I thought you had to start FA being over the cap...could be wrong though.Originally Posted by bcom33
I thought you had to start FA being over the cap...could be wrong though.Originally Posted by bcom33
It's like LeBron 'Pauper' James quit on the stool in Games 2, 4, 5 and 6 in that series against the Boston Celtics.Originally Posted by ny
"Don't Give Up...Don't Ever Give Up." - Jimmy Valvano
One must know pain to be a hero.
Its funny this comes up. This isnt revisionist history...it was said by MANY in the playoffs thread at the time....that there was something "off" about how James was playing. He seemed passive. Unwilling to take games over like he did all season. Almost as if he was just going thru the motions. He had a big 4th quarter in Game 1, and huge 1st half in Game 6. The other games? He was just "there". It was an odd performance...and it was pointed out by many when it was happening.Originally Posted by ny
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I'm giving credit to Boston's defense. It wasn't all Lechoke's fault.Originally Posted by dabomb2045
It's going to be hard enough for this guy to attract players to Cleveland - this stuff really isn't going to help him make people want to play there. He needs to move on.Originally Posted by dabomb2045
"Trade a player a year too early rather than a year too late" -- Branch Rickey
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/colum...8&sportCat=nba
My thought exactly.
http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wiresto...1122814&page=1
The King?
Of what, exactly?
Hype? Wasting time? Stacking the deck?
Check, check and double-check.
So LeBron James is going to Miami. Man, did he ever pick the right place to win. Just don't forget why people say to be careful what you wish for.
Because when James finally does win it all, chances are good he will be as much a follower as a leader, a bigger, better, badder version of Scottie Pippen, another prince who collected a fistful of rings yet was never really cut out to be king.
He could do worse, of course. The shame is James could have done better.
A real king would have dug in his heels in Cleveland and redoubled his effort to patch the cracks in the foundation of a franchise that's already spent more than seven seasons and hundreds of millions trying to build him a throne. That's what Michael Jordan, Larry Bird, Magic Johnson and Kobe Bryant did. Maybe even give the Cavs a hometown discount, taking less money than he was worth to free up cap space down the road, the way Tim Duncan did.
Not LeBron.
He's lighting out for South Beach to hang with superfriends Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh, while the rest of us recover from an hour-long infomercial that was conceived and choreographed by his advisers, then aided and abetted by ESPN. The announcement was expected to draw in audiences rivaling Tiger Woods' apology and the O.J. verdict — the two biggest non-sports sports stories ever. And just like those two, James is probably the only guy coming out of it who actually believed what he was saying.
Russian billionaire and new Nets owner Mikhail Prokhorov may not be an NBA insider yet, but he already knows how the game is played off the court. Getting in what is among the first of a thousand expected digs at the move, he predicted even before the announcement that joining the bona fide All-Stars awaiting James in Miami would "diminish his brand."
Orlando Magic coach Stan Van Gundy was even more pointed.
"Come on, an hour long? OK, it takes 15 seconds to say, 'I've decided to stay in Cleveland.' But we've got another 59 minutes and 45 seconds to, what, promote LeBron James? As if," Van Gundy told the local newspaper, "we don't do that enough"
Frankly, that's about all anybody remotely connected to the NBA did for the last two years. Attention hound that he's become, James milked every last drop. He wore a New York Yankees hat to a playoff game against the Indians in Cleveland and a Dallas Cowboys cap to a Browns' season opener.
James said that he'll always consider Akron home, which is convenient, since he also has it's area code, 330, tattooed on another part of his hide. But outside his house, he's likely to be viewed with the same kind of disdain that northeast Ohioans reserved for Art Modell, the NFL owner who ripped the Browns franchise out of Cleveland and ran all the way to Baltimore with it.
"You simply don't deserve this kind of cowardly betrayal," Cavs owner Dan Gilbert said in an open letter to fans on the team's website. He went on to guarantee the Cavaliers would win a championship before James did: "You can take it to the bank."
Maybe it hurts more because James is one of their own, maybe the best athlete most of them will ever see, and now even he doesn't want to be there.
Some king he turned out to be.
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How do you know he played everyone? What if Chris Bosh actually would have gone to Cleveland? I don't think LeBron knew what he was going to do until a few other things played out.Originally Posted by dabomb2045
Was the TV show ridiculous? Without question. But that was as much ESPN's doing as it was LeBron's. LeBron is being very unfairly villified, and I'm having trouble comprehending it. He was a free agent, and went through the process of finding a place to play. What's wrong with that?
