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    Second year in a row Sather lets a good goon walk only to pay a crappier goon more money. Mind boggling.

    Meanwhile Pittsburgh & Jersey get marketability better through their signings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RhodyYanksFan
    Second year in a row Sather lets a good goon walk only to pay a crappier goon more money. Mind boggling.

    Meanwhile Pittsburgh & Jersey get marketability better through their signings.
    Of course...they actually have a FO thats a) respected around the league b) isnt run by a complete moron

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    We're gonna finish last in the Atlantic next year.

    And you know what? I'm OK with that. If Booggard is the worst move Slats makes this offseason, then I'll consider that a win. I'd rather over pay a goon a couple of hundred thousand than overpay a skill guy 2-3 mill per a year.

    *Waits for Slats to sign Matt Lombardi for 5 years, 25 mill*

    Wish we went after Ladd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CanoForPresident
    We're gonna finish last in the Atlantic next year.

    And you know what? I'm OK with that. If Booggard is the worst move Slats makes this offseason, then I'll consider that a win. I'd rather over pay a goon a couple of hundred thousand than overpay a skill guy 2-3 mill per a year.

    *Waits for Slats to sign Matt Lombardi for 5 years, 25 mill*

    Wish we went after Ladd.
    As long as Sather is here....our situation will never get any better because he will just make a dumb signing or two to counteract whatever good we do. Dude needs retire or has to be forced out somehow (which will never happen of course).

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanoForPresident
    We're gonna finish last in the Atlantic next year.

    And you know what? I'm OK with that. If Booggard is the worst move Slats makes this offseason, then I'll consider that a win. I'd rather over pay a goon a couple of hundred thousand than overpay a skill guy 2-3 mill per a year.

    *Waits for Slats to sign Matt Lombardi for 5 years, 25 mill*

    Wish we went after Ladd.
    Maybe if we do finish last it might cause Dolan to do something.

    But again, do you have confidence in Messier taking over? I guess the only good thing is the core coming up through the ranks int he next few years. The next GM really doesn't have to blow up the team and re-build, he just needs to not f-up.

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    Ben, I might need whatever you use to watch games this season because I don't want to spend $160 on Center Ice to watch this Rangers team.

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    @Real_ESPNLeBrun: Hearing the New York Rangers talking to Frolov

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    This team will never finish last because.........
























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    Quote Originally Posted by dabomb2045
    As long as Sather is here....our situation will never get any better because he will just make a dumb signing or two to counteract whatever good we do. Dude needs retire or has to be forced out somehow (which will never happen of course).
    Sathers stupidity will finally catch up to him next year IMO. If things stay as they are, we're easily the worst team in the Atlantic and outside of Florida, I can't say that we're better for sure than anyone else in the East. Which is fine, we should have gone down this road 3 ................ing years ago.

    At the end of the day, Slats didn't commit stupid money to anyone (yet.) If it stays that way, it should be considered a victory.


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    Ben, I might need whatever you use to watch games this season because I don't want to spend $160 on Center Ice to watch this Rangers team.

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    Prospal back for one year at a 1M base salary plus another possible 1.1 in performance bonuses.

    I would have let him walk, but I've got no problem with this.
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    Looks like another top 10 pick next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLURPEE
    Looks like another top 10 pick next year.
    Top 10? Try top 5!
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    So Sather signed Boogaard for twice as much as he offered Shelley. Shelley can actually skate and score as well as fight. Boogaard can fight alright, but seldom does because he's not skilled enough to get much ice time and when he does, nobody wants to drop their gloves with him. He is 5 years younger than Shelley though.
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    Even though this was reported a while ago, its still probably the best news of the day

    Derek Stepan officially signs with the Rangers

    http://rangers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=533512&navid=DL|NYR|home

    Our depth chart at center is awful. Steps (who is up to 190 pounds) may make it out of camp by default.

    Now on to something more, uh, surprising. During Slats conference call today, he seemed to hint that the team would like Kreider to turn pro now. Chris Botta says that Kreider is up to 220 lbs (I don't believe it, but he is bigger than he was a year ago) and if he really is 220, or close to it, his frame is more than NHL ready.

    I'd rather he go back and tear it up at the NCAA level for another year but I also kind of like the idea of getting him acclimated to the pro game and being able to control his ice time, instead of hoping that Jerry York uses him a bunch next year.
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    We're gonna suck next year anyways. Is there a downside to just signing Krieder and then letting him, Stepan, Grachev all play with the team next year....and go through their rookie struggles together?

    Might as well do it now. Its not as if this team is gonna be any good next season. Get them experience now, and perhaps by the time they are ready to emerge as big-time (hopefully) players...the team will be decent again.

