Nets land Dikembe Mutombo!!!

[Afu-Ra]

Here it is - a big man who played in more than 8 games last season! Keith Van Horn is gone, Mutombo replaces MacCulloch, Richard Jefferson starts next season, and the Nets acquire a big man that Jason Kidd wanted that will persuade him to stay in New Jersey.

http://msn.espn.go.com/nba/news/2002/0806/1414865.html

Sixers deal Mutombo for Van Horn, MacCulloch

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The Associated Press

PHILADELPHIA -- In a major trade involving the past two Eastern Conference champions, the Philadelphia 76ers sent center Dikembe Mutombo to the New Jersey Nets on Tuesday in exchange for Keith Van Horn and Todd MacCulloch, The Associated Press learned.

The deal, confirmed by numerous Eastern Conference officials, represents a major shakeup along the front line for both teams. It was to be officially announced Tuesday evening.

Mutombo, a 7-foot-2 center who led the NBA in rebounding in 1999-00 and 2000-01, was acquired by the 76ers at the trading deadline in 2001 and helped them reach the NBA Finals. He signed a lucrative extension prior to the 2001-02 season and is due to receive almost $54 million over the next three seasons.

Mutombo will play center for New Jersey in place of MacCulloch, who was a teammate of Mutombo's in Philadelphia before signing with the Nets a year ago as a free agent. The center position was a weak spot for the Nets when they reached the NBA Finals in June and were unable to stop Shaquille O'Neal of the Lakers.

Van Horn was chosen by Philadelphia with the overall No. 2 pick in the 1997 draft but was immediately shipped to the Nets in an eight-player trade. He averaged a career-low 14.8 points per game last season and was conspicuously ineffective during several postseason games.

Although the 76ers are giving up one of the game's best defenders and rebounders, they are reacquiring a player who is coming off his best professional season. MacCulloch, a native of Canada, averaged 9.7 points and 6.1 rebounds in 62 games -- missing 20 games because of a foot injury that also will keep him out of the upcoming World Championships.

The addition of Van Horn gives the 76ers another scorer who can -- at least in theory -- take some of the offensive burden off Allen Iverson. Since Iverson was drafted in 1996, the 76ers have tried to use Jerry Stackhouse, Tim Thomas, Larry Hughes, Toni Kukoc and others in that role.

Van Horn, a gifted shooter whose toughness has been questioned, averaged a career-high 21.8 points for New Jersey in 1999. He was among the longest-tenured members of the Nets, who made it to the NBA Finals for the first time in franchise history after joining the league 26 years ago.

Mutombo has spent 11 seasons in the NBA with Denver, Atlanta and Philadelphia, leading the league in blocked shots in 1993-94, 1994-95 and 1995-96 and rebounding in 1999-00 and 2000-01.

Mutombo averaged only 8.8 points in the 76ers' first-round playoff loss to Boston last April.

[yankeegeek]

Terrific move for the Nets!!!!!!! Dek is a very good center. 2nd best in the NBA. He is here for his defense and rebounding, not his shooting. He is a good freethrow shooter if memory serves me correct. The best part of this is that we get rid of Keith(Casper the Friendly Foward) Van Horn!! What is even better is that the we will see alot more of the next star in the NBA Richard Jefferson. He is a terrific defender. A very athletic player that was being called a star in the making by many that saw him last season!

[Afu-Ra]

Top 10 Reasons to watch Nets Basketball this season:

10) Best big man in the Eastern Conference Dikembe Mutombo

9) 55-60 wins

8) Byron Scott gets coach of the year this time around

7) :finger1::finger1::finger1: Dolan, Cablevision

6) Defending Eastern Conference Champions

5) K-Mart + Jefferson = 2 superstars

4) Jason Kidd averaging a triple-double

3) NO VAN HORN!

2) Who else you gonna watch? The Knicks!?

1) Jason Kidd's wife!

