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    The O's screw it up again

    Jack Cust was sent back down to the minors. BJ Surhoff will come back up.

    Cust wasn't given a SINGLE plate apperance in his stint with the O's.

    Now, how do you expect to see what a young prospect like this can do if you don't give him time at the plate? Typical bs from that club..
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    A couple of years ago Cust was considered a serious hitting prospect. I don't know if he's performed poorly enough to lose that 'top prospect' label (sounds like he did somewhere along the way) but with the influx of young players the Orioles are playing I don't know why they'd not even take a look at him. From what I heard about him he's a poor defender (his best position is DH) but has the potential to be an impact hitter with power.

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    when was he sent back down? he was just recalled on the 24th! MLB.com doesn't have this up on their site yet...

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    Another brilliant move by that sharp baseball mind, that great humanitarian, that all-around swell guy, Peter Angelos.

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    Cust looked good at Coors.

    Since then he's cooled down enough that he can't make the big club in Baltimore.

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    If he was called up the 24th and sent down today, that is just stupid. What a waste of an option.

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    BJ Surhoff was in the minors?

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    Originally posted by Bern Baby Be
    BJ Surhoff was in the minors?
    I think that he was on a re-hab assignment much like Jeter was.

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    If he was called up the 24th and sent down today, that is just stupid. What a waste of an option.
    That's not how options work. You have several option years. How many times you are sent back and forth doesn't affect anything. Well, except your mood and the costs of flying you back and forth.

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    Originally posted by Jeter&Johnson
    If he was called up the 24th and sent down today, that is just stupid. What a waste of an option.
    Just goes to prove that Syd Thrift was not the only inept bungler in the O's front office. There is more than enough sheer stupidity to go around in Baltimore. It's a shame what Angelos has done to a once proud franchise.
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    Originally posted by Mr. Mxylsplk

    That's not how options work. You have several option years. How many times you are sent back and forth doesn't affect anything. Well, except your mood and the costs of flying you back and forth.
    Doesn't surprise me that I'm wrong. I was under the impression that when you send down a player from your major league club to the minors, and option would be used, and a player has a limited number of options for his entire career. Could you explain how options work then>

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    Originally posted by Jeter&Johnson


    Doesn't surprise me that I'm wrong. I was under the impression that when you send down a player from your major league club to the minors, and option would be used, and a player has a limited number of options for his entire career. Could you explain how options work then>
    This comes up from time to time here, and I never remember, but here's an espn.com article I found. I'm assuming the article is right, but others here may actually know better than the article does, and I'm sure they'll correct whatever is wrong. I've excerpted the relevant part
    http://espn.go.com/mlb/s/transanctionsprimer.html
    "Options"
    After three years as a pro, a player must be protected on a team's 40-man roster, or he is eligible for the Rule 5 draft (more on that later). Once he's served those three years, and assuming he is added to the 40-man roster, his club then has what are called "options" on him.

    When a player is on the 40-man roster but not on the 25-man Major League roster, he is on "optional assignment." One common misconception about the rules is that a player may only be "optioned out" three times. Actually, each player has three option years, and he can be sent up and down as many times as the club chooses within those three seasons.

    When you hear that a player is "out of options," that means he's been on the 40-man roster during three different seasons, beginning with his fourth as a pro, and to be sent down again he'll have to clear waivers (more on those below).

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    I see, that makes much more sense. So Cust most likely hasn't had three years on the 40 man roster yet. If that's the case he must be close, because I'm sure that otherwise he would have been taken as a Rule V draft pick.

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    Originally posted by Jeter&Johnson
    I see, that makes much more sense. So Cust most likely hasn't had three years on the 40 man roster yet. If that's the case he must be close, because I'm sure that otherwise he would have been taken as a Rule V draft pick.
    I'm sure you're right.

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    Baltimore fielded a team this year?

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    i'm not even going to pretend to be surprised by this. the O's are always screwing up something
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    The description above basically states why some clubs don't protect some good prospects at the lower levels of their system. Some pitchers get held back due to injuries, or just plain not developing fast.

    I think it is ridiculous when some people criticize certain teams for not protecting a 21 year old pitcher who hasn't advanced past A ball. That pitcher gets plucked in the rule 5 draft and performs well in the bigs, usually the GM gets roasted for letting talent go. But the fact is, like the piece covered, protecting a young pitcher with 3+ years service time in the low minors is quite dumb, because if they don't advance fast enough, they're out of options by the time you need to use them. It's much easier to try risking not protecting them than to try to sneak them through waivers 3 years later.
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