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    Baseball vs. Football....Time to change the national pastime?

    Football is absolutely destroying baseball in terms of popularity. Only the die hard fans will pay attention to baseball over the next month, and the playoffs have been taking a beating for a number of years.

    Putting your postseason on TBS is basically admitting defeat.

    How can baseball regain some of its popularity?

    - Leave the season at 162. (I'd like 150, but hey)

    - All-Star game is based off a complete season and happens AFTER the WS. The league that wins gets some sort of drafting advantage.

    - Start the baseball season sooner and have it end in the last week of August or first week of September?

    - Get rid of inter-league play. (I like inter-league, but hear me out)

    - Once the playoffs start the leagues come together. The teams are ordered by their records. The team with the best records in either league will have a massive home-field advantage. In every series, the team with the better record will be rewarded.

    Example: (Where one team has a better record)

    ALDS: 2 Home / 1 Away / 2 Home
    ACLS: 3 Home / 1 Away / 3 Home
    WS: 2 Home / 2 Away / 3 Home

    When the teams have the same record, the distribution can be more balanced. (Can do this via coin-flip or via All-Star game result)

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    how would these changes increase popularity exactly...?

    also, what does MLB care about popularity per se? they're raking in historic highs in revenue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by delv
    how would these changes increase popularity exactly...?

    also, what does MLB care about popularity per se? they're raking in historic highs in revenue.
    If they don't care about losing younger fans, then so be it.

    More of a....move baseball out of footballs way to increase viewership during the postseason.

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    I can't contain my excitement for March baseball. Or for an exhibition game in November.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellsing
    Football is absolutely destroying baseball in terms of popularity.
    Destroying? NFL is more popular but baseball is nothing to sneeze at, football is hardly destroying baseball.

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    George Carlin suggested putting land mines in the outfield. That would definitely increase viewership ratings.

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    I follow the whoe season, but vary in terms of excitement

    April - Really Excited
    May - Excited
    June - Moderate - Almost to the point where I'm waiting to get to post-all star break baseball
    July - Moderate
    August - Excited
    September - Moderate again, but getting excited since I end up watching football games over the Yankee games on Sundays.
    October - Baseball > Football

    I think the fact that there is a game almost everyday it gets to be dragging.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellsing
    If they don't care about losing younger fans, then so be it.

    More of a....move baseball out of footballs way to increase viewership during the postseason.
    yeah, that part is indeed a problem. I feel like I rarely find people my age with whom I can talk about baseball in depth. instead I end up talking with 40+ yr old guys like y'all. it's really sad.
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    Football has everything going for it right now. It's the perfect game to watch on HDTV, it's once a week and on the day where most people aren't working, is set up the best of any sport for gambling, and it's 3 hours max, perfect for our on demand/short attention span lifestyle.

    Baseball is a beautiful game, but 162 games drag on (some say that's part of the beauty). It's not how our society runs these days.

    As for those proposed changes, it takes MLB about a decade to make any minute changes - you think they're going to do away with leagues in the playoffs? They can't even keep up with Little League in terms of instant replay. That's part of the downfall of baseball. They adhere to the old school rhetoric and traditionalist ideals at the expense of the younger fan.

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    Football is an event played onetime per week. Baseball is played everyday over 6 months. So ofcourse it popularity is going to be condensed.

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    Lets just say I'll be watching the Jets vs. Ravens tonight.

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    Baseball could use more violence, a faster pace (maybe go to 2 strike/3 ball counts?) and simplified lines for betting. Those things alone would help out a lot. Of course you'd ruin it, but hey, those are the costs of chasing the fickle bitchgoddess called "popularity"
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    Unless you play baseball once a week for 16 weeks there's nothing you can really do. Can you imagine the hype over Yankee games if they only played 16 times a year?
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    Baseball is broken and needs to be fixed..................too many rich teams and and many more poor teams...........

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    What baseball needs is more kids playing the sport.

    Unfortunately, unlike basketball and football (association and American), we need a pretty big field to even have bases to run to have any semblance of a real baseball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by montrealer
    Baseball is broken and needs to be fixed..................too many rich teams and and many more poor teams...........
    I agree, the fourth place New York Mets and the third place Boston Red Sox need a lot of help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mjdlight
    I agree, the fourth place New York Mets and the third place Boston Red Sox need a lot of help.
    don't forget the Cubs and their .436 winning percentage.