    I'd rather watch these kids then some random overpaid veterans fail to produce up to their contract level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanoForPresident
    Top 10? Try top 5!
    You know they will have a couple of big winning streaks that will keep them away from the lottery. Throw in Lundqvist stealing a few games and they have a propensity to stay healthy. Top 10 and not bad enough for the lotto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dabomb2045
    We're gonna suck next year anyways. Is there a downside to just signing Krieder and then letting him, Stepan, Grachev all play with the team next year....and go through their rookie struggles together?

    Might as well do it now. Its not as if this team is gonna be any good next season. Get them experience now, and perhaps by the time they are ready to emerge as big-time (hopefully) players...the team will be decent again.

    I'd rather watch these kids then some random overpaid veterans fail to produce up to their contract level.
    I'd be 100% against Kreider playing significant minutes in the NHL next year. He improved a great deal last year but he'd be going from playing Prep School hockey to the highest level there is in a span of a year and a half. That is way too big of a jump for him to be making, considering that he hasn't really dominated the NCAA level for an entire season (He ripped it up post WJC.)

    The idea of him playing in the A is interesting since hes big enough to handle the load (and if he really is 6'2", 220, I can't imagine him having too much trouble with the NCAA next year) and we won't have to worry about him getting boned on ice time by Jerry York, who doesn't give a ................ about player development (nor should he, his job is to win.)



    Quote Originally Posted by SLURPEE
    You know they will have a couple of big winning streaks that will keep them away from the lottery. Throw in Lundqvist stealing a few games and they have a propensity to stay healthy. Top 10 and not bad enough for the lotto.
    The entire division improved while we stayed put, at best. Hell, most of the conference improved. Of all the teams who finished behind us in the east, I'd say only Florida is worse than we are, maybe Tampa. Remember the East was pretty weak last year, its going to be a stronger conference this season.

    This all obviously changes if Slats does something via UFA or trade, but if you read/listen between the lines, it really sounds like they're intent on sticking to their guns and going through a rebuilding year with out calling it a rebuild, but perhaps I'm only reading it the way I want to read it.
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    Eh, not the best move, but I'm not too pissed off. Ah Sather.

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    Take it for what it's worth but Devil beat writer Tom Gulitti mentioned in the comments on his blog that he heard the Rangers were "interested" in John Madden.
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    Let's be honest, the Rangers are in the middle of rebuilding. Even though they're not saying it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by njdhockey
    Take it for what it's worth but Devil beat writer Tom Gulitti mentioned in the comments on his blog that he heard the Rangers were "interested" in John Madden.
    Thatd make no sense what so ever.
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    Forgot to post this here, sorry it's a bit late...

    Sorry for the audio, this is pretty much how the conference call sounded -- the audio will be better during the season when I'm actually at the Garden.





















    http://www.insidehockey.com/columns/6873

    NEW YORK – Rangers general manager Glen Sather signed two key players Thursday afternoon as free agency opened. One is an insurance policy against other players running into goaltender Henrik Lundqvist, the other an insurance clause protecting the goaltender from overuse.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SLURPEE
    Let's be honest, the Rangers are in the middle of rebuilding. Even though they're not saying it.
    They've been rebuilding for the better part of my post puberty years.

    At some stage, you just need to call it ''we have no clue what to do so we just hope for the best'' mode.
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    Quote Originally Posted by b_joseph
    They've been rebuilding for the better part of my post puberty years.

    At some stage, you just need to call it ''we have no clue what to do so we just hope for the best'' mode.
    I think I wrote last year, I don't think there's a plan. Glen made some references yesterday to the fact that they're rebuilding, but I don't think there's a real discernible plan for what needs to happen year to year. Brashear didn't work, let's bring in Boogaard. That's the plan for this FA season. It's downright strange.


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    I still can't believe they're going into the season with the same group of Cs as last year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JfromJersey
    I still can't believe they're going into the season with the same group of Cs as last year.
    This is why I was dying for them to suck really badly so they can draft Seguin.

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    Thats precisely why I want them to stay away from Kovalchuk this year and go hard after Richards next year.

    Richards
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    Is a huge step up from

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    Re: Lets Go Rangers! 2010-2011 season thread

    Prust resigns for 2 years/1.6 mill (800,000 per)

    So far, so good other than the Boogaard contract. Don't blow it by caving into Frolov's demands Slats.

    I'll be happy if we finish the off season by re-signing Staal and Girardi, inking McDonagh and waiving Redden before the season starts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZYanksRule
    I think I wrote last year, I don't think there's a plan. Glen made some references yesterday to the fact that they're rebuilding, but I don't think there's a real discernible plan for what needs to happen year to year. .
    100% correct, except the Rangers actually do have a plan, and have executed it to perfection for the past 50+ years outside of 1994. It's called bringing in big name
    players after their time, causing us to finish just good enough to make the playoffs, and not to draft high, and then waste our draft picks 50% of the time.