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If he wanted to go to Miami....and join up with his superfriends...then fine. I think this was their plan all along, and the rumors of it being hatched in Beijing during the Olympics was probably accurate.Originally Posted by ZYanksRule
If so...then he should have just made his intentions clear from the beginning. "I want to play with Bosh and Wade and do it in Miami". Thats just being respectful...especially to a group of fans in Cleveland that worshipped the ground you walked on. Dont drag everyone thru this stupid dog and pony show, and leave the Cavs and their fans twisting in the wind. He basically just took a collective dump on the city during this whole process, and then kicked them in the balls for good measure with his contrived reality TV-esque ESPN "special".
I dont wanna hear anymore crap about him telling everyone he wants to be an immortal or a global icon. Jordan would have never ran away and hid, neither would have Kobe. They would have built their own team and tried to beat Wade. We didnt seen Jordan run away and hide in a cocoon behind Magic in LA, Bird in Boston, Isiah in Detroit or Clyde in Portland. He didnt give up when he couldnt beat Detroit....and decide to join them. He lost to them three straight years in the playoffs--but he just worked to better himself and his team. Cant have your cake and eat it too.....if he wants to be a Pippen and be a #2 behind Wade and win rings that way...then fine. Dont then try to con everyone in the process by making himself out to be bigger then the game.
This will totally blow up in his face too because he isnt gonna win in Miami. It takes more then 3 guys to win. By not seeing that, it disparages what great role players like Grant, Rodman, Kukoc, Harper, Paxson did for Chicago....what Horry, Fisher, Shaw etc did for LA in the 2000s, or what Cooper, Rambis, Scott etc. did for LA in the 80s.
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Well......Miami is going to be "Must watch TV"....say what you want but this is going to be the most watched team this year.
Other than that team on the west coast.Originally Posted by montrealer
The funny thing will be the celebrities who now become Heat fans. Cant wait to see T.O on the sidelines trying to get in on the action like he did in 2004.
"Owning the Yankees," Steinbrenner once said, "is like owning the Mona Lisa."
Well said.Originally Posted by dabomb2045
"When white belts want to learn jiu jitsu they go to a black belt. When black belts want to learn jiu jitsu they go to John Danaher."
If you want to read epic coverage of the show, check out Buzz Bissinger's twitter feed starting about 24 hours ago.
He wrote a book about Lebron and knows him fairly well. It's just awesome.
http://twitter.com/buzzbissinger
Mo' Nut: One Smoove Brotha.
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Kobe is going to drop 50 on the Heat. He's the one guy in the NBA who I think is going to really take the challengeOriginally Posted by b_joseph
"Trade a player a year too early rather than a year too late" -- Branch Rickey
Kobe might be the biggest winner in all of this. Nobody hates him anymore....everyone's attention and hatred will be focused on the "superfriends" in Miami. The Lakers are suddenly the good guys and Kobe is all of a sudden the guy who everyone will hope to "save us" from the Heat winning.Originally Posted by Yankee Fan in Boston
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Please......Kobe and the Lakers are still trash..............Originally Posted by dabomb2045
I have no problem with James wanting to go to a situation that gives him a better chance to win a ring. Any pro athelete who says it's not important is lying. I also don't have a problem with him waiting to see what happened with his buddies. It was common knowledge that there was a good chance he'd played his last season in Cleveland, but the fans still had hopes he'd stay.Originally Posted by ZYanksRule
The way he chose to say "good-bye" - intentional or not - stuck a knife in the stomach of Cavs fans. He twisted it by making not only those fans, but others in NY, Miami and Chicago sit in front of a TV for a prime time announcement, hanging on to a thread. He did not wake up yesterday morning and decide, "I'm going to Miami." He owed the Cavs the courtesy of revealing his decision before he went on national TV. He owed that courtesy to the other teams who rolled out the red carpet and pulled out all the stops to convince him to sign.
Then, on top of that circus, there's an hour long farce on ESPN, which he claimed the proceeds from that show would go to the Boys & Girls Clubs of America. Please, spare me the theatrics. Write a check. He makes more money in one day than most of us see in one year. What kind of message do you thinks this whole sorry act sends to young, impressionable kids who worship The King?
I heard part of his statement this morning on Mike & Mike. He said that fans in Cleveland watched him grow from an 18 year old boy to a 25 year old man. Well, a real man wouldn't have taken the back door out of town. He would have faced Cleveland fans with a press conference announcing his decision. Then, he if still wanted to go on ESPN for an hour, answer questions and ask for donations for his charity of choice - fine.
I hope when he returns for that first game against his former team that he gets all the HEAT he deserves.
September 28, 2008 - the day the HOF got a wake-up Moose call.