[Ansky39]

10 reasons to not give a damn about the nots…

10) Kenyon martin’s a punk

9) Kerry kittles is a beyatch

8) byron still whining about not getting coach of the year

7) Toxic joisey fumes may seep thru tv set

6) They’re from joisey

5) Name changed to New Oisey Nets cuz w/ that lineup they got no j’s

4) If a mutumbo dunks in the swamps of joisey and nobody’s watchin does it really matter

3) On most nights Dikembe Mutombo Mpolondo Mukamba Jean Jacque Wamutombo will have more names than fans in the meadowlands

2) New Joisey who?

1) Enormous size of kidd’s kid’s head may distort picture tube

[yankeegeek]

Ansky-I have been waiting to hear from my favorite Knicks fan. What dissappointment you must have. We have Mount Mutumbo an you hve NO CENTER!!!!! We have it all. Jealousy from a Knicks fan is a terrific way to start the day!

[Ansky39]

Originally posted by yankeegeek
Ansky-I have been waiting to hear from my favorite Knicks fan. What dissappointment you must have. We have Mount Mutumbo an you hve NO CENTER!!!!! We have it all. Jealousy from a Knicks fan is a terrific way to start the day!

i couldn't disappoint ya yg, ya know if i don't reply to a nots thread no one else will... it's like they really don't exist in the real world...

but really i heard about this trade last night and was completely indifferent, just like i was a few years back when philly acq'd mount Dikembe Mutombo Mpolondo Mukamba Jean Jacque Wamutombo in the first place... the guy is grossly overrated on dee, and his o is nonexistent... he'll slow the nots down a bit so that's a good thing from my perspectuve, but he certainly is not the piece to push ya over the top, just ask the sixers..

now the hawks on the other hand have made some nice moves swapping kukoc for robinson along w/ abdur raheim and ratliff they got themselves a real nice front court to complemet terry in the back court...

anyways back to the nots, ya still got kidd, so ya gotta fighters shot, but w/ the loss of van horn, your offense will take a blow as neither martin kidd or jefferson are particulary known for their j, and kittles the poor man's houston is an injury waitin to happen.. imho ya wouldda been better off swappin van horn fer houston... w/ kidd's passin and houston's shot, that wouldda been scary, but what do i know... hope jefferson's the star you think he is, cuz he's gonna have to carry that o on his own...

[Jersey Yankee]

Afu-Ra 'n' Ansky39, are you guys like White Spy and Black Spy on Mad Magazine?

Great show, dudes!!!

[YanksRockMan]

eh...yo nets wont get a good part of this trade


mutombo slows down the game and im glad he left philly. van horn and t-mac expressed interest in returning to philly, and they are young, so good pickup for the sixers.

[Afu-Ra]

Originally posted by YanksRockMan
eh...yo nets wont get a good part of this trade


mutombo slows down the game and im glad he left philly. van horn and t-mac expressed interest in returning to philly, and they are young, so good pickup for the sixers.

Ugh, you gotta be kidding... I guess Van Horn has to be on your team to actually realize how bad he is. I assume you're a 6ers fan and now you're going to see exactly what people like myself and yankeegeek have said about Van Horn.

The man is an all-out 6-10 softie, and that's being generous. He's also locked up at a high price for the next 5 seasons. I can't imagine a 76ers fan honestly being happy with this trade. You could have gotten something better for Mutombo I'm sure. 10 games into the season you'll be calling for Van Horn's head, I promise you that.

[NyMike]

I was going to talk about how I don't think this trade improves the Nets much because Mutumbo is a 43 year old who is quickly going into Patrick Ewing mode, but this guy sums it up perfectly:

http://www.hoopsavenue.com/nba/featu...?feature_id=23


I’m neither a Nets or Sixers fan, but, for some reason, the recent trade of Keith Van Horn and Todd Macculoch for Dikembe Mutombo has riled me up. It has mostly to do with the media’s reaction to the trade. From skimming various media outlets, it actually seems that a great number of people think that the Nets are now an improved team. To me, that thought is ludicrous. Mutombo is a slow, old, immobile, limited center with only a few years left. Sure, Mutombo was third team all-NBA, but that was an absolute crock. This guy plays defense well and rebounds well, but does little else. He’s not even a dominant defensive player anymore because of his limited range. On the other hand, Philly gets a legitimate second scorer and a mediocre center. Nets fans were aggravated with Van Horn and Philly fans will probably be even more aggravated with him, but he will give you some offense.

