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    Re: The 2010-2011 New York Knicks Thread

    Notice, no one nationally wants to see the Knicks get Lebron?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLURPEE
    Notice, no one nationally wants to see the Knicks get Lebron?
    Yeah, but it would be great to see him in Chicago who (post MJ) certainly deserves another multi title winning mega star. Go figure.
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    It's the anti-New York bias. People across the country have no interest in seeing the Knicks become good/relevant again.

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    If the Knicks get LBJ and Bosh, that team will be better than the current Cavs in 2 seasons, if not less. Gallo can really shoot and is a lot tougher than I anticipated. His only problem is that he looks like he's running in slow motion when at full speed.

    If only we still had the #9 pick...siiiigh. When is our next first round pick again? 2013?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axon
    If the Knicks get LBJ and Bosh, that team will be better than the current Cavs in 2 seasons, if not less. Gallo can really shoot and is a lot tougher than I anticipated. His only problem is that he looks like he's running in slow motion when at full speed.

    If only we still had the #9 pick...siiiigh. When is our next first round pick again? 2013?
    While their next guaranteed 1st round pick is next year, it could very easily be in 3 weeks at the 2010 draft if they choose to buy a pick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axon
    If the Knicks get LBJ and Bosh, that team will be better than the current Cavs in 2 seasons, if not less. Gallo can really shoot and is a lot tougher than I anticipated. His only problem is that he looks like he's running in slow motion when at full speed.

    If only we still had the #9 pick...siiiigh. When is our next first round pick again? 2013?
    While I don't think he'll ever be what you consider fast, I do believe we're going to see his athleticism increase for a few reasons. First is that he was still recovering from the back surgery for a fair amount of last season so we've never seen the best of him athletically. Second, he now has a full offseason to work on his conditioning and overall fitness. You have to believe they've got him doing some plyometrics to go along with what I imagine is a pretty vigorous weight lifting routine. Third, he's not at his physical peak yet. He won't peak athletically for 4-5 years so there's that to look forward to. Also, there's every chance that once he matures physically he'll play power forward against guys much less likely to be quicker than he is. Finally, the type of game he has the tools for is not one that requires great foot speed. He has all of the tools to play the game like Dirk plays it except that his body is not as mature yet. I would much rather see him develop a nice post game where he can fade away and bully some smaller guys down low than have him try and blow by people off the dribble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyhughes22
    While I don't think he'll ever be what you consider fast, I do believe we're going to see his athleticism increase for a few reasons. First is that he was still recovering from the back surgery for a fair amount of last season so we've never seen the best of him athletically. Second, he now has a full offseason to work on his conditioning and overall fitness. You have to believe they've got him doing some plyometrics to go along with what I imagine is a pretty vigorous weight lifting routine. Third, he's not at his physical peak yet. He won't peak athletically for 4-5 years so there's that to look forward to. Also, there's every chance that once he matures physically he'll play power forward against guys much less likely to be quicker than he is. Finally, the type of game he has the tools for is not one that requires great foot speed. He has all of the tools to play the game like Dirk plays it except that his body is not as mature yet. I would much rather see him develop a nice post game where he can fade away and bully some smaller guys down low than have him try and blow by people off the dribble.
    I understand. I just think pairing him with an athletic freak like LeBron and Bosh won't be that successful, as he won't be able to keep up. But as a guy isolated at the top of the key waiting for LBJ to penetrate and draw attention, he could be an absolute assassin. Something LBJ could certainly use. For example, when Mo Williams was on, they killed teams. When he was off, they couldn't do .................

    I hope your optimism about his development turns out to be accurate. I'm not so certain. I realize he has been limited by the back injury, which is extremely serious, but IMO he will never match the athleticism of a good forward in the NBA. He just doesn't have that spring in his step. Watch his jumpers, he doesn't really get up there much. But like you said, we don't need him getting above the rim to grab boards, we just need him to overwhelm smaller guys and post up for fade away jumpers.

