GCL first game
Sanchez 2-4, 2B, 2RBI, 2SO
Culver 1-4, R, 2SB
Flores 1-2, BB
Pena 0-1, 2BB
GCL first game
Sanchez 2-4, 2B, 2RBI, 2SO
Culver 1-4, R, 2SB
Flores 1-2, BB
Pena 0-1, 2BB
I thought I read him and Banuelos are staying in Tampa the rest of the year.Originally Posted by NYCrusader
Matsui, I agree with your point, and had in fact considered it while writing my post, I think there is a lot more to consider about this new development. First, no matter what level you are discussing good pitching, will overcome bad offense. Bad defense can negate good pitching. Great offense too. A few stars and a buch of middling prospects often leads to these kinds of W-L records. Lastly, these young guys are just getting their feet wet in pro ball, and many are very young, so we could see a turnaround in the next year or two. I am not bothered by this development, but I think it should be watched closely for bottom line results. I esxpect BA and company to see the glass as half full.
On second thought, half to completely empty.
At the beginning of Staten Island's season, I noted that this was one of the weaker teams I remember the Yankees fielding in the Short Season leagues in some time. Part of that was because guys like Heathcott and Murphy, who were supposed to be in Staten Island, performed so well in their tune-up in Charleston, that it could not be justified to send them back. Part of it is because so many of the top draft picks remain unsigned. Part of it is due to injuries moving people either up or to the DL. I also think the 2008 draft has caught up to them to an extent in failing to sign Cole and others. Heathcott and Murphy would have been HUGE additions to that team, though Charleston would be weaker.
That being said, I think there are some outstanding prospects on each of the lower level teams. I have a list of players from each team that I follow daily to see how they are performing. I consider these guys for the most part to be solid prospects with potential Major League futures, though some are just personal favorites. As I look at it, it seems that there are some good prospects to watch, but just not as many nor is the supporting cast as strong, with each team. Outside of Sanchez, there isn't anyone having the huge year either. Think to last year where Medchill and Mack were the big surprises on SI's team and have come back to earth this year, though both have stepped it up recently. Those types of performances aren't there, nor is the dominating pitching, which is much younger than past season. Lots of combinations for sure as to why the teams are less talented, but there are still plenty of players to follow who could have a future in NY.
GREAT to see Sanchez back in the lineup ... and didn't miss a beat !!
Culver getting comfortable ??
I think yes.
GCL second game
Sanchez 0-3, SO
Culver 2-3, R, HR, RBI
Flores 0-3, SO
Peno, 0-1
You did not think. You ACTUALLY read.
Newman said that explicitly about Betances. But that doesn't mean they won't reevaluate and send Dellin to Trenton to close the season.
"I see Jesus Montero as a potential once-in-a-generation force on offense."
Not a chance.
sanchez finished 1-4 with a 2B, Culver 3-4 HR
its really nice that quite a few of our offensive prospects are up the middle guys
"Montero hasn't delivered completely on his raw power, but he's close to projecting as an 80 hitter with 80 power on the 20-80 scouting scale"-BA
Yeah, you've been so dead-on in your brief time here.
EDIT: You're the same guy who said Brackman could be the Yankees 5th starter out of Spring training next year:
Talk about "not a chance."
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"I see Jesus Montero as a potential once-in-a-generation force on offense."
GCL second game (Final)
Sanchez 1-4, R, 2B, 2RBI, SO
Culver 3-4, 2R, HR, RBI
Flores 1-4, SO
Pena 1-2, RBI
Just a quick poll here, would anyone NOT have Betances in their top five in the Yankees system right now? Heck I admit I was totally wrong on him at the start of the season, he might be 2nd for me now.
Montero and Romine are the clear-cut 1-2 and then I guess any order of Heathcott, Banuelos, Brackman, Betances, Jose Ramirez and possibly Sanchez couldn't go wrong. Personally, I'd probably go. The lack of innings and constant injuries really kill Betances for me, but he, Heathcott, and Sanchez are my three favorites.