    If you're born in the NY area, and love the Rangers, you just get fed up with the organization year after year after year. You just have to be amazed at the continuous head scratching mauevers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trentonthunder

    If you're born in the NY area, and love the Rangers, you just get fed up with the organization year after year after year. You just have to be amazed at the continuous head scratching mauevers.
    Well I wasn't born in NY, so does that mean I get to be optimistic? 2011 Stanley Cup champs here we come!

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    Looks like McDonagh is going to sign

    http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/range...#ixzz0sjFQOKx1

    Don't rule out Kreider making the jump as well, even though I don't agree with that if it happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CanoForPresident
    Looks like McDonagh is going to sign

    http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/range...#ixzz0sjFQOKx1

    Don't rule out Kreider making the jump as well, even though I don't agree with that if it happens.
    Good news on McDonagh, not good if Kreider joins him.

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    Good news on McDonagh, not good if Kreider joins him.

    I don't think he'll make the jump (Kreider), but he is mulling his options. Whats crazier is that the team actually has approached him about signing and turning pro. They have a better idea of where he is at development wise than you or I do.

    That said, Hes got a good chance to be in the running for the Hobey Baker award this year (As a True Soph!), Plays for a team that has an excellent shot at repeating as NCAA Champs and should get another crack at a gold medal at the World Juniors. Hes got a lot to go back for.

    Though I have to admit, It would be pretty cool to have him, Steps and Grachev down in Hartford at the same time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CanoForPresident
    I don't think he'll make the jump (Kreider), but he is mulling his options. Whats crazier is that the team actually has approached him about signing and turning pro. They have a better idea of where he is at development wise than you or I do.

    That said, Hes got a good chance to be in the running for the Hobey Baker award this year (As a True Soph!), Plays for a team that has an excellent shot at repeating as NCAA Champs and should get another crack at a gold medal at the World Juniors. Hes got a lot to go back for.

    Though I have to admit, It would be pretty cool to have him, Steps and Grachev down in Hartford at the same time.
    That makes the Wolfpack more watchable next year then the Rangers.

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    That makes the Wolfpack more watchable next year then the Rangers.
    If that were to go down the Wolfpack may even be able to take the Rangers
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    Quote Originally Posted by CanoForPresident
    I don't think he'll make the jump (Kreider), but he is mulling his options. Whats crazier is that the team actually has approached him about signing and turning pro. They have a better idea of where he is at development wise than you or I do.

    That said, Hes got a good chance to be in the running for the Hobey Baker award this year (As a True Soph!), Plays for a team that has an excellent shot at repeating as NCAA Champs and should get another crack at a gold medal at the World Juniors. Hes got a lot to go back for.

    Though I have to admit, It would be pretty cool to have him, Steps and Grachev down in Hartford at the same time.
    It's easy for me to say from where I sit, but yeah I'd go back to school too. You never get that back. I'm sure he goes to BC for free, and probably gets more tail than anyone on campus probably. Something tells me BC groupies > Hartford Wolf Pack groupies.

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    McDonagh officially signs!

    http://rangers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=533881&navid=DL|NYR|home

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    So the next season we have anything to get excited about for is....2012-13. Im thinking by that time McD, Grachev, Steps and Krieder will all be w/the Rangers and making big impacts. Drury's and Rozsival's contracts ends after 2011-12 so thats more money available. We'll still have Gabby and Henrik under contract. By then we should have Staal, DZ, Callahan and maybe Girardi, Dubinsky and/or Anisimov will be locked up with good deals. Maybe we sign Brad Richards as a UFA for the 2011-12 season so he would be under contract for 12-13.

    The only bad contract still on the books would be Redden (assuming he's still around). We'll finally have alot of financial flexibility combined with a nice young core of players, a franchise goalie (Henrik), a nice playmaking #1 center (B-Rich) and a big time goal scorer in his prime (Gabby) at this point.
    So by then we should be looking somewhat good..in theory anyways.

    Looking at the 2010-11 team....there is no way I see us being good. Dont see how its done. We'll steal some games on Henrik's greatness alone but this is not a playoff team. I think we're best served to aim for a high draft pick.

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    We basically have three terrible contracts right now. Drury, Redden and Rozsival. Drury unfortunately I think will be here till his deal runs out.

    Roszival? His cap hit is $5M for the next two years. Could we realistically trade him to a contender in a salary dump deal, maybe close to the deadline this season?

    Redden? Is banishing him in Hartford a realistic possibility?

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    Re: Lets Go Rangers! 2010-2011 season thread

    Quote Originally Posted by dabomb2045
    We basically have three terrible contracts right now. Drury, Redden and Rozsival. Drury unfortunately I think will be here till his deal runs out.