Even more ludicrous than the notion that the Nets got the better of this trade is that Mutombo will be a better offensive player because of Jason Kidd playing the point. Let’s break this down. Kidd generally gets you the ball by two primary methods: finding the open man on the break and finding the open man after penetrating the defense. We can be pretty certain that Mutombo won’t be running up and down the court with the fast-paced Nets so let’s look at option #2. Kidd will penetrate and draw the defense towards him, leaving Mutombo open. So, he’ll drop the ball off to Mutombo………and then Mutombo takes about five seconds to gather himself, the defense traps him, and you got nothing. That’s the way it was in Philly when Iverson found Mutombo open. Todd Macculoch worked well in New Jersey with Jason Kidd because Mac’s got some good hands and he’s good around the basket. Mutombo isn’t good at either of those things. If I were to rank the Eastern Conference centers, Mutombo would certainly come in somewhere behind Elden Campbell, Alonzo Mourning, and Brad Miller, at the very least.

It’s pretty simple from Philly’s perspective: they got rid of an aging center and acquired a desperately needed second scorer while still remaining competitive at the center position. To me, this looks like highway robbery, but it seems others don’t agree.

[rock]

I think Van Horn will do pretty bad in Philly. He never want to go there the first time around so the fans already don't like him. He's very inconsistent and soft, and Philly fans hate soft players. He'll get ripped by the fans and media. How many shots will he get with Iverson shooting 30 times a game?

Mutumbo is a pretty good addition for the Nets. He's a great rebounder and shot blocker which will help the running game a bit more. He is still in great shape. He adds nothing offensively but if Nets add Rodney Rogers that will help the outside game for the Nets.

[Jersey Yankee]

Originally posted by Ansky39
he'll slow the nots down a bit so that's a good thing from my perspectuve, but he certainly is not the piece to push ya over the top, just ask the sixers..

I'm wondering, were you referring to Mutombo's playing style or the fact that after he'd been traded to Philly, they never won the NBA Finals?

If the former, I don't watch enough, since I stopped watching basketball regularly after Jordan kept winning way too much. If the latter, I'd say you could probably hold Jason Kidd to the same standard too. I don't see anything wrong w/adding someone who's a bona fide center, so perhaps you could elaborate a bit?

Thx.

[#1PaFan]

Originally posted by NyMike


It’s pretty simple from Philly’s perspective: they got rid of an aging center and acquired a desperately needed second scorer while still remaining competitive at the center position. To me, this looks like highway robbery, but it seems others don’t agree.

Exactly!

[Afu-Ra]

Van Horn will not score points with Philly like he did with the Nets. There's a big difference playing on a team whose point guard is pass-first Jason Kidd and a team where Allen "I want to score every single basket of the game" Iverson runs the show.

[#1PaFan]

Originally posted by Afu-Ra
Van Horn will not score points with Philly like he did with the Nets. There's a big difference playing on a team whose point guard is pass-first Jason Kidd and a team where Allen "I want to score every single basket of the game" Iverson runs the show.

True, but at least the Sixers have that other scoring option available now. It's definitely an upgrade for them.

[Yanks4eva1]

Clearly the Nets are serious about continuing to be playoff contenders. I think this was an excellent move. We need Mutombo's rebounding and defense - very pleased with this.

Okay, I admit it. I'm a hypocrite. I've been a Knicks fan, but after Mr. Dolan refused to put the YES network on Cablevision and he ruined my Knicks team - THROWING UNGODLY SUMS OF MONEY AT "b" PLAYERS... &po'd&

I've defected. I love the running game of the Nets. LOVE IT. Jason Kidd is phenomenal, and although Kenyon Martin is a pain in the ass, he can play some ball....

