
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    October 20th 2004. We were never even in the game. It was over before we even batted in the 2nd inning. In boxing, when a guy is being pummelled early, the referee steps in and stops the fight. This doesn't happen in baseball. The Yankees were knocked out in the 2nd inning and then dragged around the field for three hours until Sierra grounded out.

    Plus, we were humiliated by our biggest rival in a loss of historic, epic proportions.

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    1) 2004 ALCS
    2) 1981 WS - my best friend was a Dodger fan - ugh!
    3) 2001 WS
    4) 2003 WS
    5) 1997 DS
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    Re: The worst losses as Yankees fans...

    Quote Originally Posted by RIyankee

    For me, getting swept by KC 3-0 in the 1980 ALCS and losing to LA in the 1981 WS. We had the better team in both years. What a waste of two promising years. From 1977-1981, we could have won 4 of 5.
    I remember '80 and '81 like it was yesterday. It still pisses me off. Besides those two, I'd go with game seven of the 2001 series, the loss to the Mariners in '95, the loss to Cleveland in '97, and the loss to Toronto in the 160th game in '85 that cost the Yankees the division. They won 97 games that year and would have given the Royals a good fight in the AL Championship series.

    People may disagree, but I feel that the postponement of the 1994 season ranks right up there also, because that was the best team Mattingly played on, and the Yankees would have gone to the World Series that year.

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    Re: The worst losses as Yankees fans...

    1. Mickey Mantle
    2. Game 7 2001 World Series
    3. 2004 ALCS
    4. 2003 World Series
    5. 1995 ALDS (I would rank this higher since it was the first time in my life the Yanks made the playoffs but it was followed up by one hell of a run.)



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    Re: The worst losses as Yankees fans...

    1. 1995 ALDS, donnie's last game
    2. 2001 World Series
    3. 2004 ALCS
    4. 1986 Clemens beating Mattingly for MVP
    5. 1997 ALDS

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    From a 29-year-old:

    1. 2001 WS, Game 7. I still have nightmares about that game, to this day. Mo throwing the ball into centerfield, Counsell leaning into the pitch...I wake up in a cold sweat. I have never in my life been more depressed than I was after this game.

    2. 2004 ALCS, Game 4. Even though the Yanks were still up 3-1 after this one, the feeling of dread started. A 4 pitch walk to Kevin Millar? No excuse.

    3. 1995 ALDS, Game 5. Why did you leave McDowell in there, Buck? Why???

    4. 1995 ALDS, Game 4. Oh, that's why.

    5. 10/5/85 vs. Toronto. Shane Cowley can't get out the 3rd inning, and the Blue Jays clinch on the second to last day of the season, ending one of Don Mattingly's best chances to make the playoffs.

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    Re: The worst losses as Yankees fans...

    In no particular order.

    1981 WS
    1995 ALDS
    2001 WS
    2003 WS
    2004 ALCS

    Thurman Munson's death was a big loss too. I was at the game that was played right after the funeral. Bobby Murcer's home run landed two rows in back of me. I can still remember the ball spinning as it went over my head. I was 12.

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    Heath (thread starter), you're a good writer.
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