Here's Montero's GCL line at 17 for comparison.Originally Posted by mwalvlior
.280/.366/.421/ OPS.787
AB's-107 H-30 2B-6 3B-0 HR-3 RBI-19 BB-12 K-18
Here's Montero's GCL line at 17 for comparison.
.280/.366/.421/ OPS.787
AB's-107 H-30 2B-6 3B-0 HR-3 RBI-19 BB-12 K-18
"Jesus Montero is a stud," one evaluator wrote in an e-mail. "One of the best young hitters I've ever seen, period."
Gary Sanchez > Miguel Sano
Though I wish we signed both:
Code:League AVG G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI TB BB SO SB CS OBP SLG OPS DSL .314 16 51 10 16 2 1 3 9 29 10 14 2 0 .429 .569 .997
You can make a strong case that he can be a better prospect than Montero.
Montero didn't really go off until the end of the season/playoffs when he was in the GCL. This is a different start. But, Gary still have to kill 3 pitchers parks to be considered with Jesus. Though, it does seem that he has a Yankee Bat.
Lets relax. He's played 6 games. Lets not annoint yet. I do think he'll be a great prospect but lets not get ahead of ourselves.
Mitchell 4 IP, H, BB, SO
Sanchez 1-1, HR, 2 RBI, 2 BB
Culver 2-3, R, SO
nice to see culver get his first multi-hit game. also stole a bag
yea, no reason to really compare Jesus and Sanchez just yet. Certainly the start makes us all a little giddy but the small sample size issue does still exist. keep it up another 2-3 weeks and it gets even more exciting.
make that 3 hits for Cito. 3-4 1SO 1SB (3rd) now up to .313 from .167 before the game. ah the beauty of SSS.
2 BB for Sanchez as well, SSS...but so far has shown good plate discipline
4:5 BB:k
Culver ends up with four hits. May make all of us who hated the pick look bad.
Culver 4-5 1 2B 1RBI 1SB 1SO avg up to .353
Sanchez 1-2 2 run HR 3BB (now 5BB on season) (anyone know if any of those were intentional)
Mitchell excellent bounce back 4IP 1BB 1H 1K
good day in GCL.
one was intentional
"Montero hasn't delivered completely on his raw power, but he's close to projecting as an 80 hitter with 80 power on the 20-80 scouting scale"-BA
yeah i was just about to edit as i saw it at the bottom of the box score. thanks.
let's slow down, the gcl is a high school all star game, but it's definitely nice to see some of these guys having a nice start to their careers.
agreed. nice to see some first's for cito today though. 1st multi hit game, 1st rbi, 1st extra base hit and 1st SB. now keep it up young man.
Who pitched today and how did they do?
starter Bryan Mitchell 4IP 1H 1BB 1K
Jose Quintana 3IP 1H 2BB 3K
Connor Mullee 2IP 3H 1ER 1BB 2K
Just looked it up. Love the four scoreless for Bryan Mitchell, don't really like the one strikeout and 3-8 GB/FB.
EDIT: Thanks mwalvlior.
Do you see the irony in the user-name for the guy who threw the wet towel on Cito's day..
Royal Flush: Hughes, Sabathia, Betances, Brackman, Banuelos.
he doesnt need to worry, Cito will take his time.Do you see the irony in the user-name for the guy who through the wet towel on Cito's day..
At least 3 or 4.....he doesnt need to worry, Cito will take his time.
Royal Flush: Hughes, Sabathia, Betances, Brackman, Banuelos.
With a better glove and the chance to be a comparable masher - yes that argument can me made. One thing that needs to be noted is how many runs a good catcher saves his team. The best defensive catchers can save fifteen or twenty-five runs during a season beyond the average major league catcher. And a little discussed fielding metric, takes into account the runs saved over a year by playing a high-priority defensive position like catcher or shortstop.
Royal Flush: Hughes, Sabathia, Betances, Brackman, Banuelos.
Cito seems to be striking out alot .. any clue how many total at bats and how many strikeouts ... if C is to make it and be an asset on O he's going to be a #1 or #2 hitter .. so although striking out is never good its unaaceptable from your #1 or 2 hitters ... plus it maybe a sign that he's having trouble handling a pitch or location ...
any clue on his fielding ... assists/put outs/errors ..
thanks to any one that can help ..
its gulf coast league.. and his first pro ABs... he's gonna K a decent amount
Take a look at this shortstop's first professional season down in GCL.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/mi...d=jeter-001der
You need to go review his stats ... 3 ... that's the number of times he has k'd in 17 ABs.
Heathcott K'd three times yesterday. Why aren't you worried about him.
clear, concise, correct
Cito drew his first walk.
He's 17 years old and from the NE. In terms of game-ready skills, he's not there right now. In fact, I wouldn't be greatly surprised if the Yanks held him back in Extended ST next year and put him in the GCL or SI, depending on development. Keep in mind that he would still only be 18 then- the same age as most of NEXT YEAR'S HS draftees.
Remember, he's a project. His tools give him very good upside, but expecting immediate results isn't part of the plan.
Why does he need to be at the top of the order? He could hit somewhere between 7 and 9 if he becomes a great short stop with so-so offensive skills. At any rate, he's just starting out in professional ball at 17 and, so far, seems to be doing just fine.
First of all Cito has 3K in 20 AB - a low rate - just about everyone on that roster has a higher K rate. The Yankees expect that Cito will be a successful hitter for average and he could show surprising power for a shortstop. I'm extremely impressed so far.As for his fielding, the Yankees drafted him because they feel confident he can play shortstop for a long time. In his gulf coast games so far he hasn't errred and has made all the plays expected.