    If you scale the 32 teams by payroll, and if the season ended today, the following teams would makeup the playoff brackets:

    #1 - AL East
    #4 - NL East
    #9 - NL West or WC
    #13 - AL Central
    #19 - AL WC
    #21 - NL Central
    #26 - NL West or WC
    #29 - AL West


    looks like a pretty even distribution to me
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    Quote Originally Posted by grizy
    What baseball needs is more kids playing the sport.

    Unfortunately, unlike basketball and football (association and American), we need a pretty big field to even have bases to run to have any semblance of a real baseball.
    Baseball is easier and cheaper to play as a kid than football and their fields are roughly the same size.

    I think we're heading to a tipping point where parents won't let their kids play football because of all the info coming out about head injuries - nevermind the proof of it seen in many retired NFL players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RhodyYanksFan
    Football has everything going for it right now. It's the perfect game to watch on HDTV, it's once a week and on the day where most people aren't working, is set up the best of any sport for gambling, and it's 3 hours max, perfect for our on demand/short attention span lifestyle.

    Baseball is a beautiful game, but 162 games drag on (some say that's part of the beauty). It's not how our society runs these days.

    As for those proposed changes, it takes MLB about a decade to make any minute changes - you think they're going to do away with leagues in the playoffs? They can't even keep up with Little League in terms of instant replay. That's part of the downfall of baseball. They adhere to the old school rhetoric and traditionalist ideals at the expense of the younger fan.
    True, but not true enough.

    I would add that these social changes ("these days," "on demand," "short attention span") point to social deficiencies, aspects of cultural decline that ought not to be encouraged or imitated.

    I remember the NFL's rise to popularity in the late 1950s / early 1960s. Before that, "pro football" was for obsessives not burned out by Saturday's college games. The NFL represented in those days some element of celebratory violence--"red dogging," "blitzing," etc.--that spoke to something in a newly-forming segment of the American national temperament that has now become, over generational time, dominant.

    It got connected, too, with some sort of corporational ethos (businessmen who enjoyed thinking that they, too, "red dogged" their opponents?).

    Baseball, a more pastoral kind of game, more temporally relaxed, no longer was at the heart of America's spirit life. With each decade, things got worse for it. Television covered the whole football field better than it did the whole baseball field. Baseball had no one at its helm comparable to Pete Rozelle, who seemed to have sprung (fully armed) from that new social class that was promoting FB, and that was slightly more in love with (the sight of) violence and fast pace than earlier generations of Americans.

    To adapt--or attempt to adapt (who knows whether it's even possible?)--baseball to this new society is to risk vulgarizing it (cultural slumming). Hell, people bring their wretched cell phones even to baseball games, rather than taking the game's pastoral setting as the excuse pastoral has always offered to get away from the day-to-day world. (You can see them texting away or calling away if you have HD and watch the guys in expensive seats at Yankee games. It gives me nausea.)

    In any case, as other posters have noted, baseball is not doing badly at all. FB's is a compressed season that intensifies interest, whereas baseball's is an extended, day in-day-out season (rising in the Spring, dying in mid-autumn), that permits interest to wax and wane, even in serious fans.

    If I were baseball--given its reasonably sturdy financial basis (it ain't hockey!)--I would ride out the storm. Nothing is forever, Carmella once told Tony Soprano. Not even cultural styles, not even general cohorts. Or: this too may pass, and the culture may come back to the baseball that is in its very bones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thaa
    If I were baseball--given its reasonably sturdy financial basis (it ain't hockey!).
    Dude, hockey's HUGE.

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    For starters, I'm not sure how any of these things "increase fan popularity." How would cutting interleague play boost interest? If anything, it hurts it, like it or not.

    And give a drafting advantage to the league that wins the All-Star game. That's worse than the already ridiculous WS Home Field advantage tie in (and again has nothing to do with popularity... in fact, I'd be pissed and I imagine quite a few more would be.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRNXBMRS
    Football is an event played onetime per week. Baseball is played everyday over 6 months. So ofcourse it popularity is going to be condensed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by montrealer
    Baseball is broken and needs to be fixed..................too many rich teams and and many more poor teams...........
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    I agree that changes are necessary for baseball to hold its status as our national pasttime. I think that making the season 154 games and ending it in september would allow for the playoffs and WS to be finished much earlier than the present and perhaps even occasionally having day/night doubleheaders in the summer would even shorten the season further. However, I doubt that the owners would go for this and the powerful players union would also reject this. I also think that all games should somehow be shown by the major networks and perhaps even some played in the late afternoon rather than all at night. Baseball is more popular than its ever been and needs smart business people running it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Mxylsplk
    Dude, hockey's HUGE.
    Well, "Dude," it depends. All I ever hear in Toronto (where it is "HUGE") is moaning about its economic failures in the US of A (including tv failures).