1. Montero
2. Romine
3. Banuelos
4. Ramirez
5. Brackman
But hey, that's just me.
By the way, does Betances go to the AFL this year?
Now I hate that list. 1 and 2 are obvious and then there's six guys who could really go in almost any order. I have no idea.
Just curious - why does Brackman deserve to be ahead of Betances? Betances has dominated a level like Brackman never has, is two years younger and only one level behind.
culver beginning to heat up?
oy vey
probably more like normalizing, luck adjusted line (not including today) was .292/.356/.387 .743 OPS
"Montero hasn't delivered completely on his raw power, but he's close to projecting as an 80 hitter with 80 power on the 20-80 scouting scale"-BA
that's a nice contact and discipline rate at that age and experience
oy vey
Montero
Romine
Sanchez
Banuelos
Betances
so yea, i can see him in top 5
I slide him in at number 6.
Because after the Tommy John Brackman has shown that he can pitch through now 1.5 seasons injury free. Just my opinion.
If Betances is still going the same way he is now this time next year I think you could make the case he slides ahead of Romine but I'd like to wait and see first.
Also, Brackman has thrown 100 innings in each of the past two seasons while Betances hasn't thrown 100 in either.
However, with all of that said, Brackman's results really need to start trending upwards soon. I'm willing to give him this season but it'd be really nice if he gets off to a good start next year.
nice list,
Yeah now that I think about it... I'd have to go
1. Montero
2. Romine
3. Banuelos
4. Betances
5. Brackman
Just my own opinion.
Laird with a double in his first AB tonight
clear, concise, correct
This is my exact list as well.
Possible Yankee Killer B's here?
I'd be cool with that for now, but I won't be surprised when Betances passes Banuelos next year
"Trade a player a year too early rather than a year too late" -- Branch Rickey
Kind of neat that Sanchez and Heathcott aren't even listed. We've got a deep system for sure. I think Sanchez could be a legit 2 next year, assuming Montero is promoted.
Our system has certainly had more B- or higher than it has had in the past. The amount of C prospects has gone down a lot from last year mainly because they have either done well and moved their grade up or because they have performed poorly and they are hardly a prospect.
I am having a lot of trouble grading players this year. I am so used to giving the max of 10 grades of B- or higher out to the Yankees in the past (with it rarely being that high, but they are seemingly easily going to exceed that.
Austin Romine, Manuel Banuelos, Jesus Montero, Jose Ramirez, Dellin Betances, Graham Stoneburner, Andrew Brackman, Slade Heathcott, Gary Sanchez, Corban Joseph, David Phelps, David Adams
Those 12 seem to be near impossible to give a lower grade than that to.
Adams possibly because of the injury, but he is doing so well.
Slade is struggling, but has such a nice ceiling.
If Joseph struggles at a new level.
Phelps has a low ceiling.
Sanchez is so far away
Those are the only 5 arguments I can see for not ranking one of those players as at least a B-. I disagree with all of them, but someone can take their opinion. I just want to give the arguments.
After that Nova, Laird, Nunez, Noesi, Warren, Murphy, and McAllister can be considered. McAllister and Murphy have stuggled a lot this year and seem like pretty clear C+'s to me. The other 5 I will not argue for or against just yet, but it does show the depth we have.
Corban Joseph (AA debut) : 2-3 3B 2B 2RBI 2R
"Jesus Montero is a stud," one evaluator wrote in an e-mail. "One of the best young hitters I've ever seen, period."
Banuelos has been hurt most of the year and last year was pretty close to Betances 08.
I'd take a 6'8 guy touching 98 all day long over a 5'11 guy hitting low 90's. (even if he is left handed) All young pitchers get hurt, it goes with the territory.
If a prospect can do it once, he can repeat it. Once he can repeat greatness enough, he's no longer a prospect.
Of course, I like em both.
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Never argue with an idiot. They'll bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.