Dee

[Ansky39]

Originally posted by Afu-Ra
Van Horn will not score points with Philly like he did with the Nets. There's a big difference playing on a team whose point guard is pass-first Jason Kidd and a team where Allen "I want to score every single basket of the game" Iverson runs the show.

actually van horn avg'd more points w/ the shoot first exiled and dissed by joisey marbury than he did last seas w/ kidd... the two years marbury played in joisey van horn avg;d 19 and 17 points respectively but w/ kidd he avg'd a career low of only 14 points...

i know, i know, don't let the facts get in the way of a good point...

[Ansky39]

Originally posted by NyMike
I was going to talk about how I don't think this trade improves the Nets much because Mutumbo is a 43 year old who is quickly going into Patrick Ewing mode,

ditto... i went to philly boards and they're rejoicing... not so much at acquirin van horn, but at gettin rid of mutumbo...

[Ansky39]

Originally posted by Jersey Yankee
I'm wondering, were you referring to Mutombo's playing style or the fact that after he'd been traded to Philly, they never won the NBA Finals?

If the former, I don't watch enough, since I stopped watching basketball regularly after Jordan kept winning way too much. If the latter, I'd say you could probably hold Jason Kidd to the same standard too. I don't see anything wrong w/adding someone who's a bona fide center, so perhaps you could elaborate a bit?

Thx.

mutumbo is a 7'2" peice of lard... you'll see soon enough...

[Ansky39]

Originally posted by Yanks4eva1
Clearly the Nets are serious about continuing to be playoff contenders. I think this was an excellent move. We need Mutombo's rebounding and defense - very pleased with this.

Okay, I admit it. I'm a hypocrite. I've been a Knicks fan, but after Mr. Dolan refused to put the YES network on Cablevision and he ruined my Knicks team - THROWING UNGODLY SUMS OF MONEY AT "b" PLAYERS... &po'd&

I've defected. I love the running game of the Nets. LOVE IT. Jason Kidd is phenomenal, and although Kenyon Martin is a pain in the ass, he can play some ball....

Dee

hope you stay w/ yer "new" team once kidd departs...

GO KNICKS!!!!!!

[YanksRockMan]

Originally posted by Afu-Ra


Ugh, you gotta be kidding... I guess Van Horn has to be on your team to actually realize how bad he is. I assume you're a 6ers fan and now you're going to see exactly what people like myself and yankeegeek have said about Van Horn.

The man is an all-out 6-10 softie, and that's being generous. He's also locked up at a high price for the next 5 seasons. I can't imagine a 76ers fan honestly being happy with this trade. You could have gotten something better for Mutombo I'm sure. 10 games into the season you'll be calling for Van Horn's head, I promise you that.

actually..im NOT happy with this, but its fair, i guess

van horn is OK, but i have seen maccolluch before, and he has shown potential.

this will upgrade the offense, but our defense will decline immediately

[Jersey Yankee]

Originally posted by Ansky39
mutumbo is a 7'2" peice of lard... you'll see soon enough...

Sooooooooooo, would you say that piece of lard will take them a little deeper into the playoffs than your Knicks will go this season? Hmmmmmmmm?

As I've mentioned before, I used to follow the Knicks, still have my #33 jersey and shorts, bought from Sports Illus, but since they traded him, Mason and Oak, I haven't had much interest. If not f/one errant finger roll and Starks' missing 22 treys, I think they'd have won some finger-ware.

Then, of course, was Michael Jordan stealing all the rings ... the same way one certain MLB team has stolen most of the rings recently ...

[coalcracker]

Originally posted by Ansky39
. the guy is grossly overrated on dee, and his o is nonexistent... he'll slow the nots down a bit so that's a good thing from my perspectuve, but he certainly is not the piece to push ya over the top, just ask the sixers.. ..

Neither team will be in the NBA finals next year as a result of this trade, but Ansky has the best take on Motombo. As a Sixer fan, I like this trade.

[#1PaFan]

Originally posted by coalcracker



Neither team will be in the NBA finals next year as a result of this trade, but Ansky has the best take on Motombo. As a Sixer fan, I like this trade.