    If it were restricted to the old NHL sites (including those in the US), it would be kinda big, but not of NBA, NFL or MLB dimensions. To hear Canadians--who are knowledgeable about hockey-as-business--talk, it's not huge. It's certainly hugely extended across North America, hell right out into semi-tropical and desert areas where ice is something you get in a glass with your bourbon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thaa
    Well, "Dude," it depends. All I ever hear in Toronto (where it is "HUGE") is moaning about its economic failures in the US of A (including tv failures).

    If it were restricted to the old NHL sites (including those in the US), it would be kinda big, but not of NBA, NFL or MLB dimensions. To hear Canadians--who are knowledgeable about hockey-as-business--talk, it's not huge. It's certainly hugely extended across North America, hell right out into semi-tropical and desert areas where ice is something you get in a glass with your bourbon.
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    Re: Baseball vs. Football....Time to change the national pastime?

    NFL is a show, MLB is a game. Comparing them is like comparing apple and orange IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thaa
    Well, "Dude," it depends. All I ever hear in Toronto (where it is "HUGE") is moaning about its economic failures in the US of A (including tv failures).

    If it were restricted to the old NHL sites (including those in the US), it would be kinda big, but not of NBA, NFL or MLB dimensions. To hear Canadians--who are knowledgeable about hockey-as-business--talk, it's not huge. It's certainly hugely extended across North America, hell right out into semi-tropical and desert areas where ice is something you get in a glass with your bourbon.
    Relax, it was a reference to a highly intellectual discussion in another thread.

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    I cant watch Football ... starts and stops too much. Whistle, Offsides,
    6 commercials, whistle, touchdown. Offsides. I can live without that.

    Theres a distinct beauty to Baseball that i cannot live without. Its called
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    Football is great when there is no baseball to watch. It's a great fill-in between baseball and college basketball. Watching 22 fat guys stand around between 5 minutes of commercials is not exciting, IMO.

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    Re: Baseball vs. Football....Time to change the national pastime?

    I get baseballed out by September and football provides a good distraction. I really got into football in 1979 and it's becoming more of an event for me than baseball is. I don't have the time for six games a week anymore and I'd almost rather watch a football game than a baseball game. If your team goes deep into the playoffs, you have a few weeks between that and the start of ST.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BRNXBMRS
    Football is an event played onetime per week. Baseball is played everyday over 6 months. So ofcourse it popularity is going to be condensed.
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    people like football for all the wrong rea$on$

    gambling is a big reason why people watch football, and its schedule helps with the convenience.

    MLB is bringing in revenue and thats what matters. If baseball was popular but not financially successful then revenue would be down and it would be difficult to keep a float.

    football is just more convenient for people, non fans can check in once a week to a game and be equally as informed as someone else. But its not a "better" sport than baseball.
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    Let's see how popular the NFL is next year when the owners lockout the players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roblyo33
    Football is great when there is no baseball to watch. It's a great fill-in between baseball and college basketball. Watching 22 fat guys stand around between 5 minutes of commercials is not exciting, IMO.
    key word here.

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    I wish football didn't exist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DEADSOX
    I wish football didn't exist.
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    I wish people would stop comparing sports, only reason why people bring it up is cause seasons overlap. Baseball ends when football begins, Basketball begins when Baseball postseason begins etc..
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    When my sports talk listening/watching days was WFAN and local cable, I hated the other sports because when I was looking for the latest rumors involving the Yanks in the off-season it would be a football Friday or they'd be talking about the Knicks. Thanks to the MLB Network on TV and having XM the other sports don't bother me in the least. It's all personal preference but I believe if baseball were played one day a week and then an event that could be bet on with those slips and also the Vegas lines, it would have a lot more viewers than it currently does.
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    Yeah don't be jealous of other sports. Personally I don't like that you have to wait 7 days in between football games. I can't get attached to any team because it would drive me crazy having to wait that long and having to withstand non-stop commentary, just play already. Baseball is great because if you stink it up you can redeem yourself the next day. On the flip side, there's no way I can watch/listen to 162 games straight, every once in a while I need to take a breather.

    Baseball may be less popular than Football but it's not going anywhere. Why do we care it's it's not x billions of dollars in revenue? The only reason to want crazy numbers is to drive up the cost for fans and line the pockets of the owners. I'm happy where things are

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    Didn't MLB bring in more revenue than the NFL last year? And the NFL is in a little more trouble than people think, there's 11 teams in danger if being blacked out in their home market due to poor ticket sales.