    Roszival? His cap hit is $5M for the next two years. Could we realistically trade him to a contender in a salary dump deal, maybe close to the deadline this season?

    Redden? Is banishing him in Hartford a realistic possibility?
    If McDonagh makes the team and Staal/Girardi are re-signed, that would, in theory, make Redden the 7th defenseman.

    So, yes. It could happen.


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    If McDonagh makes the team and Staal/Girardi are re-signed, that would, in theory, make Redden the 7th defenseman.

    So, yes. It could happen.

    You've got Gilroy penciled in at 6?


    I don't know. I think the 5-6 spots will be open to the guys who earn (hopefully) them at camp. Unfortunately, I can see Redden getting one of those spots due to experience/contract, but I think we can all agree that he won't be playing for the Rangers past this season, at the most.
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    Re: Lets Go Rangers! 2010-2011 season thread

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    So the next season we have anything to get excited about for is....2012-13. Im thinking by that time McD, Grachev, Steps and Krieder will all be w/the Rangers and making big impacts. Drury's and Rozsival's contracts ends after 2011-12 so thats more money available. We'll still have Gabby and Henrik under contract. By then we should have Staal, DZ, Callahan and maybe Girardi, Dubinsky and/or Anisimov will be locked up with good deals. Maybe we sign Brad Richards as a UFA for the 2011-12 season so he would be under contract for 12-13.

    The only bad contract still on the books would be Redden (assuming he's still around). We'll finally have alot of financial flexibility combined with a nice young core of players, a franchise goalie (Henrik), a nice playmaking #1 center (B-Rich) and a big time goal scorer in his prime (Gabby) at this point.
    So by then we should be looking somewhat good..in theory anyways.

    Looking at the 2010-11 team....there is no way I see us being good. Dont see how its done. We'll steal some games on Henrik's greatness alone but this is not a playoff team. I think we're best served to aim for a high draft pick.

    Brandon Saad.

    American born, nastier version of Nino Niederreiter. Leaving the NTDP to play in the OHL next year.

    The only problem is we may not be bad enough to land him but we'll see how that goes.


    Richards is the deal that I think needs to happen (along with Redden being off the team) in order for this team to move forward.
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    Re: Lets Go Rangers! 2010-2011 season thread

    Quote Originally Posted by dabomb2045
    So the next season we have anything to get excited about for is....2012-13. Im thinking by that time McD, Grachev, Steps and Krieder will all be w/the Rangers and making big impacts. Drury's and Rozsival's contracts ends after 2011-12 so thats more money available. We'll still have Gabby and Henrik under contract. By then we should have Staal, DZ, Callahan and maybe Girardi, Dubinsky and/or Anisimov will be locked up with good deals. Maybe we sign Brad Richards as a UFA for the 2011-12 season so he would be under contract for 12-13.

    The only bad contract still on the books would be Redden (assuming he's still around). We'll finally have alot of financial flexibility combined with a nice young core of players, a franchise goalie (Henrik), a nice playmaking #1 center (B-Rich) and a big time goal scorer in his prime (Gabby) at this point.
    So by then we should be looking somewhat good..in theory anyways.

    Looking at the 2010-11 team....there is no way I see us being good. Dont see how its done. We'll steal some games on Henrik's greatness alone but this is not a playoff team. I think we're best served to aim for a high draft pick.
    I like this plan. Plus every year closer to the end of Redden's deal makes it that much easier to rid ourselves of him.

    Now it's just up to our fearless/mindless GM to not screw up next off-season.

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    Re: Lets Go Rangers! 2010-2011 season thread

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    hahahaha! That was pretty good.

    The Wade Redden segment in this video had me dying. It's hilarious all together and there are a few things in here that you'll appreciate



    Also slightly NSFW
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    That was a great one CFP. That guy's site is generally really good.

    As soon as I saw Larry Murphy's face, my first instinct was to boo. It's some kind of illness...

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    Sigh. If I didn't laugh I'd cry.

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    Re: Lets Go Rangers! 2010-2011 season thread

    Voros was traded for Steve Eminger yesterday (7th d-man)

    And Girardi signed for 4 years/13.3 mill.

    A bit much but thats what happens when you buy out a few UFA years. I'd love to see Slats do the same thing with Staal now.
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    Re: Lets Go Rangers! 2010-2011 season thread

    Outside of Boogaard (and not drafting Fowler) I can't complain about our offseason so far.

    I assume we're not even considering Kovalchuk, right?

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    Re: Lets Go Rangers! 2010-2011 season thread

    Unless we find a way to rid our selves of Redden/Drury+Rozsival, Kovalchuk is not an option. He isn't exactly a good fit for this team anyway IMO.

    Boogaard is the only real big miss so far IMO only because we're not exactly sure what Fowler/McIlrath will become.
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