Royal Flush: Hughes, Sabathia, Betances, Brackman, Banuelos.
Still think the Yankees will hold back on putting this kid on the field? At least now you apparently acknowledge that decision will be based on how he develops this year and in instructs in the fall and winter. It was always about how well players develop not an effort to be cautious in pushing kids.I think the Yankees hope and indeed expect that Culver will develop well in GCL and demonstrate he needs a full year challenge next year. Trout of the Angels has shown that NE players can develop very quickly if given the chance.
Royal Flush: Hughes, Sabathia, Betances, Brackman, Banuelos.
Trout is a much more advanced bat that Culver is. Cito is about upside, not "now" production. The Yanks have an extra incentive to make sure this kid succeeds- if Cito becomes a ML SS with the skills set they envision, the Yanks will take GREAT pleasure in rubbing into BA's faces.
However, in order to do so, they need to get him as much "coaching up" as possible over the next several years. Pushing him to the next level to "challenge" him is not part of that equation.
Quite simply, he will be behind the Latin and Southern kids in on-field exposure and field time. He needs to begin to make up that difference in the cage, taking grounders, strengthening himself physically, and all the "little things" that go into prospect development. If he's on an artificial timeline to get him to low A ball in April, he will not get the time he needs.
Keep in mind that in ST, the fields are crowded and not a lot of one-on-one time is available. He needs winter AND extended ST to get the maximum benefit.
Like I said, he's only 17. Repeating rookie ball or going to SI next year is no tragedy- since he will still be 18 then, and the same age as most HS kids coming in.
Besides, its not like he will be alone in this. If the Yanks bring in Gumbs, Williams, Rutckyj, Deze and Kish, they most likely be joining him, as they won't sign in time to get any meaningful time in this summer.
The Yankees have no reason to have a player repeat a level if he shows he has already handled it. You mention the latin players that have been in the system for two years already (and incidentally playing at the same level as Cito). Well players like Felix Anderson and Ramon Flores (the same age as Cito and already in the system) are players like that and Cito is fitting right in already. The Yankees let the individual player's performance tell them what they can handle. Don't expect they will hold this kid back if he meets challenges and shows he should go forward.Btw, two more latin players (Rosario and Toussen both shortstops too) are actually on the roster with Culver and have already been lapped by Cito.
Royal Flush: Hughes, Sabathia, Betances, Brackman, Banuelos.
As first round talent, Trout was a sure thing and Cito was not. In history, Yanks always took kids at least round earlier but not in first round but Yanks have been "tight" in budget because of CC and Tex. Because Cito was valued as 2nd round and Yanks were sitting at very end of the round, they took Cito in the first round as a conservative approach. That means Yanks will not take ANY pleasure in rubbing BA's faces.
DSL level is not always ahead of HS level.
do you consider hs all star level to be "hs level?" how about hs level in the northeast?
oy vey
Trout signed for slot at the 25th pick last year. He was not a signability pick or considered a sure thing by any stretch of the imagination. In fact Trout was considered someone who would need a lot of instruction before reaching his potential - it just so happens that Trout showed he could handle rookie league and then full year low a ball.I'm not saying that Culver is the same player as Trout and his development will parallel Trout's. I am saying that Culver, like Trout, is a player who will probably exceed expectations (of teams that picked their players earlier than both Trout and Culver were selected) as did Trout.
Royal Flush: Hughes, Sabathia, Betances, Brackman, Banuelos.
For that part, I am very concerned because Yanks instructors wont match Angels'.
key words: "NOT ALWAYS"
Once again you missed the point. Trout needed less instruction than most teams assumed he would need coming from the Northeast. The same is true of Cito, the Yankees already know he can play shortstop and hit.The Yankees instructors aren't as good as the Angels instructors? OK.
Royal Flush: Hughes, Sabathia, Betances, Brackman, Banuelos.
The same troll under a different alias.
Uh? NJ is the same as NY? oh right. Trout's name and first round had been around way before the draft day. Cito was not. Both are not same. Only benefit of Cito's is Yanks had watched him growing up as they will know what to do with Cito.
Seems like a significant benefit if the Yankees are correct in their evaluation of him and he reaches the potential they envision about him.
I would say this is a clear means to measure the effectiveness of their evaluations. Not to say he has to become a major league player to prove their worth but if he turns into another Carmen Angelini debacle, it sure knocks down the faith I have in these types of picks going forward but if he does turn out to be the goods, I'm sure they will be showered with accolades (fingers crossed).
Cashman told Accorsi, “I feel the responsibility of millions of Yankee fans on my shoulders, fans who take this very seriously and for which every game is very important. I think of that every day.”
Culver batting 5th today as the DH. He has a SF. 2-2 score after 4 innings. Turley pitching. Has 6 Ks after 4. Culver's replacement at SS, Rosario, has 2 errors, and Duran has 1. Both runs against Turley are unearned.
Duran, 3-3 with a 2B, Sanchez, 2-2.
This Sanchez fella is pretty good
Not necessarily because scouting amateur baseball players is not an exact science and even the best organizations at evaluating such talent have a pretty high failure rate.
The Yankees committed at least six errors today with Rosario making 3 of them.
Dios mio man. "That boy is hot."
"I see Jesus Montero as a potential once-in-a-generation force on offense."
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