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    one word...gambling

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    Quote Originally Posted by TierReservedCreature
    Didn't MLB bring in more revenue than the NFL last year? And the NFL is in a little more trouble than people think, there's 11 teams in danger if being blacked out in their home market due to poor ticket sales.
    That's sort of a paradox, because the NFL has never been more popular on TV, yet people can't afford to go to as many games. Teams have either priced out the average fan or the local economy has made pro football a luxury. Why spend $500 for a family of 4 when you can save a couple of games and watch from an HDTV set from the comfort of your own home

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    Quote Originally Posted by TierReservedCreature
    Didn't MLB bring in more revenue than the NFL last year?
    No, NFL revenue was considerably more, $8 bil in 2009 compared to $6.6 bil for mlb. Revenue also grew more in the NFL last year than in mlb. However the most recent valuations done by Forbes (which surely must be taken with several grains of salt), had an aggregate decrease of 2% in NFL team values compared to a 2% increase for mlb team values.

    Of course, years of posts by bobby jr should convince all of us that if the NFL moves forward without a salary cap, it's business will surely crumble in ways we can't even begin to imagine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delv
    yeah, that part is indeed a problem. I feel like I rarely find people my age with whom I can talk about baseball in depth. instead I end up talking with 40+ yr old guys like y'all. it's really sad.
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    Damn it, Rizzo.

    Quote Originally Posted by GordonGecko
    Yeah don't be jealous of other sports. Personally I don't like that you have to wait 7 days in between football games. I can't get attached to any team because it would drive me crazy having to wait that long and having to withstand non-stop commentary, just play already. Baseball is great because if you stink it up you can redeem yourself the next day. On the flip side, there's no way I can watch/listen to 162 games straight, every once in a while I need to take a breather.

    Baseball may be less popular than Football but it's not going anywhere. Why do we care it's it's not x billions of dollars in revenue? The only reason to want crazy numbers is to drive up the cost for fans and line the pockets of the owners. I'm happy where things are
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    In baseball, the other team has it's chance, you can't kill the clock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thaa
    True, but not true enough.

    I would add that these social changes ("these days," "on demand," "short attention span") point to social deficiencies, aspects of cultural decline that ought not to be encouraged or imitated.

    I remember the NFL's rise to popularity in the late 1950s / early 1960s. Before that, "pro football" was for obsessives not burned out by Saturday's college games. The NFL represented in those days some element of celebratory violence--"red dogging," "blitzing," etc.--that spoke to something in a newly-forming segment of the American national temperament that has now become, over generational time, dominant.

    It got connected, too, with some sort of corporational ethos (businessmen who enjoyed thinking that they, too, "red dogged" their opponents?).

    Baseball, a more pastoral kind of game, more temporally relaxed, no longer was at the heart of America's spirit life. With each decade, things got worse for it. Television covered the whole football field better than it did the whole baseball field. Baseball had no one at its helm comparable to Pete Rozelle, who seemed to have sprung (fully armed) from that new social class that was promoting FB, and that was slightly more in love with (the sight of) violence and fast pace than earlier generations of Americans.

    To adapt--or attempt to adapt (who knows whether it's even possible?)--baseball to this new society is to risk vulgarizing it (cultural slumming). Hell, people bring their wretched cell phones even to baseball games, rather than taking the game's pastoral setting as the excuse pastoral has always offered to get away from the day-to-day world. (You can see them texting away or calling away if you have HD and watch the guys in expensive seats at Yankee games. It gives me nausea.)

    In any case, as other posters have noted, baseball is not doing badly at all. FB's is a compressed season that intensifies interest, whereas baseball's is an extended, day in-day-out season (rising in the Spring, dying in mid-autumn), that permits interest to wax and wane, even in serious fans.

    If I were baseball--given its reasonably sturdy financial basis (it ain't hockey!)--I would ride out the storm. Nothing is forever, Carmella once told Tony Soprano. Not even cultural styles, not even general cohorts. Or: this too may pass, and the culture may come back to the baseball that is in its very bones.
    Bill Simmons had another take on generational chasms and MLB, which also strikes me as dead on:

    "There isn't a single baseball star who could have gotten a 4 rating for switching teams, much less a 9 rating like LeBron did. Right now, Derek Jeter and Alex Rodriguez are the only mainstream famous baseball players. That's the list. And they're a combined 71 years old. My goofy take on this: The narcissism, chest-pounding and me-first mentality of stars in other sports has, perhaps unfairly, made baseball players seem boring as hell. You respect The Code in baseball. You play the game. You don't show people up. You win respect by proving you're about the team. Just look at what happened to poor A-Rod in New York -- within eight years, they drummed out every interesting quality he had. It's like listening to a robot. I am just happy to be a Yankee. I just want to win. Please recharge my battery; I am running low.

