Trey Hillman fired as Royals manager; Ned Yost to take over

[NYYRules#1]

http://twitter.com/KCRoyals/status/13934929107

Firing Hillman was long overdue (pains me over how awful he was as a Hillman fan, but he was a terrible manager with an even worse team), but Yost won't be much better.

[NYYRules#1]

And now Dayton Moore is crying at the press conference.

That organization is in shambles.

[Yankees Empire]

This club is a disaster.

Here the Royals are in a thoroughly winnable division lacking an entrenched Yankees/Red Sox power axis and they STILL can't do what the even more greatly hamstrung Tampa Bay Rays have managed to do in the past 2+ seasons. If the Rays can figure out how to compete against these Goliaths, why can't the Royals figure out how to manage even a half-assed assault at contention in a division showing far more balance than the AL East?

Somebody needs to blow that sucker up completely and start over. Until that happens, this club that gave us so many winners throughout their history will continue to suck profoundly.

[NelsonMuntz]

The Royals problems run a lot deeper than Trey Hillman.

[kan_t]

The Royals problems run a lot deeper than Trey Hillman.

I think if they fire Dayton Moore, lots of problems can be solved.

[Yankeeah]

Hilarious. I remember how a lot of people wanted Trey for the Yankees manager, I wonder how he would've done with a better team.

Yost was fied from Milwaukee with 12 games left in 2008, and tied for the wild card lead. What does that tell you?

[Yankees1962]

Hilarious. I remember how a lot of people wanted Trey for the Yankees manager, I wonder how he would've done with a better team.

Yost was fied from Milwaukee with 12 games left in 2008, and tied for the wild card lead. What does that tell you?

Cashman and Trey are tight so I wouldn't be surprise to see him back in the Yankee organization in some capacity in the near future.

[blumj]

This club is a disaster.

Here the Royals are in a thoroughly winnable division lacking an entrenched Yankees/Red Sox power axis and they STILL can't do what the even more greatly hamstrung Tampa Bay Rays have managed to do in the past 2+ seasons. If the Rays can figure out how to compete against these Goliaths, why can't the Royals figure out how to manage even a half-assed assault at contention in a division showing far more balance than the AL East?

Somebody needs to blow that sucker up completely and start over. Until that happens, this club that gave us so many winners throughout their history will continue to suck profoundly.

Contract the Royals, move the Rays to KC, rename them the Royals? Do the same thing with the Pirates and Marlins?

[kan_t]

This club is a disaster.

Here the Royals are in a thoroughly winnable division lacking an entrenched Yankees/Red Sox power axis and they STILL can't do what the even more greatly hamstrung Tampa Bay Rays have managed to do in the past 2+ seasons. If the Rays can figure out how to compete against these Goliaths, why can't the Royals figure out how to manage even a half-assed assault at contention in a division showing far more balance than the AL East?

Somebody needs to blow that sucker up completely and start over. Until that happens, this club that gave us so many winners throughout their history will continue to suck profoundly.

The sad thing is that the owner has money. The team is willing to spend. But the FO keeps making terrible decisions in FA market and draft.

[effdamets]

Contract the Royals, move the Rays to KC, rename them the Royals? Do the same thing with the Pirates and Marlins?

Wait - 3 teams named the Royals?

[justtxyank]

Wait - 3 teams named the Royals?

Yep. And they get to use their combined records to determine their standing in the division.

[Yankeeah]

This didn't help....

The moment happened in the third inning. Texas had runners on first and third with one out. Vlad Guerrero hit a fairly short fly ball to left field, and Elvis Andrus tagged up. Kansas City's Scott Podsednik caught the ball and threw home late -- arm strength isn't exactly Pods' greatest tool. Andrus scored the run.

Royals television showed a replay from behind the plate looking out toward the field, and if you were looking you saw something unusual -- and Royals announcer Ryan Lefebvre was all over it. Josh Hamilton at first base completely forgot to tag up. Just forgot. He was halfway between first and second, and he watched the ball go to the plate, and he just ran for second base. It was like he did not know the rules or something.

The Royals did not see it. And they did not appeal the play at first base. If they had appealed, Hamilton would have been out (the umpire DID see it) and the inning would have been over. Instead, the inning continued, the Rangers scored two more runs, they knocked Luke Hochevar out of the game, and the Royals lost 6-4.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...man/index.html

[delv]

Quote:
The moment happened in the third inning. Texas had runners on first and third with one out. Vlad Guerrero hit a fairly short fly ball to left field, and Elvis Andrus tagged up. Kansas City's Scott Podsednik caught the ball and threw home late -- arm strength isn't exactly Pods' greatest tool. Andrus scored the run.

