Whatever...Originally Posted by Nathan
Keep living in your fantasy sandbox...
Whatever...
Keep living in your fantasy sandbox...
To seek the sacred river Alph, To walk the caves of ice
To break my fast on honey dew, And drink the milk of paradise
It wasn't. According to you just yesterday a victory doesn't count if it's a case of the losing team simply underperforming. The Yankees win that game if their players simply perform better. You feel awful about the whole thing, thus your angry posts today. You're not fooling anyone.
You should be happy about winning, but a dropped popup and poor defensive alignment and almost second consecutive blown save isn't enough to herald it as a "turning point", "perfect comeback", or "redemption".
Also, getting 2 HRs and 4 RBIs off your closer isn't barely winning. It's driving a stake through the heart.
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Right, he also isn't 0-5 with an ERA north of 10 against his teams' arch rivals.
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I said it doesn't count? Link?
It's true that Beckett's performance was discouraging and they fell into another hole. If Joba and Rivera had done their jobs (Rivera arguably did, sort of, but he didn't pick up his team after the error either), the Yankees would have won.
I'm glad there are worthwhile Sox fans here to pick up the error you are.
I don't remember using those terms. But I'll take the perfect comeback one, at least almost perfect. Papelbon blows a save and the game, then the MoJob crew blows a game the next night. Seems pretty equal. Papelbon had an error happen to him in the 9th, too. He (barely) got out of it anyway.
For the night, sure. But I guess a team's broken heart can mend pretty quickly. Witness last night.Also, getting 2 HRs and 4 RBIs off your closer isn't barely winning. It's driving a stake through the heart.
Of course, the Red Sox still have a huge hole to dig out of so they remain in a difficult position.
I think it might also have to do with Victor knowing that he's not super popular over there -- not sure if it's his enthusiasm or why Beckett in particular seems to bark at him once a game.
I do think Victor seems like a pretty good guy..and don't take this the wrong way, but I almost feel bad for him being on that team with the chemistry or lack thereof...
I agree..although who knows - maybe he was?
http://forums.nyyfans.com/showpost.p...postcount=7291
We would have probably won if the Sox had only lost.
Merry f'ing Christmas
Maybe I'm not seeing where I said a victory doesn't count if the losing team underperforms. I'll keep looking through that link though!
Ya know - I once sat around with Sox fans in the stands for about an hour after the Yankees lost a huge game to the Sox... They really changed my mind about their fanbase.... and that for every "good" Sox fan there is a Tooley McToolenstine fan that is grossly delusional.
To seek the sacred river Alph, To walk the caves of ice
To break my fast on honey dew, And drink the milk of paradise
Exactly, so you agree that the Sox didn't really win last night, at least according to the Nathan W/L Theory. I'm guessing this is why your posts are coming across pretty hostile this morning.
It's amazing, isn't it?
Such a drama queen.
Buck up, Mary, they may have won the game the night before too if they only hadn't lost.
I'll need a link to this Theory.
Because this is the Sox thread and the play happened in last night's game.
Just because you bring up players other than Red Sox here doesn't mean other people should.
It was nothing like Dice-BB and Papelblown. Two balls sailing over the fence like they were on rocket boosters are nothing like bloops, drops and bad umpiring. You can't possibly even make that argument.
Drama queen? I was replying to the "stake through the heart" comment from another poster.
Still riding PK's strawman coattails?
Its really not about the Yankees. Yanks have plenty of their own concerns, for sure. But I think it will take more than a really ugly loss in which Boston didn't play well at all to be encouraged if you're a level-headed Sox fan. After last's game the Sox are still 8.5 games out of the East and they have 8 games in a row against Minnesota, Philly and Tampa.
With starters, relievers and defense looking terrible, my point was only that it is a little stupid to use headlines suggesting a step in the right direction.
Oh, Nathan. You're just getting it from all sides, aren't you?
The Red Sox got 6 hits off of MoJob, and they weren't all bloops. It wasn't all luck.
If it makes you feel better, ok, the Yankee comeback 2 days ago counted more than the Red Sox last night. I think I'll put on my PK hat and call this the yanke26 Comeback Theory.
Judging by some of the theories you've posted I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if you were incapable of understanding what you yourself were imputing.
MoJob? That's a CS violation, Nathan.The Red Sox got 6 hits off of MoJob, and they weren't all bloops. It wasn't all luck..