Agree here, too.

[Jersey Yankee]

Ansky39
coalcracker
#1PaFan

If the Nets/Nots make it to the postseason, and the Knicks or 76ers don't (NBA Finals is asking f/too much unless your team is the Lakers), or at least go deeper into the postseason than the Knicks or 76ers, then would I be able to get all 3 of you to concede that it was a good trade?
(I luv playing devil's advocate!!!)

[Stardust]

I'm a Sixers fan, and I like this trade, too. A few things:

-The whole thing about Van Horn not wanting to come to Philly when he was drafted was overblown.

-Van Horn better not appear to be as soft in Philly as he did w/ the Nets. He's now playing alongside the likes of AI, McKie, and Snow-all of whom had multiple injuries during the playoffs two seasons ago when the team made it to the finals.

-The Sixers got younger.

-While the team did give away some defense, they got a shooter. Shooter is the key term, because Iverson would never want to play w/ another scorer, but he has asked in the past that the Sixers get another shooter. (Iverson wants to be the main guy-the one who creates something out of nothing. Van Horn is perfect because he's more willing to just catch a pass and shoot rather than creating a shot for himself like AI.) The Sixers get another option in Van Horn. One of the reasons why AI's shooting percentage is so low, is that his teammates chicken out at shooting the ball, wait til there's like 3 seconds left on the shot clock, dish it to AI who is double/triple teamed, and then of course, AI is going to miss his shot. Now, here's a guy who isn't afraid to take the damn shot. Also, the bench is stacked w/ a lot of defensive-minded guys-the kind that aren't that great but under Larry Brown, look a little bit better.

-Mutombo's contract is no longer with us. While Van Horn is making big bucks and has one more year on his contract than Mutombo, Van Horn is the younger player. At least he'll still be able to start at the end of his contract. Mutombo's play eroded last year, and he'll simply be crawling up and down the court at the end of his contract. And in the event Van Horn does not work out in Philly, it's always easier to move a younger player w/ a big contract than an older one w/ a big contract.

-Stardust

[yankeegeek]

Originally posted by coalcracker



Neither team will be in the NBA finals next year as a result of this trade, but Ansky has the best take on Motombo. As a Sixer fan, I like this trade.

You are in for a long fustrating season with KVH. He is soft as hell. He has no heart. He is inconsistant as hell. You will want his head on a platter soon after the season starts.


The main reason for the trade was to get Richard Jefferson as a starting foward. He is better defensively and will score about 14 to 16 points per game. Dek is noth here for his offense.


You got screwed in this deal.

[Jersey Yankee]

I'm still waiting for some brave soul to stop the intellectual talk and tell me if they think their team will either make the playoffs or at least go deeper into it than did the Nets. If the Nets make the playoffs and the Knicks and/or 76ers don't, or at least go deeper than the Knicks and/or the 76ers, I win.

If the Knicks and/or the 76ers make the playoffs and the Nets don't, or at least go deeper into the playoffs than the Nets, they win. If someone truly believes in their team, let's cut to the chase and lemme know what's gonna happen!!!

[rock]

I'm a Knicks fan but I would be shocked if they did better than the Nets. Knicks seem pretty hopeless. And now they want Mourning? Van Exel? :rolleyes:

[coalcracker]

Originally posted by Jersey Yankee
Ansky39
coalcracker
#1PaFan

If the Nets/Nots make it to the postseason, and the Knicks or 76ers don't (NBA Finals is asking f/too much unless your team is the Lakers), or at least go deeper into the postseason than the Knicks or 76ers, then would I be able to get all 3 of you to concede that it was a good trade?
(I luv playing devil's advocate!!!)

JY, if the Nets/Nuts do better than the Sixers and Knicks, I will concede about the trade, AND send Jim a $25 donation. If you lose, you owe me a - OK?

[Jersey Yankee]

Originally posted by coalcracker
JY, if the Nets/Nuts do better than the Sixers and Knicks, I will concede about the trade, AND send Jim a $25 donation. If you lose, you owe me a - OK?