Some king its pretty obvious he quit on his team in that series. If I was a cavs player I would be more than pissed. It won't be long until one of them calls him out for that now that he's gone and I wouldn't be surprised to see some hard fouls when they meet up. Not going to say I didn't want him on Knicks but after that tank job i rather have carmello.Originally Posted by dabomb2045
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Because?Originally Posted by montrealer
"Owning the Yankees," Steinbrenner once said, "is like owning the Mona Lisa."

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baske...-ratings_N.htmLeBron James' TV show The Decision played to 7.3% of U.S. television homes, according to early ratings from ESPN, making the sit-down program in which he revealed his next NBA stop the network's top-rated non-NFL show of 2010.
The program ran from 9-10:15 p.m. ET, with the most viewers tuned in from 9:15-9:30 (9.6%) when James said he was heading to Miami's South Beach to team with Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh, both of whom said Wednesday they're going to play for the Heat next season.
Based on the overnight ratings in 56 cities, the James telecast was the highest-rated program of the night on both cable and broadcast TV, according to ESPN.
The top three local markets were Cleveland (26.0 ); Columbus (14.2) and Miami (12.8). Chicago ranked sixth with a 10.7 and New York ranked seventh at 10.4.
Last night's telecast — from the Boys and Girls Club in Greenwich, Conn. — exceeded the audience for ESPN's interview with Tiger Woods in March, which posted a 0.4 rating. It also trumped ESPN's interview with Alex Rodriguez in 2009.
There was more than TV, as fans followed the James saga through other media outlets. ESPN says the decision attracted more than 300,000 unique viewers on ESPN3.com, one of the largest audiences ever for a non-World Cup match.
Pretty sad how all of Cleveland and surrounding areas were glued to their TV sets hoping they wouldn't get played the way they were.
So for those of you wondering why people from Seattle wouldn't ever root for the Thunder? Well, it's the exact same reason why people from Cleveland will never root for LeBron.
Holy crap it's going to be fun rooting against this team.
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I say we stomp him! Then we tattoo him! Then we hang him! And then we kill him!
I say we let him go.
Oh my goodness...did they really just introduce the players like that?
After these 6 years, I cant wait for the Heat to be in the lottery again. But I really cant wait to kick their behinds next June.
"Owning the Yankees," Steinbrenner once said, "is like owning the Mona Lisa."
We're all with you on this one bjoseph. Go Lakers!! (never thought I'd ever say that in my life lol)Originally Posted by b_joseph
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i'd never say that in my life. go knicksss
oy vey
I have to say it because the Lakers might be our only chance to stop the evil trio in Miami. Operation Stop Miami has commenced.
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maybe they'll both lose in the conference finals and we get okc vs orlando
oy vey
As a Knicks fan, I hate the fact that the Heat have arguably the best trio in NBA history. But as an NBA fan, it's going to be a hell of a lot of fun to watch. With some of the best bigs in the L moving to the East in the past few years, it looks like the power has shifted back to the East.
The Heat will be nasty, but I think w/ the Bulls pickup of Korver, the best front court in the east, and the improvement of Rose, they will be side by side w/ the Heat all season for the best record.
I also say the power shift is back in the East.
The Boston Celtics, Orlando Magic, Chicago Bulls, Miami Heat...that's a fearsome foursome.
The West? Besides the L.A. Lakers, maybe Jamie's nemesis the Oklahoma City Thunder could challenge them.
"Don't Give Up...Don't Ever Give Up." - Jimmy Valvano
One must know pain to be a hero.
The new Miami Heat trio sign six-year deals for $15 million less
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5368003
"Don't Give Up...Don't Ever Give Up." - Jimmy Valvano
One must know pain to be a hero.
Kind of reminds me of the NBA in the 1990s when the NBA power shift went the Eastern Conference's way with mostly the Bulls, Pacers and Knicks leading the charge.Originally Posted by chanman7483
"Don't Give Up...Don't Ever Give Up." - Jimmy Valvano
One must know pain to be a hero.
A Heat-Thunder final may cause my head to implode.Originally Posted by BroadwayBomber55
That introduction was almost surreal. Man do I hate this team.
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LOL nice video. They really are the nWo of the NBA. I wonder if after they win games...will they beat up the opposing players and spraypaint "Heat" on their backs while giving the Wolfpac sign?
This really is like something out of a WWE storyline. Its what they call in wrestling a "double turn". The former popular crowd favorite, who "fought the good fight" and tried to win on his own, turned his back on his loyal fans (apparently giving up after realizing he didnt have what it took to win on his own)....and joined forces with a former champion looking to reclaim glory (Wade) and a good player who was stuck in basketball purgatory and is now also looking to make a name for himself (Bosh). These three arrogant and evil ones, now full fledged heels...are now looking to take control of the league, dominate and annihilate everyone in their paths...and do it in "their way".