It's virtually impossible to have a conversation with him. The theories change just about every day, sometimes by the hour. Remember when in the span of just a few posts he wanted to both revel in 2004 and call it a sham?
this is true- although I challenge that it was ever possible...it was just more fun toying with him. now that's not even fun anymore, he's just annoying.It's virtually impossible to have a conversation with him. The theories change just about every day, sometimes by the hour. Remember when in the span of just a few posts he wanted to both revel in 2004 and call it a sham?
They weren't all bloops. One was a horrible error, one was an out at first called safe, one was an outfielder playing way too far in. You're right, they weren't all bloops. Try to tell me they were good solid hits though and you'll have to excuse my laughter.The Red Sox got 6 hits off of MoJob, and they weren't all bloops. It wasn't all luck.
If it makes you feel better, ok, the Yankee comeback 2 days ago counted more than the Red Sox last night. I think I'll put on my PK hat and call this the yanke26 Comeback Theory.
Eh, I don't find him much of anything except confused. I guess he's trying to rile people up but all I ever take away from him is that he's really really angry all the time.this is true- although I challenge that it was ever possible...it was just more fun toying with him. now that's not even fun anymore, he's just annoying.
I thought it was encouraging that the Sox came back from large deficits two nights in a row and actually came away with the win last night. starting pitching looks terrible, but it was encouraing nonetheless
Someone once said a man can measure his value by the worth of his enemies. Considering the people who hate me in this thread, I really am a DB.
So, if Papelbon hadn't blown the game 2 days ago, the Yankees might still have won? Ah, the Eschie Theory. Where wins lie hidden somewhere between saves and blown saves.
Ok, posting like PK and attributing theories to you that you never posited isn't productive. Less about me, more about baseball please.
Speaking of V-Mart, if he can get out of his extended slump the lineup will look a lot better. He's down to an OPS of .659, which is almost 200 points lower than his career #s, and he's ideally their #3 hitter. That has got to pick up.
Is angry and dumb the same thing?
Tiger Woods:Sent: 01:28 PM 09/08/2009:
Have you ever had a golden shower done to you
Sorry if this has been discussed already, but is Francona now following a "if we aren't going to sign Papelbon long-term, we might as well run him into the ground" philosophy?
"Trade a player a year too early rather than a year too late" -- Branch Rickey
But you HAVE to ask yourself if it is at all possible to score 7 runs every single night....
Their pitching will do them in this season....
To seek the sacred river Alph, To walk the caves of ice
To break my fast on honey dew, And drink the milk of paradise
It is? I remember seeing a thread with that title on here. If it is, I'll change it post haste.
http://forums.nyyfans.com/showthread...ighlight=mojob
Are you trying to outdo Nathan?
It's not working.
Tiger Woods:Sent: 01:28 PM 09/08/2009:
Have you ever had a golden shower done to you
No, I'm sure they're not. He'll be unavailable tonight and they'll probably stay away from him 2 or 3 days if they can.
Like Heidi Watney....Oh, Nathan. You're just getting it from all sides, aren't you?
Who's theory were you trying to rip on?
But there's no baseball in your baseball. It's all wild guessing and bizarre alternate reality theories. THen when you're cornered on them, suddenly you pretend to want to discuss Victor Martinez and how crappy he is.
Nick, let me ask you something, do you think Josh Beckett was really injured last night or was the whole thing a ruse? Plus, V-Mart - can he rebound from his slump?
If Papelbon had pitched well 2 nights ago, the Red Sox would have won. Is that really so bizarre that you should be rolling around on the floor laughing?But there's no baseball in your baseball. It's all wild guessing and bizarre alternate reality theories. THen when you're cornered on them, suddenly you pretend to want to discuss Victor Martinez and how crappy he is.
I applied the same logic to last night's game. If Joba/Rivera had pitched better, the Yankees would have won.
I think you guys are stuck in a Pavlovian pattern of "Nathan just posted! I must argue and tell him he's stupid, no matter what he said!".
Truly bizarre, Nathan, attempting to insult me by attributing a stupid theory to me that you came up with.
Most people here think you're a troll but, to your credit, I don't think you're here with bad motives, you're just not that smart.
yawn
"He's done it all now....he's one of the greatest players that's ever played this game.'' - Brian Cashman on Alex.
2009 = shutting up the haters. Thanks Arod and CC.
You mad.
You're such a victim here.
Did you ever stop to think maybe there's a reason people feel this way about you?
Link?
So what you are saying is, you posted a bunch of ridiculous, nonsensical crap, and now people read your posts and just expect more ridiculous, nonsensical crap?
Hard to object to that.
"Trade a player a year too early rather than a year too late" -- Branch Rickey
I know exactly why they do. Never wondered about that.
That is fantastic.
Sigh. Link?
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