Come on Yankees, claw your way back. Let's go.
Come on Yankees, claw your way back. Let's go.
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Well, he is still living a bit of that awsome start but once hitters saw what he was doing he has struggled a lot. I would say that he is a 4.50 ERA pitcher at this point who doesnt give you lenght.Originally Posted by Yankee Tripper
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I remember watching Hughes in Trenton and he had a devastating curve ball, who know what happened.
"Jesus Montero is a stud," one evaluator wrote in an e-mail. "One of the best young hitters I've ever seen, period."
His stuff looks great, actually. He's just seemingly incapable of mixing pitches effectively. I don't know if it's a strategy to come out throwing all FB's and then changing it up as he moves through the order 2 and 3 times, but you have to be prepared change the game plan within an AB.
Yeah, thats why you dont move starters with 3 + pitches to the pen where they only use 1 or at the most 2.
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2009 Yankees win this game... come on!
fair enough, I can't really argue with that
Baseball is life;
the rest is just details.
Great? High velocity yes.
But he is not getting any swings and misses of the fastball and all of his curves were out of the zone except one to Bautista where he got lucky he didnt crush it.
I hope you are right about the gameplan but he should have made some adjustments after seeing how no one swung and missed off his first 15 fastballs.
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I like Marcus
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the rest is just details.
Whatever, he used the curveball in the pen. And Hughes maybe helped win the World Series last year in the pen. i think blaming management on Hughes getting worse at throwing his curveball is kind of silly, why would it not be on Phil to execute his own pitch that he came up throwing
Thames is the best signing Cashman has made in years...more so than any star because Thames wasnt expected to be as good as this.
"Owning the Yankees," Steinbrenner once said, "is like owning the Mona Lisa."
Velocity and break, his FB has been superb. The problem is that he is throwing only that pitch, and they are timing it. He only threw 2 curveballs, and got an out with one of them.
Can we clone Marcus Thames too?
"Don't Give Up...Don't Ever Give Up." - Jimmy Valvano
One must know pain to be a hero.
I dont agree with that. Guys have gone to the pen to find themselves at the start of their careers plenty of times....the issue is when you are tossed back and forth.
"Owning the Yankees," Steinbrenner once said, "is like owning the Mona Lisa."
probably why they have the most come from behind wins in t he majors this year
Baseball is life;
the rest is just details.
Fair enough, Im not saying his fastball is bad because it isnt, its great but yeah if you dont get any breaking stuff in there for strikes hitters will sit on it.
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Everybody is pretty moany today, this team is 30 games over .500. The jays are tough on the road, and the yankees arent on a super hot streak, but damn, maybe dont give up 20 minutes into the game
So do the 2010 Yankees...thats how they have the best record in the League.
"Owning the Yankees," Steinbrenner once said, "is like owning the Mona Lisa."
Whats the explanation for the dissapearence of Hughes curveball then?
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Yanks are 15-5 in thier last 20 games v lefites. Cecil is a good young pitcher but if Phil settles down I think the Yanks get to him.
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the rest is just details.
Yep, that's pretty much it.
He's sucking at throwing it, on his own. Such things happen, its called not executing. He threw it in the pen, it wasnt like they cast an amnesia spell on him
Yeah, dont mistaken by dissapointment in Hughes that 1st inning as a sign of throwing in the towel, that "2009 Yankees will win this game" comment was one of the dumbest things I have read in a while.
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a brett Gardner single
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the rest is just details.
Yes, exactly the guy we want at the plate with the bases loaded.
That was in my Johnny from Major League II ego.
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One must know pain to be a hero.
No chance.
He threw it in the pen but when you are in the pen you might use your curveball 3-4 times per outing and comapared to starting in the long run you are really not using it enough and you could lose the feel for it since its a feel pitch.
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edwardo going yard right here would be so cool...
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the rest is just details.
It happens to the best of them. As the seaosn goes along, your stuff can tend to get a little flat....If I had to guess, I reckon it wont happen as drastically next season.
"Owning the Yankees," Steinbrenner once said, "is like owning the Mona Lisa."
Lame.
That's one of the worst at bats I've ever seen....Eduardo Nunez... should go back to AAA
a weak grounder to the pitcher, no so cool
I still think Cecil is in for trouble in the game
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the rest is just details.
I don't think Nunez has really formulated a plan up there yet.
Yeah he has... swing at everything
You got to give Nunez props, not many can make Pena look like the better offensive player.
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Thats ridiculous. I guess David Robertson is eventually going to lose the feel for his curveball in the pen
Come on, Phil just needs to throw it better. The world isn't conspiring against him
I see what you're saying but signings have to be judged in the context in which they were made. Too many people heap praise when a guy turns out better than expected (like Aaron Small) and bash the GM when a signing which was originally a good one turns out to be bad because the guy doesn't perform.
except it wasn't a good pitch last year for him either. or, honestly, the year before.
frankly it hasn't been the plus pitch that helped him attain what his prospect status was since 2006 and, while I don't like all blame shifting that happens whenever a young player underperforms, the team did play with his arm angle/release point and grip after that year for some reason and he's really never gotten the quality back all the way since. it's probably fair to wonder if team actually did botch something here.
Doesnt Robertson throw his curve like 40% of the time? I think Phil threw his cutter and fastball almost 80% of the time from the pen, I dont feel like looking it up now but comparing Hughes and Robertsons use of the curve from the pen is not a good comparsion IMO.
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Now, we see this: changeup to Overbay. He's pitching to scouting reports too heavily I think. Overbay is slain by the changeup. Hughes has fed them to him every time they play the Jays. But to no one else. This needs to change, and he needs to broaden his approach to everyone.
Agreed, a good change would make him an ace IMO
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Come on, put them away!
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The scouting report also says that you have to pitch away to Bautista, and that's what Hughes did and forced a weak flyout. Why wouldn't you listen to a scouting report?
good change or good curve, either way a 3rd pitch would make him awfuly tough
Baseball is life;
the rest is just details.
You can't be serious. So the team should protect phil against his own propensity to throw the curveball 2 less times per outing... or something... Im sure Phil could throw it in side sessions or warming up. I have never heard anyone make this kind of a weird argument before. He just has to execute at some point
Moving him to the pen eventually helped them win the world series and has been an important starting point for the careers of mutiple successful starting pitchers in the past. If Phil lost his curveball, its because he's doing something wrong (I guess either himself or some mechanical change made ages ago)
11 pitches to A. Eff. Hill ???!?
The Yankees are now 206-1 when Mariano has been asked to protect a four-run lead.
True but thats how everything is judged, isnt it. By the end result....especially on a now now now now team like we have.
Seattle 3 - 0 Boston
"Owning the Yankees," Steinbrenner once said, "is like owning the Mona Lisa."
can't put batters away
0-2... lets see if he can put him away
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