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    Re: Red Sox Thread Version 5.0

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Coffee
    The reason it gets ridiculed is you can do that with any game.

    It's meaningless.
    That's right. He's playing a game of "what if's." Means nothing. We can do that to every game. wtffff

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    Re: Red Sox Thread Version 5.0

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    Quote Originally Posted by teknetic
    I didn't realize Papelbon threw 2 1/3 innings in Detroit on Saturday.
    He had an extremely low pitch count before he came out for the final inning. Something like 13 or 14 if I remember correctly. Wound up with 26 pitches total.
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    Re: Red Sox Thread Version 5.0

    Quote Originally Posted by ShaneTravis
    per rotoworld---Lowell has asked for his release. Or is "thinking" of asking.

    Vague at best.
    I wouldn't be surprised. He must be pissed.

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    Re: Red Sox Thread Version 5.0

    Quote Originally Posted by Yankee Tripper
    I don't believe the players union allows that.
    In that case, no release.
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    Re: Red Sox Thread Version 5.0

    Quote Originally Posted by 4bronxbombers
    I wouldn't be surprised. He must be pissed.

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    Re: Red Sox Thread Version 5.0

    Quote Originally Posted by ShaneTravis
    per rotoworld---Lowell has asked for his release. Or is "thinking" of asking.

    Vague at best.
    Is the reveler a writer for rotoworld?
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    Re: Red Sox Thread Version 5.0

    so, lowell may ask for his release and Dice-K is throwing V-Mart under the bus. Good times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDPNYY
    Is the reveler a writer for rotoworld?
    dunno. I would include the link, but I am feeling a little fast and loose today.
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    Re: Red Sox Thread Version 5.0

    Quote Originally Posted by b-ball-lunachick
    so, lowell may ask for his release and Dice-K is throwing V-Mart under the bus. Good times.
    Apparently V-Mart pretty much crap-talked Papelbon too, according to YES. Good times indeed.
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    Re: Red Sox Thread Version 5.0

    Quote Originally Posted by snarkerella
    Apparently V-Mart pretty much crap-talked Papelbon too, according to YES. Good times indeed.
    too bad Manny's not around to throw an old guy to the floor.

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    Re: Red Sox Thread Version 5.0

    Quote Originally Posted by ShaneTravis
    dunno. I would include the link, but I am feeling a little fast and loose today.
    I hope -tz doesn't see this post. it could get ugly.

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    Re: Red Sox Thread Version 5.0

    Quote Originally Posted by b-ball-lunachick
    so, lowell may ask for his release and Dice-K is throwing V-Mart under the bus. Good times.
    I thought it was V-Mart throwing Dice-K under the bus. Did Dice-K start it? And if so, how much did Dice-K miss the underside of the bus by?
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    Re: Red Sox Thread Version 5.0

    Quote Originally Posted by b-ball-lunachick
    I hope -tz doesn't see this post. it could get ugly.
    The Librarian doesn't venture in here. Hence why I am so brave.
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    Re: Red Sox Thread Version 5.0

    Quote Originally Posted by Huktonfonix
    I thought it was V-Mart throwing Dice-K under the bus. Did Dice-K start it? And if so, how much did Dice-K miss the underside of the bus by?
    you could be right - i only heard a few minutes of Kim Jones before and she said something about Dice-K saying that V-Mart called too many fastballs. I'll have to research this further.

    i wonder if either of them threw those outfielders under the bus-- yikes. I think I even make a few of those catches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snarkerella
    Apparently V-Mart pretty much crap-talked Papelbon too, according to YES. Good times indeed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miss Yvonne
    When you have a clubhouse full of clubhouse cancers, do they cancel each other out?

    Or the cancers breed and multiply and the result is hair loss on the head and furry growths around the mouth
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    Re: Red Sox Thread Version 5.0

    ESPN Headline: "Ex-Yankee Lowell wants out of beantown immediately, causing trouble."
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    Re: Red Sox Thread Version 5.0

    Quote Originally Posted by DEADSOX
    ESPN Headline: "Ex-Yankee Lowell wants out of beantown immediately, causing trouble."
    because I believed you and thought this was an actual headline, i went to read the article on ESPN.

    Obviously it doesn't say "Ex-yankee," but, not only that, in the interview of Lowell, he's very objective and perhaps even excessively nice about things.

    If it had been up to him, he said, he would have used David Ortiz even more than the Sox have, even though it would have cost him playing time.

    "I literally eat up a roster spot,'' he said before stepping into the batting cage Tuesday afternoon. "I literally do. That's the way it is.