You got it!!! I'll also send Jim a $25 donation.

I haven't followed hoops recently, but did love it when Ewing was acquired in '85, and did follow his career, and did love the Magic/Michael NBA Finals, including other hoops games, ASGs, finals, etc.

I hope the Knicks do better, but even if the Nets/Nuts/Nots don't get to the Finals, I think that at least Mutumbo helped the 76ers get there in the '00/'01 season. I have no idea who will be great, who will/won't get injured , what will happen, ego clashes, etc, but I think there's a reason why they play the game.

May the best men win, even if they play in the "swamps of Joisey", as my buddy Ansky would likely say!!!

[jojos_2]

I liked Van Horn. Oh well, I really don't care for basketball. As long as the Lakers or Celtics don't win, I'm happy. Go Kings.

[Afu-Ra]

Originally posted by jojos_2
As long as the Lakers or Celtics don't win, I'm happy.

No wonder you don't really care for basketball

[oo]

GO KNICKS

[Ansky39]

Originally posted by oo
GO KNICKS

yeah BABY!!!!!!

[Ansky39]

Originally posted by Jersey Yankee
Sooooooooooo, would you say that piece of lard will take them a little deeper into the playoffs than your Knicks will go this season? Hmmmmmmmm?

actually i'd say kidd will take em further than my knicks again if we do not acquire more quality at the point and center spots... mutumbo imho is a space filler and a cap killer...

Originally posted by Jersey Yankee
As I've mentioned before, I used to follow the Knicks, still have my #33 jersey and shorts, bought from Sports Illus, but since they traded him, Mason and Oak, I haven't had much interest. If not f/one errant finger roll and Starks' missing 22 treys, I think they'd have won some finger-ware.

i just threw my #33 in the wash this weekend... ahh the memories... even though i think he stayed a conract too long, i loved pat... i loved starks and thought he was unfairly ridiculed for that game 7... if it wsn't for him, there wouldn't have been a game 7.... and i also don't blam e pat for stickin w/ his man... ewing shouldda stepped up but c'est la vie... never cared too much for mase, always consideed him a thug in shprts and a ball hog, but i loved oak, he was hte backbone of the knicks, but we traeded him at the right time, and for the right price imho... sniff, sniff, even though we never won it all, at least we got some good memeories outta dem guys...

Originally posted by Jersey Yankee
Then, of course, was Michael Jordan stealing all the rings ... the same way one certain MLB team has stolen most of the rings recently ...

i still hate that man... eff the friggin wizards... &po'd&

[Ansky39]

Originally posted by coalcracker




JY, if the Nets/Nuts do better than the Sixers and Knicks, I will concede about the trade, AND send Jim a $25 donation. If you lose, you owe me a - OK?

i'll double that, even though if they get there imho it'll be because of kidd and jefferson and NOT because of Dikembe Mutombo Mpolondo Mukamba Jean Jacque Wamutombo...

the knicks will surprise ya you'lll see jersey...

bet ya didn't think our new monster center could do this:

[Jersey Yankee]

Kurt, great talkin' ball wit ya, dude!!! I'll have to see what Mutombo actually does. I guess being traded is what ex-greats have been stuck with, just like Olajuwon (who killed both Ewing and Shaq in consecutive years while Jordan batted .200 in Chicago's farm).

Sometimes in sports, a player can get you "thisclose" but can't put it all away. It's like running the table but messing up w/the 8-ball in pool.

[Jersey Yankee]

Mase got busted the day after he was traded f/"Grand-mama" (Larry Walker) to Charlotte, making Checketts look like a genius. Oak was the one who'd dive for the ball. Even though he was a hacker, accused of dirty play, he gave up the body f/the team. Those were the Knicks backcourt and they became vulnerable.

MJ's dayz were w/Bulls, so Wizards are his afterlife, IMO. In red uni, he killed everyone else. Why else didn't Reggie even stand a chance and the Admiral (Mr. Robinson) only got one ring?