    You ever notice how big his feet are? They're ridiculous and look like clown shoes. ROFL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snatch Catch
    While their next guaranteed 1st round pick is next year, it could very easily be in 3 weeks at the 2010 draft if they choose to buy a pick.
    Sadly (or, not), if they are successful and get 2 max FA's, their pick next year won't be nearly as high as the one this year
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yankee Fan in Boston
    Sadly (or, not), if they are successful and get 2 max FA's, their pick next year won't be nearly as high as the one this year
    Can't you just see a scenario playing out where the Knicks become like their Garden-mates the Rangers..perpetually mediocre?
    Signing Lebron would be a magnet for getting another top tier FA. Not getting him would make the Knicks a lot less attractive to other top FAs like Bosh. Is it feasible to use all your cap space to turn the Knicks from a bottom feeder into a middle of the pack team?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JfromJersey
    Can't you just see a scenario playing out where the Knicks become like their Garden-mates the Rangers..perpetually mediocre?
    Signing Lebron would be a magnet for getting another top tier FA. Not getting him would make the Knicks a lot less attractive to other top FAs like Bosh. Is it feasible to use all your cap space to turn the Knicks from a bottom feeder into a middle of the pack team?
    It's completely feasible, but I don't think Donny & Co. use up the cap space to use it up. If they can't find a couple max guys to sign, I think they put together the best team they can on short contracts, and continue to wait for a superstar next year or seek a trade. I don't see them becoming impatient after all that work to get out of the cap hole the team was in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JfromJersey
    Is it feasible to use all your cap space to turn the Knicks from a bottom feeder into a middle of the pack team?
    Walsh has said he is conciously going to avoid this.

    In my mind the Knicks only get Lebron or Wade if they come with another big FA. They're not getting either of those guys solo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axon
    I understand. I just think pairing him with an athletic freak like LeBron and Bosh won't be that successful, as he won't be able to keep up. But as a guy isolated at the top of the key waiting for LBJ to penetrate and draw attention, he could be an absolute assassin. Something LBJ could certainly use. For example, when Mo Williams was on, they killed teams. When he was off, they couldn't do .................

    I hope your optimism about his development turns out to be accurate. I'm not so certain. I realize he has been limited by the back injury, which is extremely serious, but IMO he will never match the athleticism of a good forward in the NBA. He just doesn't have that spring in his step. Watch his jumpers, he doesn't really get up there much. But like you said, we don't need him getting above the rim to grab boards, we just need him to overwhelm smaller guys and post up for fade away jumpers.

    You ever notice how big his feet are? They're ridiculous and look like clown shoes. ROFL.
    Yeah I think he'll be fine. He doesn't need to be ahead of the play on the break, just do enough so that if it's not an easy 2 on the fastbreak he can get himself in a corner by the time the ball starts being rotated. I hadn't noticed the size of his feet lol but he's 6'10-6'11 so for the sake of balance they should be pretty big.

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    I'm glad the best Knick of all time, Julius Erving, got a shout out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joba-Walkee
    I'm glad the best Knick of all time, Julius Erving, got a shout out.
    He said NY basketball, which is where Erving played
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joba-Walkee
    I'm glad the best Knick of all time, Julius Erving, got a shout out.
    Geez I know your basketball team plays in the armpit of the east coast but could you have a bigger chip on your shoulder?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yankee Fan in Boston
    He said NY basketball, which is where Erving played
    He said NYC basketball. Erving played in Nassau county.

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    Geez I know your basketball team plays in the armpit of the east coast
    ...says someone from Long Island...
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    Quote Originally Posted by RYMASTER or Ryan_Yankees
    ...says someone from Long Island...
    Haha, really? I'll give you this, you're brave. Jersey is known for orange douchebags hellbent on shaming Italians, sloppy drunk girls with 80's haircuts and the smell of garbage. Long Island is known for the Hamptons and being home to some of the most exclusive real estate and night life in the world. Try again.

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    Haha, really? I'll give you this, you're brave. Jersey is known for orange douchebags hellbent on shaming Italians, sloppy drunk girls with 80's haircuts and the smell of garbage. Long Island is known for the Hamptons and being home to some of the most exclusive real estate and night life in the world. Try again.
    You're thinking of the shore. Everyone hates the shore, outside of orange douchebages hellbent on shaming Italians, sloppy drunk girls with 80s hair cuts, and people who smell like garbage.

    We're also known for having lots of Indians, but I wouldn't say we smelt like "garbage".

    We also have lots of eggplant.

    Long Island is also where Jay Gatsby got popped. Do you really want to be known for that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joba-Walkee
    You're thinking of the shore. Everyone hates the shore, outside of orange douchebages hellbent on shaming Italians, sloppy drunk girls with 80s hair cuts, and people who smell like garbage.