    "I don't want to use [asking for his release] as leverage, it's just the reality of the situation they're in. When Jacoby [Ellsbury] and [Mike] Cameron come back, who do I hit for? There will not be one person in the lineup.

    "The first baseman [Kevin Youkilis] and the third baseman [Adrian Beltre], they're two Gold Glovers. They never get batted for. I refuse to wish injuries to good players. That's so [expletive] terrible. I want to get playing time on my own.

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    "It worked for a couple of days, but overall we all want David to be good. That's just a fact of our life. If we're going to have success, David needs to be good.''
    "First batter up well here's the pitch: it's a curve. Second batter up because the first got served"

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    Re: Red Sox Thread Version 5.0

    Quote Originally Posted by ShaneTravis
    per rotoworld---Lowell has asked for his release. Or is "thinking" of asking.

    Vague at best.
    That doesn't sound like Lowell. Didn't he take less money to sign there a few years ago.

    edit- the actual article is pretty clear. He has no place on the team right now and he still has lots of baseball left in him.
    updating...


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    NESN talking nonsense. Heidi Watney just said, "It seems like both teams [the Yankees and Red Sox] are getting to each others' closers a little more recently." Uhh, when did the Sox get to Mo this season?

    Also apparently Kubel's GS led to Rivera's first blown save since 2007 .
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    Quote Originally Posted by NYYDragoon
    NESN talking nonsense. Heidi Watney just said, "It seems like both teams [the Yankees and Red Sox] are getting to each others' closers a little more recently." Uhh, when did the Sox get to Mo this season?

    Also apparently Kubel's GS led to Rivera's first blown save since 2007 .
    I doubt she has her job because she follows baseball closely.

    Note I didn't say "baseball players".

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    Lowell and Francona having quite the discussion in the dugout.
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    Re: Red Sox Thread Version 5.0

    Quote Originally Posted by NYYDragoon
    NESN talking nonsense. Heidi Watney just said, "It seems like both teams [the Yankees and Red Sox] are getting to each others' closers a little more recently." Uhh, when did the Sox get to Mo this season?
    I guess Jason Bay's homer last spring made quite an impression on her.

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    Where did this "Boston is emphasizing pitching and defense first" mantra that Michael Kay and other baseball commentators like to repeat nightly originate? Did Theo actually state this prior to the season? It's not like Boston's opening day lineup sans injuries was comprised of Rey Ordonez x 9. When healthy it's still a fairly potent offense. In fact even with the injuries aren't they currently leading the league in homeruns?
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    Re: Red Sox Thread Version 5.0

    Quote Originally Posted by NelsonMuntz
    Where did this "Boston is emphasizing pitching and defense first" mantra that Michael Kay and other baseball commentators like to repeat nightly originate? Did Theo actually state this prior to the season? It's not like Boston's opening day lineup sans injuries was comprised of Rey Ordonez x 9. When healthy it's still a fairly potent offense. In fact even with the injuries aren't they currently leading the league in homeruns?
    The run prevention mantra started from Theo in the winter...I thought it was at the winter meetings but that was his "we're in a bridge period" meme...I think he started the run prevention thing with the signing/announcement of Cameron.

    It's Toronto that leads in HRs with Boston second but they have also played a lot of games at Fenway, so that helps their HR total..I doubt they end the season in 2nd in HRs...the offense doesn't seem anemic as many thought going into the season, but the pitching and defense have been pretty poor at times...

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    Re: Red Sox Thread Version 5.0

    Quote Originally Posted by NelsonMuntz
    Where did this "Boston is emphasizing pitching and defense first" mantra that Michael Kay and other baseball commentators like to repeat nightly originate? Did Theo actually state this prior to the season? It's not like Boston's opening day lineup sans injuries was comprised of Rey Ordonez x 9. When healthy it's still a fairly potent offense. In fact even with the injuries aren't they currently leading the league in homeruns?
    It was probably around when they passed Kansas City for worst team ERA in the American League.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NelsonMuntz
    Where did this "Boston is emphasizing pitching and defense first" mantra that Michael Kay and other baseball commentators like to repeat nightly originate? Did Theo actually state this prior to the season? It's not like Boston's opening day lineup sans injuries was comprised of Rey Ordonez x 9. When healthy it's still a fairly potent offense. In fact even with the injuries aren't they currently leading the league in homeruns?
    Dude, how did you miss the birth of the RUN PREVENTION™ meme? Theo said it over the winter. It pissed Dusty off; he went on some rant about how it was insulting and that the offense is still excellent (He probably threw some expletive in there just for Jeanne.)
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    I want to go on record right now stating that if the Yankees didn't give up more runs than the Sox, they would have won.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Coffee
    I want to go on record right now stating that if the Yankees didn't give up more runs than the Sox, they would have won.
    Its safe to say if Joba doesn't pitch and someone without epic level suck does, we win.

