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    Love the Yanks? Thank the A's

    This article by Harvey Araton I thought was interesting.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2001/08/12/sp...ll/12ARAT.html


    Cheers to the Yankees, Thanks to the A's

    By HARVEY ARATON

    hat's your favorite baseball
    team, Dad?"

    "You know I grew up in New York
    City, rooting for the Yankees."

    "What's your second-favorite team?"

    "Second favorite? I'd have to say it
    was this team they're playing today,
    the Oakland A's."

    "Oakland? Why Oakland?"

    "Well, first of all, when I was a kid,
    the A's were in Kansas City, where
    they'd moved from Philadelphia.
    They weren't very good, but they
    were like cousins to the Yankees.
    Whenever the Yankees needed a good player to help them win
    the pennant, they'd call up Kansas City, and, presto, just like a
    pizza, the player was delivered."

    "Like who?"

    "Like Roger Maris, who hit 61 home runs in 1961, breaking Babe
    Ruth's record."

    "Why'd the A's just give the Yankees a guy who could hit 61
    home runs?"

    "It was about money. The A's were one of the poorer teams and
    the Yankees, just like now, could afford to pay more good
    players."

    "Did the A's stop giving the Yankees players when they went to
    Oakland?"

    "Actually, for a while, they did. The Oakland A's in the early
    1970's were, in fact, a great team, the best of that decade. They
    won three straight World Series and five straight American
    League West titles. They had an owner named Charles O. Finley
    who was a little nutty but was always willing to try new things,
    like orange baseballs. They had an amazing cast of colorful
    players who wore cool mustaches. They had pitchers named
    Catfish Hunter and Vida Blue, Blue Moon Odom and Rollie
    Fingers. They also had Reggie Jackson, one of the best all-time
    sluggers and bigmouths. Plus, in 1973, they did all of us Yankee
    fans a huge favor by beating the Mets in the World Series."

    "What happened after that?"

    "The Yankees wound up taking Catfish and eventually getting
    Reggie, then they won the World Series."

    "So, even in Oakland, the A's were like the Yankees' cousins, and
    they were lousy again?"

    "For a few years. People stopped going to their games. One
    season, a student-run college radio station had to broadcast the
    games for a while. But, as the A's general manager, Billy Beane,
    told me the other day, `The A's selling off players goes all the
    way back to Connie Mack in Philadelphia, but they have always
    been one of the most innovative franchises in baseball.' By the
    early 1980's, their farm system had produced three really good
    outfielders — Rickey Henderson, Dwayne Murphy and Tony
    Armas. They played the aggressive style, Billyball, of their
    manager, Billy Martin, who had also been with the Yankees. The
    A's made the playoffs but lost to the Yankees and then. . . ."

    "Don't tell me, the Yankees took their best player?"

    "You got it. Henderson eventually joined the Yankees and the
    manager, Martin, rejoined them. But even well into the era when
    players were leaving for the rich teams as well as being traded to
    them, the A's managed to build another excellent team. They had
    the Bash Brothers, Jose Canseco and Mark McGwire."

    "That Mark McGwire?"

    "The very one. He was on the A's team that won three straight
    A.L. pennants and won the 1989 World Series, a Subway Series
    like ours last year. The A's won four straight games over San
    Francisco, which is a bigger, richer, more glamorous city across
    the bay. The A's beating the Giants in the World Series is like the
    Nets beating the Knicks in the N.B.A. finals."

    "You were a sports columnist by then. Did you ever cover the
    Bash Brothers?"

    "As a matter of fact, I covered the first two games of that Bay area
    Series in Oakland. Then, before Game 3 in San Francisco, a huge
    earthquake struck. People died. I was quite lucky that evening. I
    might have been on a double-decker freeway that collapsed had
    a friend not called to pick me up just as I was about to leave my
    hotel in Oakland to drive over to his house in Berkeley."

    "Then what happened?"

    "The Series was delayed for more than a week. I stayed to write
    about the earthquake. The A's best pitcher, Dave Stewart, who
    was from Oakland, gave me a tour of the poor and heavily
    damaged neighborhood he'd grown up in. After that, I always
    rooted for Stewart and didn't mind seeing the A's do well
    because they always seemed to be struggling for fans in a city
    that fell on hard times, and with owners who were losing money.
    The poor A's even had to trade McGwire to St. Louis just before
    he hit 70 home runs. So they traded Maris, who broke Ruth's
    record, and McGwire, who broke Maris's. With all that and
    everything else, the A's, with 14 World Series appearances, are
    the second-most successful A.L. franchise, behind the Yankees."

    "Will they ever keep their players?"

    "As Beane, the general manager, said, `Part of the job description
    in Oakland is the unknown, but, here, the glass is always
    half-full.' The A's have this guy, Jason Giambi, who's a great
    power hitter, and some excellent young pitchers. They almost
    beat the Yankees in the playoffs last season and could very well
    beat them this time in October."

    "Then what?"

    "Giambi will be a free agent after the season. What do you
    think?"

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    classic ... thx!
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    I never thought of it like that, but it's all true. All of it. Great article, thanks for posting.
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    Great article !!!

    I think....

    I think...uuhhhh

    I think Giambi is doing alot of politicing to George already !!!
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    The Kansas city pipeline.

    The core of the Yankees was always the farm system
    But just like today,they always have the knack for timely trades.
    Old Connie Mack sold the Philadelphia Athletics and the franchise moved to KC.The Yankees had a farm team in the old American Association (AAA) the Kansas City Blues,Rizzutto had played with the Blues before being called to the majors in 1941.Hence their was always lots of Yankee fans in this mid west city.
    In the Fifties the Kansas City Athletics earned the reputation as an unofficial Yankees farm team by trading guys like Enos Country Slaughter.Bobby Shantz,Art Ditmar Clete Boyer Ryne Duren Ralph Terry Hector Lopez and Roger Maris to aid the pennant drive
    Some players went back & forth,hence it became known as the Kansas City Shuttle.Guys like Harry Suitcase Simpson,Terry Bob Cerv &Ditmar
    It was quite an arrangement and it helped to keep the dynasty. rolling along.

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    Always liked the A's going back to the early Seventies. Like the colors, moustaches, shoes, attitude, Charlie Finley, and beating the Dodgers in 1974 was great. Liked the white elephant, too, and that goes back to McGraw.



    Great web site for Athletics fans: http://www.philadelphiaathletics.org/

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    Re: The Kansas city pipeline.

    Originally posted by Michaels07
    The Yankees had a farm team in the old American Association (AAA) the Kansas City Blues,Rizzutto had played with the Blues before being called to the majors in 1941.Hence their was always lots of Yankee fans in this mid west city.
    It was against the Blues that Lou Gehrig played his last game... an exhibition between road trips where he made an appearance for about three innings in June of 1939. What that has to do with the topic I don't know, but it just came to me as I was reading this....

    Re: thanking the A's-- I think, if I'm not mistaken, we also got Joe Dugan ('27 3Bman) from the A's, as well.

    But of all the teams to thank, instead of hating them, we should be equally as thankful those guys up in Bahston, who were smart enough, after trading us the Babe, to act as our "farm club" all through the '20s and '30s, not to mention a few key players thereafter.... just think of the list of Yankees who were also Sox....
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