    Hell, even when George Steinbrenner died, the ensuing coverage reminded us of that gloriously crazy era in the '70s and '80s when players wrote tell-all books and ripped teammates, drunk managers fought drunk pitchers in hotel bars, players swapped wives, superstars made quotes like "I'm the straw that stirs the drink," owners derisively called their best player "Mr. May" and hired convicted felons to frame them, pitchers beaned guys just for sport, guys took 26-second home run trots, teams had bench-clearers five times per year and everything else that made baseball so much fun. Now, it's all about RESPECTING THE GAME, MAN! Which is fine. And noble. And a better example for my young son. But still, how can you stand out in 2010's Look At Me Society when you're competing with stuff like "Do you realize the Bengals have two wide receivers with their own VH1 reality shows?" and "Chris Bosh and Dwyane Wade are now shopping their documentary about the 2010 free-agency period?" It's the Look At Me/Instant Gratification/Twitter/Snooki/Lady Gaga generation ... and poor baseball fits in about as well as Bud Selig at a Drake concert."

    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2...simmons/100729

    And like your view on MLB bucking today's "On Demand" culture, I'm glad MLB is bucking the "YouTwitFace"/endless and shameless narcissism culture as well. Even if its costing the game some popularity.
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    Baseball is easier and cheaper to play as a kid than football and their fields are roughly the same size.

    I think we're heading to a tipping point where parents won't let their kids play football because of all the info coming out about head injuries - nevermind the proof of it seen in many retired NFL players.
    Great point! One of the players on our school's HS football team cannot taste or smell anything anymore; the students mentioned that the doctor says that because of all the concussions he had, he would spend the rest of his life like that. Sad.

    I was watching our junior high football game last night and got to thinking, this really isn't all that exciting or all that it's cracked up to be. If you think of it, an ongoing running attack with the occasional pass for 40 minutes is pretty dull.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mjdlight
    Bill Simmons had another take on generational chasms and MLB, which also strikes me as dead on:

    "There isn't a single baseball star who could have gotten a 4 rating for switching teams, much less a 9 rating like LeBron did. Right now, Derek Jeter and Alex Rodriguez are the only mainstream famous baseball players. That's the list. And they're a combined 71 years old. My goofy take on this: The narcissism, chest-pounding and me-first mentality of stars in other sports has, perhaps unfairly, made baseball players seem boring as hell. You respect The Code in baseball. You play the game. You don't show people up. You win respect by proving you're about the team. Just look at what happened to poor A-Rod in New York -- within eight years, they drummed out every interesting quality he had. It's like listening to a robot. I am just happy to be a Yankee. I just want to win. Please recharge my battery; I am running low.

    Hell, even when George Steinbrenner died, the ensuing coverage reminded us of that gloriously crazy era in the '70s and '80s when players wrote tell-all books and ripped teammates, drunk managers fought drunk pitchers in hotel bars, players swapped wives, superstars made quotes like "I'm the straw that stirs the drink," owners derisively called their best player "Mr. May" and hired convicted felons to frame them, pitchers beaned guys just for sport, guys took 26-second home run trots, teams had bench-clearers five times per year and everything else that made baseball so much fun. Now, it's all about RESPECTING THE GAME, MAN! Which is fine. And noble. And a better example for my young son. But still, how can you stand out in 2010's Look At Me Society when you're competing with stuff like "Do you realize the Bengals have two wide receivers with their own VH1 reality shows?" and "Chris Bosh and Dwyane Wade are now shopping their documentary about the 2010 free-agency period?" It's the Look At Me/Instant Gratification/Twitter/Snooki/Lady Gaga generation ... and poor baseball fits in about as well as Bud Selig at a Drake concert."

    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2...simmons/100729

    And like your view on MLB bucking today's "On Demand" culture, I'm glad MLB is bucking the "YouTwitFace"/endless and shameless narcissism culture as well. Even if its costing the game some popularity.
    Wow, I completely agree with Simmons and your analysis. It's great to see that baseball is separating itself from the crowd; to me that is one of the things that make the sport so great!
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