Eh, I'm a huge Joseph fan. I've always ranked my favorites probably higher than they should, but I do have a nice track record. Gardner, Montero, Romine and Banuelos I always seemed to overslot compared to others.
I always have rose colored glasses, because for the past three years I've seen all these poor rankings of the Yankees farm. And I wonder what the heck am I missing. I see all these Red Sox players with high rankings and compare them to Yankee prospects and wonder what the heck these so called guru's are talking about.
I saw an article today about Lars Anderson and a couple of other prospects and its talking about how great these guys are, then when you look at the stats .263-12-53 and they are highly mediocre if not awful.
I come here and see folks saying a guy touching 98 with dominant performances will make him a top 50-100 prospect. Of course he will by BA, because they can't have more than 1 top 50 player be a Yankee. Then if they trade him, he'll immediately be a top 10 player.
So I'm going to continue to live in my little world. I know the Yanks have some REAL GOOD prospects. Maybe not a top 15 draft pick, because they never draft that high, but some real good prospects none the less. And they are certainly top 10 talent wise overall due to a tremendous amount of depth. Not as much as I would like because of how they've backed off signing IFA's the past year and a half, but still quite a bit.
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Never argue with an idiot. They'll bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.
Don't sleep on Bleich!
I'm ok with Banuelos ahead of Brackman because his missed time had nothing to do with throwing. I like Betances more than both for his combination of tools and demonstrated dominance (when healthy).
Killer Bs: Betances, Banuelos, Brackman, Bleich
Montero 1-2
Romine 0-2, RBI, SO
Heathcott 0-3, R, BB, SO
Sosa 0-0, R, 2BB, SB
De Leon 1-3, R, 2B, RBI
By the way, am I the only one that thinks Dave Miley, the manager at SWB, needs to learn how to put a line up together?
He's had Nunez hitting 3rd all year with his .730 OPS. While he has one of Miranda, Laird, Vasquez and Montero hitting 7th with their .800+ OPS. Montero's being the worst, but hitting great lately.
Then he has Huffman and his .338 OBP hitting second.
I'd have something more like:
1 or 2. Nunez (leads the team with 21 steals and has the highest OBP of all but the sluggers)
1 or 2. Whoever is hot or getting on base now. Russo?
3. Montero
4. Miranda
5. Laird
6. Vasquez
I might even bat one of the sluggers 2nd just to get them more at bats.
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Jesus
Romine
Manny
Gary
Dellin
i think he had montero hitting cleanup at the beginning of the year, but after he got off to such a sluggish start, i think it was a mandate from up-top to start hitting the real prospects lower in the lineup so as not to place too much pressure on them
still, i agree that nunez at 3 is a little bit of a headscratcher
Laird: 2-3 2-2B 2RBI R
"Jesus Montero is a stud," one evaluator wrote in an e-mail. "One of the best young hitters I've ever seen, period."
laird struck out once. demote him.
oy vey
I had to go through seven pages of bickering to see some damn stats.
"My office is at Yankee stadium. Yes, dreams do come true."
- Derek Jeter
Melky Mesa 4-5, 2B, 2 RBI
June OPS .936
July OPS .989
1.000 for 3 August games
Kind of amusing how boom or bust he is. 15-30, 4 HR in his last 6 games, but that includes an 0-6, 4 K performance.
Don't tease me, you know what I do for a living.
hubba hubba... september callup fosho
Two AAA games, Laird: 6-8, 2-2B, 2-HR, 4 RBI.
Not a bad start, you might say...
"My office is at Yankee stadium. Yes, dreams do come true."
- Derek Jeter
it's all downhill from here
I think Suttle is going to be next year's Laird. Just have a feeling about that guy as he gets ABs and farther from his surgery.
Killer Bs: Betances, Banuelos, Brackman, Bleich
He heated up in July. Hopefully he continues that over into August.
Possibly his 2 best months since he's been in the system. Surely his best streak since we've had him. Like it was noted by others earlier, maybe he is finally getting it.
Maybe.
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