[Jersey Yankee]

Originally posted by Ansky39
i'll double that, even though if they get there imho it'll be because of kidd and jefferson and NOT because of Dikembe Mutombo Mpolondo Mukamba Jean Jacque Wamutombo...

the knicks will surprise ya you'lll see jersey...

bet ya didn't think our new monster center could do this:

Gee, I wonder how far the Blue Joisey Nots will do w/Mutombo on board? Hmmmmmmmmmmmm ...

Originally posted by coalcracker
JY, if the Nets/Nuts do better than the Sixers and Knicks, I will concede about the trade, AND send Jim a $25 donation. If you lose, you owe me a - OK?

I guess Jim should be a bit richer about now, wouldn't he?

We'll see how well the rest of the series goes ... and Dikembe shuts down Tim Duncan!!! !!!

[rock]

Nets definitely got the better end of the deal by trading Van Horn. How do they like him down in Philly now?

[Jersey Yankee]

Originally posted by rock
Nets definitely got the better end of the deal by trading Van Horn. How do they like him down in Philly now?

So long as the Spurs, Lakers and Mavs all have 7-footers that can dominate in the Finals, I don't see how the Van Horn fer Mutombo deal was anything other than a no-brainer!!!

[Ansky39]

Originally posted by Jersey Yankee
Gee, I wonder how far the Blue Joisey Nots will do w/Mutombo on board? Hmmmmmmmmmmmm ...I guess Jim should be a bit richer about now, wouldn't he?

We'll see how well the rest of the series goes ... and Dikembe shuts down Tim Duncan!!! !!!

ugh, thanks for throwin a lil more salt in the wound that is my new york knicks joisey...

a great man once said, "i may not always be right, but i'm never in doubt."
-MrJack

I modified it a bit for myself:

"i may never be right, but ................ it, i'm gonna talkk ................ anyways..."
-me


anyways, you gotta admit i was right about one thing the nots got their w/ mutumbo riding the pine... clearly he did not carry them to the finals...

go spurs...

[Jim F.]

/still waiting for Ansky's $25-spot...



-jim

[Ansky39]

Originally posted by Jim F.
/still waiting for Ansky's $25-spot...



-jim

thanks alot blue joisey yankee....

ahh, jim gimme a minute, i'm a lil busy...

p.s. i'll make a pal deposit next pay check pal... (nots suck go spurs... )

[Jersey Yankee]

Originally posted by Ansky39
ugh, thanks for throwin a lil more salt in the wound that is my new york knicks joisey...

a great man once said, "i may not always be right, but i'm never in doubt."
-MrJack

I modified it a bit for myself:

"i may never be right, but ................ it, i'm gonna talkk ................ anyways..."
-me


anyways, you gotta admit i was right about one thing the nots got their w/ mutumbo riding the pine... clearly he did not carry them to the finals...

go spurs...

Hey, dude, what are friends for? Don't think your brutha from Brooklyn who supported Marbury from Coney Island would ever fergit ya, now did ya?
!!!

Yeah, we know that you and talkin' ................ are like a fly and doggie poop. Well, I dont know what Bryon Scott's "raison d'etre" f/leaving him on the pine, but he's not in a pine box, and he did shut down Duncan in Game 2, blocking and swatting away lots from Duncan, The Admiral (Mr Robinson) and anyone else over 6'9". That was a game we were supposed to lose, IMO, but we won!!!

BTW, how's Sprewell's golf game? Like he said about mah boy Ewing, the numbers don't lie!!! (I'll never forgive that newbie SOB f/saying that about Ewing!!!)

If the Nots win it all, you can bring the smilies, the wimmin, the eats, the booze, the smokes and all the excitement. I'll just bring a few water balloons and a pool, so please enjoy the dunk in the drink, and don't let your popcorn get too soggy when you get all wet!!! (yuck, yuck, yuck!!!)

[Jersey Yankee]

Originally posted by Jim F.
/still waiting for Ansky's $25-spot...



-jim

Didn't he say he'd double it? Make 'im pay!!!