Royals television showed a replay from behind the plate looking out toward the field, and if you were looking you saw something unusual -- and Royals announcer Ryan Lefebvre was all over it. Josh Hamilton at first base completely forgot to tag up. Just forgot. He was halfway between first and second, and he watched the ball go to the plate, and he just ran for second base. It was like he did not know the rules or something.

The Royals did not see it. And they did not appeal the play at first base. If they had appealed, Hamilton would have been out (the umpire DID see it) and the inning would have been over. Instead, the inning continued, the Rangers scored two more runs, they knocked Luke Hochevar out of the game, and the Royals lost 6-4.

[OlgMvp]

Amazing that NO ONE on the field even noticed this....not only the manager but first basemen? second basemen? shortstop? 3B? NO ONE?

[Yankees1962]

Amazing that NO ONE on the field even noticed this....not only the manager but first basemen? second basemen? shortstop? 3B? NO ONE?

You're right, but in fairness to the manager he was probably looking at the runner tagging up at 3rd base and then the play at home. However, there is no excuse for somebody else either a coach or player not watching the other runner.

[bobby jr]

Firing their manager will only have a marginal affect. They would fare far better if MLB had a hard salary cap, or other mechanism to help the small market size teams. A recent poll on the Royals forum indicated a large majority of posters favored a MLB salary cap.

[YankeePride1967]

The broken record (otherwise known as the one-trick pony) is back.

[Jax Teller]

A recent poll on another forum also says that "bobby jr needs to stop whining & realize the O's are a joke."

[kan_t]

Last year payroll
Royals: $81,917,563.00 (65-97)
Twins: $73,068,407.00 (87-76)

2008 payroll
Royals: $69,297,547.00 (75-87)
Twins: $65,096,667.00 (88-75)

2007 payroll
Royals: $62,264,855.00 (69-93)
Twins: $71,938,505.00 (79-83)

2006 payroll
Royals: $51,467,137.00 (62-100)
Twins: $64,809,258.00 (96-66)

2005 payroll
Royals: $34,903,000.00 (56-106)
Twins: $56,338,000.00 (83-79)

[YankeePride1967]

Last year payroll
Royals: $81,917,563.00
Twins: $73,068,407.00

2008 payroll
Royals: $69,297,547.00
Twins: $65,096,667.00

2007 payroll
Royals: $62,264,855.00
Twins: $71,938,505.00

2006 payroll
Royals: $51,467,137.00
Twins: $64,809,258.00

2005 payroll
Royals: $34,903,000.00
Twins: $56,338,000.00

Come on, don't confuse Bobby with facts.

[delv]

Last year payroll
Royals: $81,917,563.00 (65-97)
Twins: $73,068,407.00 (87-76)

2008 payroll
Royals: $69,297,547.00 (75-87)
Twins: $65,096,667.00 (88-75)

2007 payroll
Royals: $62,264,855.00 (69-93)
Twins: $71,938,505.00 (79-83)

2006 payroll
Royals: $51,467,137.00 (62-100)
Twins: $64,809,258.00 (96-66)

2005 payroll
Royals: $34,903,000.00 (56-106)
Twins: $56,338,000.00 (83-79)

what a joke

[bobby jr]

The broken record (otherwise known as the one-trick pony) is back.

Only briefly I have much to do and also some interesting discussions on other forums. Some of these forums are far more receptive to the idea of a hard salary cap than this Yankee forum is.


For example, speaking of the Royals: It seems the Royals fans are not blaming their problems on their manager. At least not entirely.

http://royalboard.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=10131


44 Voters, 76% want a salary cap, or a cap and a floor.
Only 8% are happy with the present system, or want the present system without a luxury tax.

A small sample size to be sure, but very one sided results.

Beyond the numbers, I found some of the comments on the thread to be thought provoking, even moving. especially the one from the guy whose father used to be an avid Royals fan, now his dad never even watches the games.

And the posters son also has no interest in MLB.. as so many of the younger generation. Kind of sad.

These smaller market fans like the Royals fans are the ones whom MLB has been ignoring for too long.

[#1PaFan]

Only briefly I have much to do and also some interesting discussions on other forums. Some of these forums are far more receptive to the idea of a hard salary cap than this Yankee forum is.


For example, speaking of the Royals: It seems the Royals fans are not blaming their problems on their manager. At least not entirely.

http://royalboard.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=10131


44 Voters, 76% want a salary cap, or a cap and a floor.
Only 8% are happy with the present system, or want the present system without a luxury tax.

A small sample size to be sure, but very one sided results.

Beyond the numbers, I found some of the comments on the thread to be thought provoking, even moving. especially the one from the guy whose father used to be an avid Royals fan, now his dad never even watches the games.

