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    Just looking through some old baseball cards...question about 1996?

    Why didn't A-Rod win the 1996 AL Rookie of the Year? Jeter won it. Not that I mind Jeter winning it or anything, just wondering. A-Rod had such great rookie stats. Here they are:

    GAMES-146
    AT-BATS-601
    RUNS-141
    HITS-215
    DOUBLES-54
    TRIPLES-1
    HOME RUNS-36
    RBIs-123
    STOLEN BASES-15
    AVERAGE-.358

    Jeter's Rookie Stats

    GAMES-157
    AT-BATS-582
    RUNS-104
    HITS-183
    DOUBLES-25
    TRIPLES-6
    HOME RUNS-10
    RBIs-78
    STOLEN BASES-14
    AVERAGE-.314

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    To hell with all of 'em Chris's Avatar
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    I don;t think A rod was eligible for it. He had over 130 at bats going into the season and as far as I know anything over 130 AB's and you're not eligible.

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    Was A-Rod considered a Rookie in 1996? He did play in 94 and 94, all-be-it 54 and 142 at bats respectivly. Mabye 95 was consdered his rookie season. I'm not sure though.

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    He probably wasn't a rookie. If he had over 142 bats in his carrer before of that then he wouldn't be considered a rookie. Even if he did Jeter got the ring. I mean no matter what they say that ring means something even if they say it don't.

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    Isn't this fit more as a Yankees History post? Oh well.

    I think A-Wad was more fit as a second year player.
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    A-Rod's rookie season was 1995. I don't recall if he won the ROY that year.

    And I believe Nomah's rookie year was 1997.

    I think they came up in order.
    1995: A-Rod
    1996: Jeter
    1997: Nomah
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    Originally posted by Bostonblows4life
    Even if he did Jeter got the ring. I mean no matter what they say that ring means something even if they say it don't.

    This is a rediculous thing to say. Being on the team that wins the WS has nothing to do with the rookie of the year award. If A-Rod had been a rookie in 96, he would have won the award, no question!

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    Originally posted by DiMaggio5CF
    A-Rod's rookie season was 1995. I don't recall if he won the ROY that year.

    It was Marty Cordova

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    Interesting....

    A-Rod COULD NOT be the Rookie of the Year in 1996 when he was 20 years old, because he had too many at-bats in 1995.

    Ichiro COULD be Rookie of the Year in 2001 when he was 28 years old because he only had 7 years experience in the Japanese leagues.

    Isn't there something wrong with this??????

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    Re: Interesting....

    Originally posted by NYY_Lefty
    A-Rod COULD NOT be the Rookie of the Year in 1996 when he was 20 years old, because he had too many at-bats in 1995.

    Ichiro COULD be Rookie of the Year in 2001 when he was 28 years old because he only had 7 years experience in the Japanese leagues.

    Isn't there something wrong with this??????
    Not really. Nobody holds against Major League rookies the time spent in proffesional leagues all across America.

    Granted, they're Minor Leagues, but you;d be hard-pressed to find anyone who would claim that Japanese baseball is equal to our Major Leagues

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    Originally posted by DiMaggio5CF
    I think they came up in order.
    1995: A-Rod
    1996: Jeter
    1997: Nomah
    I think Nomah's rookie year was 1996, and Jeet beat him out.. i'll look it up though.

    edit ; nope.. under 100 ABs for Garciaparra in 1996. Rookie year was 1997.
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    Re: Interesting....

    Originally posted by NYY_Lefty
    A-Rod COULD NOT be the Rookie of the Year in 1996 when he was 20 years old, because he had too many at-bats in 1995.

    Ichiro COULD be Rookie of the Year in 2001 when he was 28 years old because he only had 7 years experience in the Japanese leagues.

    Isn't there something wrong with this??????
    I'm kinda getting tired of this argument. Ichiro played in a league comprable in playing level to AAA. It is as if Soriano played seven years in the minor leagues, and then came up to the big leagues and people say he isnt a rookie. The bottom line is that the Japanese leagues are about as good in play level to minor leagu baseball, and so I believe Ichiro got a well deserved rookie of the year award.

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    Originally posted by Bostonblows4life
    He probably wasn't a rookie. If he had over 142 bats in his carrer before of that then he wouldn't be considered a rookie. Even if he did Jeter got the ring. I mean no matter what they say that ring means something even if they say it don't.
    The MLB awards are voted for before the postseason. So the voters had no idea that the Yankees would win the World Series.

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    The real question is, why didn't Alex Rodriguez win the MVP award in 1996?

    Juan Gonzalez... pah.

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    Originally posted by Elfdood
    The real question is, why didn't Alex Rodriguez win the MVP award in 1996?

    Juan Gonzalez... pah.
    I guess I shouldn't really have been surprised that Ichiro won this year.....

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    Did Nomar win the ROY? I can't remember?

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    Originally posted by derekjeter916
    Did Nomar win the ROY? I can't remember?
    Yes, in 1997

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    Re: Re: Interesting....

    Originally posted by knicksben



    It is as if Soriano played seven years in the minor leagues, and then came up to the big leagues and people say he isnt a rookie. The bottom line is that the Japanese leagues are about as good in play level to minor leagu baseball, and so I believe Ichiro got a well deserved rookie of the year award.
    And how many batting titles would he won then? I don't think an MVP should have batting titles from other leagues, no matter if they are equal to AAA.

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    Re: Re: Re: Interesting....

    Originally posted by deranged2005


    And how many batting titles would he won then? I don't think an MVP should have batting titles from other leagues, no matter if they are equal to AAA.

    They have batting titles in the minor leagues also

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    Re: Re: Re: Re: Interesting....

    Originally posted by Chris



    They have batting titles in the minor leagues also
    And if a guy is the top hitter in the Arizona Fall League, should he then be disqualified from the ROY Award?

    Originally posted by knicksben
    Ichiro played in a league comprable in playing level to AAA. It is as if Soriano played seven years in the minor leagues, and then came up to the big leagues and people say he isnt a rookie. The bottom line is that the Japanese leagues are about as good in play level to minor leagu baseball, and so I believe Ichiro got a well deserved rookie of the year award.
    Absolutely right. The Japanese leagues are similar to the minor leagues here. And Soriano played in Japan, I believe. Should he be disqualified because he played there?

    Ichiro is a rookie. This was his first year in Major League Baseball. He played in a system that was inferior to the MLB and then he came here. Japanese baseball is comparable to the minors and Ichiro is a rookie.
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    For all the anti Ichiro ROY award, remember that the first ever rookie of the year was Jackie Robinson, and he was 28 also and a star in the Negro Leagues before being signed by the Brooklyn Dodgers.

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