    We're also known for having lots of Indians, but I wouldn't say we smelt like "garbage".

    We also have lots of eggplant.

    Long Island is also where Jay Gatsby got popped. Do you really want to be known for that?
    Hey every place has it's flaws. When I wrote the post to you I was joking. I'm just saying if we're talking about who has the worse rap it's definitely Jersey. In no way am I in love with Long Island or do I really hate Jersey.

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    Does every thread have to delve into the merits of New Jersey?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyhughes22
    Haha, really? I'll give you this, you're brave. Jersey is known for orange douchebags hellbent on shaming Italians, sloppy drunk girls with 80's haircuts and the smell of garbage. Long Island is known for the Hamptons and being home to some of the most exclusive real estate and night life in the world. Try again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snatch Catch
    This post wins Ironic Post Of The Decade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cyhughes22
    Hey every place has it's flaws. When I wrote the post to you I was joking. I'm just saying if we're talking about who has the worse rap it's definitely Jersey. In no way am I in love with Long Island or do I really hate Jersey.
    I was being completely serious actually. Eggplant, Indians, and fictional books are usually my trump cards for winning any disagreement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joba-Walkee
    I was being completely serious actually. Eggplant, Indians, and fictional books are usually my trump cards for winning any disagreement.
    Well played sir. I feel well and truly bested now.

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    Anyone see Lebron on Nightline after the game? He was talking about how great Knick history is and was holding a Knick cap. sigh



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    According to Hahn that was an old interview from a couple of weeks ago.

    The tour that he's allegedly planning sounds ridiculous.

    http://nba.fanhouse.com/2010/06/04/s...y-tour/?synd=1

    LOS ANGELES -- In honor of LeBron James and his apparent insistence on being talked about during the NBA Finals, we interrupt coverage to share some free agency news about the league's King of hype.

    According to a source with first-hand knowledge of James' plans, the Larry King interview that was shot Tuesday and will air Friday on CNN was only the beginning of his elaborate scheme to draw unprecedented attention to his courting. James, according to the source, is in discussions with Nike to create a new shoe for every visit along his free agent path starting July 1. The shoes would have the date of the visit printed, with James already having scripted his itinerary for the Free Agency Tour 2010.

    The source insists that he'll head for New York first to visit with the Knicks, and then spend time with the Nets. Chicago will be next, with the Bulls hoping he wants to follow in the footsteps of Michael Jordan and become the Windy City's beloved star. Depending on the level of sustained public interest and the discussions with the teams in the respective cities, James will decide at that point whether to continue on to Miami and possibly Los Angeles to see the Clippers.

    That final stop would be Hollywood style in every way, with James simply putting on a show intended to create buzz in yet another big city and maintain the mystery of where he will go. And for what it's worth, the source expects James to return to the Cavaliers by the time the circus comes to an end.
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    Re: The 2010-2011 New York Knicks Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by SLURPEE
    Anyone see Lebron on Nightline after the game? He was talking about how great Knick history is and was holding a Knick cap. sigh







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    I love Gallo. If he's healthy I see a huge leap forward for him next year.

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    You may be his biggest fan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THEBOSS84
    You may be his biggest fan.
    I can't wait until next year when he really blows up and we get to see the blurry camera phone picture of you with your arm around him awkwardly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snatch Catch
    I can't wait until next year when he really blows up and we get to see the blurry camera phone picture of you with your arm around him awkwardly.
    As long as you remember that the picture still exists.

    And my arm wasn't around him in the picture, just checked.

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    I didn't remember, actually, I was making a prediction that it was coming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snatch Catch
    I didn't remember, actually, I was making a prediction that it was coming.
    You're so full of you know what. You know that picture exists from last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THEBOSS84
    You're so full of you know what. You know that picture exists from last year.
    I actually had forgotten.
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    THEBOSS84 meets THECOCK8...



    ...and that is your arm around him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snatch Catch
    According to Hahn that was an old interview from a couple of weeks ago.

    The tour that he's allegedly planning sounds ridiculous.

    http://nba.fanhouse.com/2010/06/04/s...y-tour/?synd=1
    The shoe report has already been denied by Nike... can it please just be July 1 already?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Panamaniac42
    THEBOSS84 meets THECOCK8...



    ...and that is your arm around him.
    Damn, you FB stalker.