And the posters son also has no interest in MLB.. as so many of the younger generation. Kind of sad.

These smaller market fans like the Royals fans are the ones whom MLB has been ignoring for too long.

LMFAO!!!

[Iceman778]

thanks for the info

[YankeePride1967]

Only briefly I have much to do and also some interesting discussions on other forums. Some of these forums are far more receptive to the idea of a hard salary cap than this Yankee forum is.


For example, speaking of the Royals: It seems the Royals fans are not blaming their problems on their manager. At least not entirely.

http://royalboard.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=10131


44 Voters, 76% want a salary cap, or a cap and a floor.
Only 8% are happy with the present system, or want the present system without a luxury tax.

A small sample size to be sure, but very one sided results.

Beyond the numbers, I found some of the comments on the thread to be thought provoking, even moving. especially the one from the guy whose father used to be an avid Royals fan, now his dad never even watches the games.

And the posters son also has no interest in MLB.. as so many of the younger generation. Kind of sad.

These smaller market fans like the Royals fans are the ones whom MLB has been ignoring for too long.

What's kind of sad is you keep coming back posting fallacy after fallacy, get proven wrong each time and still come back for more.

[Saxmania]

They would fare far better if MLB had a hard salary cap, or other mechanism to help the small market size teams.

They already do. It's called revenue sharing.

Be seeing you,

Saxmania

[snarkerella]

Only briefly I have much to do and also some interesting discussions on other forums. Some of these forums are far more receptive to the idea of a hard salary cap than this Yankee forum is.


For example, speaking of the Royals: It seems the Royals fans are not blaming their problems on their manager. At least not entirely.

http://royalboard.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=10131


44 Voters, 76% want a salary cap, or a cap and a floor.
Only 8% are happy with the present system, or want the present system without a luxury tax.

A small sample size to be sure, but very one sided results.

Beyond the numbers, I found some of the comments on the thread to be thought provoking, even moving. especially the one from the guy whose father used to be an avid Royals fan, now his dad never even watches the games.

And the posters son also has no interest in MLB.. as so many of the younger generation. Kind of sad.

These smaller market fans like the Royals fans are the ones whom MLB has been ignoring for too long.

This may be the most amazing thing I've ever read.

[NYYDragoon]

Did Bobby just cite a poll on some messageboard?

[snarkerella]

Did Bobby just cite a poll on some messageboard?

How dare you discount the moving posts on that message board, NYYDragoon! Those 44 stories are PERSONAL!

[teknetic]

It's not just any message board, it's the "official" team message boards where the worst discussions regarding the sport take place--no surprise bobbyjr lurks there.

[Yankees Empire]

If the Royals scored more hits than misses with the draft, if they didn't waste time with reclamation projects like Willie Bloomquist, Yuniesky Betancourt, and Kyle Farnsworth, if they didn't squander their precious dollars on cynical free agent signings- in other words if the Royals were an absolute model franchise and STILL couldn't manage to contend, THEN I MIGHT listen to a sob story about how money imbalances are destroying the game.

Until the Royals (and the Pirates, AND THE ORIOLES) can clean their own house, draft smartly, and avoid scratching the dumb free agent itch panic button, I have ZERO pity for cries of unfairness- especially when they come from somebody who's grasp on truthfulness is tenuous at the very most.

[NelsonMuntz]

If the Royals scored more hits than misses with the draft, if they didn't waste time with reclamation projects like Willie Bloomquist, Yuniesky Betancourt, and Kyle Farnsworth, if they didn't squander their precious dollars on cynical free agent signings- in other words if the Royals were an absolute model franchise and STILL couldn't manage to contend, THEN I MIGHT listen to a sob story about how money imbalances are destroying the game.

Until the Royals (and the Pirates, AND THE ORIOLES) can clean their own house, draft smartly, and avoid scratching the dumb free agent itch panic button, I have ZERO pity for cries of unfairness- especially when they come from somebody who's grasp on truthfulness is tenuous at the very most.

Nicely stated.

[YankeePride1967]

If the Royals scored more hits than misses with the draft, if they didn't waste time with reclamation projects like Willie Bloomquist, Yuniesky Betancourt, and Kyle Farnsworth, if they didn't squander their precious dollars on cynical free agent signings- in other words if the Royals were an absolute model franchise and STILL couldn't manage to contend, THEN I MIGHT listen to a sob story about how money imbalances are destroying the game.

Until the Royals (and the Pirates, AND THE ORIOLES) can clean their own house, draft smartly, and avoid scratching the dumb free agent itch panic button, I have ZERO pity for cries of unfairness- especially when they come from somebody who's grasp on truthfulness is tenuous at the very most.