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    Re: Red Sox Thread Version 5.0

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Coffee
    I want to go on record right now stating that if the Yankees didn't give up more runs than the Sox, they would have won.
    The Red Sox only won because of Joba's bad inning, it had nothing to do with the Sox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Coffee
    I want to go on record right now stating that if the Yankees didn't give up more runs than the Sox, they would have won.
    duly noted.

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    Nathan gloating in 3...2...
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    Re: Red Sox Thread Version 5.0

    Quote Originally Posted by NYYDragoon
    Nathan gloating in 3...2...
    You beat me to that. How about Tom Tom, no count down?

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    Re: Red Sox Thread Version 5.0

    Quote Originally Posted by NYYDragoon
    Dude, how did you miss the birth of the RUN PREVENTION™ meme? Theo said it over the winter. It pissed Dusty off; he went on some rant about how it was insulting and that the offense is still excellent (He probably threw some expletive in there just for Jeanne.)
    I hate that little pissant...stop arguing every freaking call. I swear that team has the biggest group of whiners ever assembled - Beltre, Ortiz, Pedroia, Youkilis to name a few...and it's at least once a game where they fly into a tizzy.

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    I hope tomorrow someone catches Beckett on film doing roofing or something like those guys you always see on the news getting busted collecting disability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Coffee
    I hope tomorrow someone catches Beckett on film doing roofing or something like those guys you always see on the news getting busted collecting disability.
    speaking of which -- has any team actually won a protest?

    i love how that a-hole yells at cervelli when he sits there with the ball for 3 minutes before each pitch. and then gets all pissed at the mound - does he not know he can ask for it to be fixed? what a douche.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yankeeah
    The Red Sox only won because of Joba's bad inning, it had nothing to do with the Sox.
    Good pitching beats good hitting the vast majority of the time. You get bloops off of good pitches and guys like Vlad hitting home runs off balls in the dirt once in a blue moon, but despite your attempt at sarcasm, you're actually somewhat correct. Except for the "nothing to do with the Sox" part. If Joba had done his job, the Sox leave NY with their tails between their legs.

    Joba, Thames, and Rivera are the goat trifecta of tonight's game, just like Dice-K and Papelbon were the goats last night.

    Cue everyone arguing with this obvious point in 3...2...

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    NateNate's here for quality baseball conversation! Yay!
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    Rivera actually pitched fine. He got totally boned by Thames, Girardi, and Campos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYYDragoon
    NateNate's here for quality baseball conversation! Yay!
    What a coincidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I'm A Wenner!
    Rivera actually pitched fine. He got totally boned by Thames, Girardi, and Campos.
    I agree about Rivera.

    In the post-game, Joe explained that they positioned Winn there because Rivera usually lets up weak bloops the other way, which is true--we've all seen this from time to time (2001 WS). However, I still think that's a bad idea and that Girardi was trying to be a little too smart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nathan
    Joba, Thames, and Rivera are the goat trifecta of tonight's game, just like Dice-K and Papelbon were the goats last night.

    Cue everyone arguing with this obvious point in 3...2...
    You're like the guy who writes ENOUGH SAID! and thinks that alone proves the point.

    Mo got 6 outs that inning. Even the great Mariano Rivera will get touched up when that happens, especially when the LF is playing that shallow against a guy who can put some distance on the ball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miss Yvonne
    What a coincidence.
    Yup, I obviously only come in here after Red Sox wins.

    Obviously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Coffee
    I agree about Rivera.

    In the post-game, Joe explained that they positioned Winn there because Rivera usually lets up weak bloops the other way, which is true--we've all seen this from time to time (2001 WS). However, I still think that's a bad idea and that Girardi was trying to be a little too smart.
    It was a pretty terrible idea. A bloop would have been one run. As opposed to essentially gifting away two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NYYDragoon
    It was a pretty terrible idea. A bloop would have been one run. As opposed to essentially gifting away two.
    Now that I think about it, it's not a bad strategy against left-handed batters as long as he's throwing that cutter in on them.

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    Re: Red Sox Thread Version 5.0

    Quote Originally Posted by Nathan
    Yup, I obviously only come in here after Red Sox wins.

    Obviously.
    Well, you are in here about .500 of the time.

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    Well, you are in here about .500 of the time.
    High five!
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    Nice to see that Ortiz is pretty much officially out of The Slump. 2-3, about 2 ft. from another home run tonight, which he would have had were it not for the wind blowing in. Nice to see.

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