    It's not my arm, I think it's an optical illusion. My head looks huge because he was actually a few feet behind me.

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    This is the kind of picture lovers take. Look at the look on Gallo's face like he did something he shouldn't have but sort of liked it. Smut peddler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joba-Walkee
    You're thinking of the shore. Everyone hates the shore, outside of orange douchebages hellbent on shaming Italians, sloppy drunk girls with 80s hair cuts, and people who smell like garbage.
    Except none of those people are, you know, from the shore.

    But I digress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kluivert4Ever
    I like it, but while the lyrics are perfect, the song itself is really, really soft.
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    I think I can cross Charles Oakley off my list of favorite Knicks. It's bad enough that he's trying to convince Lebron not to come - whatever, I don't think he's coming anyway - but taking shots at Patrick Ewing is unforgivable, lol

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    WorldWideWes says he's been telling everyone LeBron is going to the Bulls:
    http://www.rotoworld.com/content/pla...=136608&spln=1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketbooster
    I think I can cross Charles Oakley off my list of favorite Knicks. It's bad enough that he's trying to convince Lebron not to come - whatever, I don't think he's coming anyway - but taking shots at Patrick Ewing is unforgivable, lol

    http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knick...VpRiAoUV1MIeJM

    WTF Oak???

    Motherf*cker.

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    So many rumors about Lebron. Nobody knows. He probably hasn't even made up his mind yet. If he has it's doubtful he's told anyone knowing it will go public.

    Lets try to dissect this.

    I think his main options are Knicks, Bulls an Cleveland. There is Miami and Clippers. I don't buy the latter because why would he go to Miami? Wade is there and in terms of basketball it doesn't fit. Someone like Stoudamire and Bosh fit better with Wade.
    Clippers are another team I don't buy him going to. Lebron seems like he likes a lot of attention and to be in the spot light. So why would he sigh with the Clippers? Who are second fiddle to the Lakers? Just doesn't make sense.

    Bulls-Can you honestly tell me the situation would be so much greater than say the Knicks? Bulls can only only afford ONE max player. In terms of basketball, Rose does not compliment Lebron. Everyone on the media seems to be getting excited about that potential duo but ignoring both players games.
    Noah is a nice player but the someone that will be the difference in winning a championship imo. The rest of the roster is okay.

    Cleveland-I doubt he's going back there. He's shown no indication. Again here's where the media ignores things. They are making it all about the coach there. Totally ignoring that the cast in Cleveland sucks. They have no cap room to sign a FA and get help for Lebron. No instead it's about Tom Izzo. And somehow he will be the difference in Lebron coming back.

    Knicks-The media is completely overlooking that the Knicks make the most sense. They are the only team that can add two max players. Give Lebron the option on who he wants to play with.
    Curry can you get you something. Gallanri looks to be a good supporting player. From what I saw late in the season, Tony Douglas is the exact type of PG you want playing with Lebron. He can shoot and play defense.
    Everyone seems to be too caught up in "how are they going to fill the rest of the roster out". Therefore dismissing the Knicks as a viable option.
    Everything isn't going to happen in one year anyway. Who's to say that in 2 years the Knicks won't have a center that plays solid D and rebounds? Or one of the best benches in the NBA.

    Realistically if they get Lebron, you're looking for at 2 years the most at a possible championship. He will have a one year grace period. Think playoffs in the first year not championship.

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    I heard on the radio this am that Izzo is close to signing with Cleveland. Why would he sign with them unless he knows Lebron is staying. I could see Lebron sign a 3 year deal with Cleveland. I hope i'm wrong and he signs with the Knicks.

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    Come On, Lebron
    What a terrible terrible video. That's really lousy. I am pretty sure that did not help the cause.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mitch300
    I heard on the radio this am that Izzo is close to signing with Cleveland. Why would he sign with them unless he knows Lebron is staying. I could see Lebron sign a 3 year deal with Cleveland. I hope i'm wrong and he signs with the Knicks.
    I've heard a few reporters/journalists float this out there. The opinion was that James absolutely loves the attention and loves basically being begged to come to certain cities. The reporters talked about him signing a short term deal with an opt out clause, and going through this whole thing in another couple years.

    If he wants to win championships, this is probably not the way to go. I think we'll really get a glimpse into LeBron and what his priorities are when he makes he decision.

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