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    I guess the Rangers were sleeping

    and apparently so was I. Didn't know this happened until today.

    What the hell were they thinking? did they even attempt to get Hatcher? He was exactly what the Rangers needed. eff.

    Hatcher signs five-year, $30M deal

    DETROIT -- The Detroit Red Wings already had the Norris Trophy winner. Now, they've added another top defenseman.

    The Red Wings pried Derian Hatcher away from the rival Dallas Stars on Thursday, adding him to a defensive corps that already features Norris Trophy winners Nicklas Lidstrom and Chris Chelios.

    Lidstrom has been given the Norris, awarded to the NHL's top defenseman, after each of the previous three seasons. Hatcher was a finalist this year.

    The Red Wings signed the unrestricted free agent to a five-year, $30 million contract. The deal doesn't contain a no-trade clause.

    "I'm just ecstatic to be here," Hatcher said. "It would be really special to win a Stanley Cup in the town I grew up in."

    Hatcher, a native of the Detroit suburb of Sterling Heights, captained the Stars to the 1999 Stanley Cup. He has played in 827 regular-season and 100 playoff games in his 12-year career, all with the Stars. That includes 23 postseason games in 1999, when the Stars won their only Stanley Cup.

    "Obviously growing up, I was a Red Wing fan," said Hatcher, whose favorite Detroit player was Gordie Howe.

    The loss of Hatcher is a big blow to the Stars. But Stars owner Tom Hicks told The Dallas Morning News that allowing Hatcher to go to free agency was not a mistake in negotiations.

    A year ago, the Stars offered Hatcher a five-year contract extension in excess of $30 million, but Hatcher turned it down. The Stars then added $15 million to last year's payroll with the addition of several free agents, including Bill Guerin. In making a last-minute counter-offer to Hatcher, the Stars were not willing to sign him to a five-year deal this time, the newspaper reported.

    "I wouldn't call it a mistake," Hicks told the Morning News. "We're disappointed Derian made the decision he did, but the chance to do a long-term deal with Derian was last year, and he turned that down. We're disappointed that we're losing him, but hockey is the ultimate team game, and we have to be able to overcome the impact of losing one player."

    Stars general manager Doug Armstrong said the team still needs to sign forwards Mike Modano and Jere Lehtinen and goaltender Marty Turco to new contracts. That prevented the Stars from matching Detroit's offer to Hatcher.

    "We thought we could handle things going forward over three years, but not over five years," Armstrong told the Morning News.

    The Red Wings' signing of Hatcher came one day after Sergei Fedorov's agent said the star forward, who spent 13 seasons in Detroit, would leave the team via free agency.

    Detroit, a year removed from its third Stanley Cup title since 1997, is in the midst of an uncertain offseason.

    Core players Fedorov, Steve Yzerman and Igor Larionov became unrestricted free agents earlier this week, and the team faces a sticky situation with goalies Dominik Hasek and Curtis Joseph both under contract for next season.

    The signing of the 31-year-old Hatcher certainly will help.

    "I think it's going to be a great addition to our team," Lidstrom said. "That's the kind of defenseman that we need that can play hard and tough like that."

    Last season, the 6-foot-5, 235-pound Hatcher had 30 points (eight goals and 22 assists).

    "He has such a tremendous presence as a defenseman," Red Wings associate coach Barry Smith said. "He competes at such a high level every game and is so hard to play against.

    "We haven't had a defenseman like that since ... Vlady," referring to Vladimir Konstantinov, whose career ended in a limousine crash on June 13, 1997, less than a week after the Red Wings won the Cup.

    The Red Wings have seven defensemen on the roster to fill six positions. Detroit coach Dave Lewis said one possibility is for Hatcher to play alongside fellow 6-foot-5 defenseman Jiri Fischer, who is recovering from a knee injury sustained in November.

    "All of a sudden, it's a lot harder to play against us in our own zone," Lewis said. "You have to respect us more."

    With the NHL's collective bargaining agreement set to expire after next season and uncertainty about what will happen after then, Dallas general manager Doug Armstrong said the team would avoid any long-term deals until those issues are settled.

    Hatcher set career highs with 159 shots and a plus-37 rating last season, helping the Stars to the most points in the Western Conference. Mike Modano was quickly selected to replace Hatcher as the Stars' captain.
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    I wonder if he would have even been interested in coming into the circus that the Rangers have going right now...

    How good is Detriot's defense?

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    Originally posted by bakntime
    I wonder if he would have even been interested in coming into the circus that the Rangers have going right now...

    How good is Detriot's defense?
    The Rangers are a very unattractive option for any hockey player interested in more than just money. Hatcher will still be making big bucks, plus he will be on a team that has a good shot at the Stanley Cup.

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    Originally posted by JfromJersey


    The Rangers are a very unattractive option for any hockey player interested in more than just money. Hatcher will still be making big bucks, plus he will be on a team that has a good shot at the Stanley Cup.
    That's my take on it. Detriot is giving him some pretty good money - let's face it, 30 million isn't chump change - and he'll get a good shot at winning a cup. Seems like a win-win situation (no pun intended).

    The Rangers, on the other hand... It kind of reminds me of the 80's Yankees, and even the early 90's to some extent. Many players wanted to avoid the Bronx at all costs, until they started winning.

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    I don't think anyone is avoiding the Rangers though. No matter how bad they are, it's still a pretty big deal to play in MSG. The money they throw at everyone don't hurt, either.

    My thoughts on Hatcher was that he's a huge Wings fan and it's where he wants to be. I'm just wondering if the Rangers even tried for him. I never heard a thing about it.
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    So were the Isles. They coulda (and shoulda) had Selanne and Kariya. They definitely need an offense upgrade.

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    Originally posted by YankeeNut18
    So were the Isles. They coulda (and shoulda) had Selanne and Kariya. They definitely need an offense upgrade.
    how about a trade. Niniima (sp?) for Bure.
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