Meanwhile the former villain out West, a proven champion and winner, is now being looked to by the people that were betrayed and the people who are simply disgusted by the arrogance of this trio who think they will easily dominate the league. The common fans are looking to this former villian (and his teammates) to "save everyone" from this evil, diabolical trio....and keep order restored in the league. This champion also wants to put these three in their place, and remind them who has 5 championship rings on his fingers. This former heel is now looked at as the babyface, the guy the fans now have a newfound respect for after seeing the way the evil trio (esp James) has handled themselves the past few weeks.
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Its funny....just brought up the nWo. While reading Bill Simmons latest article....and he compared what LeBron did to the famous Hogan heel turn in 1996 when he formed the nWo.
The similarities are rather amusing. Here's the video. You can close your eyes...and envision James talking.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H76DwHgOwpA
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Ya nwo wolfpac for life!!!!!! I still miss that song Giambi used to play every time he'd go to the plate the one that sounded like a rap song....the one that went like " dont turn your back on the wolfpac....u might end up in a body bag!"...lmao....But on regards to the heat.....am i the only one thinking they might challenge the 72 win record by the bulls next year or in a few years? Is that to far fetched?
LeBron last night: "It's all about family."
Hahahaha..ahahahahaha
When I saw the highlights of the three of them being lifted up by the forklift with their backs to the crowd it was the first time that I was literally disgusted by seeing an athlete in a different uniform. I had to change the channel because James has turned into such a different type of personality than I thought he was. I couldn't even watch him smiling and talking at that appearance.
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I just got finished listening to SAS with Francesa from a couple of days ago. Interesting stuff.
Knicks- was never an option for Lebron. They were worried about D'Antoni lack of a defense style. Lebron knows defense wins championships. Lebron worried about how long Donnie Walsh would be around to continue to build up the team. If Isaiah had a big role with the organization, that might had help get Lebron.
Nets- Never an option. Only got a meeting because he's friends with Jay-z. Lebron had no interest in going to Newark.
The special was in Greenwich, CT to tweak the Knicks/NY. He's that type of person that would do something like that.
Wade was in his ear a lot about coming to Miami to win championships. Very good friends with Wade. The 'Dream Team' almost didn't happen because Bosh wanted his money and Houston was willing to do a sign and trade. Wade told Bosh to stop messing around and the prize is a championship. Bosh said okay.
Wouldn't surprise him if Lebron has an opt out clause after 3 years and goes to the Nets when they go to Brooklyn. Knicks will be an option too.
Only if Durant has already joined one of those two.Originally Posted by SLURPEE
Welcome to reality. He has always been this way, its just that it has been force fed to you all that he is this humble character.Originally Posted by Snatch Catch
All the while calling himself King James and referring to himself in the 3rd person. He is Cristiano Ronaldo.
"Owning the Yankees," Steinbrenner once said, "is like owning the Mona Lisa."
I never thought LeBron was humble. Ever.Originally Posted by b_joseph
What I thought he was was a guy who was an alpha-dog, a businessman, and someone who wanted to be the greatest player ever. A cocky, affable, assh*le who wanted to own the game of basketball, build his own wing in the basketball hall of fame, and smile for millions in endorsements.
Instead I find out he's a jittery, weak-minded p*ssy.
I wanted to hate him because he's so good, not because he's so soft.
Mo' Nut: One Smoove Brotha.
Jaret Wright's 2005 Cy Young Season: 20-3, 3.04 ERA
Why? What has New York ever done but show him love and adulation? F*ck him, let's get Melo in here somehow and beat his ass.Originally Posted by SLURPEE
"We understand that John Henry must be embarrassed, frustrated and disappointed by his failure in this transaction. Unlike the Yankees, he chose not to go the extra distance for his fans in Boston."
That sums it up perfectly.Originally Posted by Snatch Catch
"We understand that John Henry must be embarrassed, frustrated and disappointed by his failure in this transaction. Unlike the Yankees, he chose not to go the extra distance for his fans in Boston."
At least C. Ronaldo helped Man Utd. win something. LBJ won nothing.Originally Posted by b_joseph
He's a f****g tool, that's why.Originally Posted by Yankees13
just because sas got the location right doesn't mean he had mindreaders attached to lebron's skull
oy vey
King James has demoted himself to Prince James
http://ifollo.com/ifollo-blogs/jon-r...f-prince-james
Nah, I'll call him Pauper James.
"Don't Give Up...Don't Ever Give Up." - Jimmy Valvano
One must know pain to be a hero.
But Cristiano Ronaldo had a sidekick when he was in Manchester United named Wayne Rooney.Originally Posted by kan_t
"Don't Give Up...Don't Ever Give Up." - Jimmy Valvano
One must know pain to be a hero.
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