Nasty.
Nasty.
The coming of The Carpenter.
“I love to hit. I want to hit .300, .400, .500. I just love to hit.”
Would be nice if he actually had a chance of making the team.
Calmer than you are.
He'll be in the bigs for most of the season, even though I doubt he'll make the team out of ST. There's always turnover in the pen, of course, and I have to imagine he'd be the first in line to be called up (unless we need a long man).
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If Logan makes the team over him, I'm stabbing someone.
Calmer than you are.
Groundballs.
The coming of The Carpenter.
“I love to hit. I want to hit .300, .400, .500. I just love to hit.”
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Albaladejo is the new Sean Henn. Not very good, but will linger for years.
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+1...
Never left the Betances bandwagon.
Down With Logan
"First batter up well here's the pitch: it's a curve. Second batter up because the first got served"
He's one of those players whos names are unpronounceable.
Meh-lan-son?
in fairness to logan, he looked pretty good himself. there is bound to be bullpen changes but there might be less than usual this season. either way, knowing that melancon, logan, edwar (plus others) are our depth makes me feel quite confident.
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Logan was throwing pretty hard but he seems to just be another relief pitcher with decent stuff but cant throw strikes. Guys like that are a dime a dozen. Logan being left handed shouldnt give him a leg up on Melancon or anyone else who pitches better than him.
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Has Edwar passed through waivers yet?
Agree on all points.
Never left the Betances bandwagon.
LHP always get extra chances. That's especially of the hard throwing ones, though I don't necessarily put Logan in that category. A good example of this is Matt Thornton who the M's basically gave up on.
* Igawa is the exceptional exception.
Diplomacy is the ability to tell a man to go to hell so that he looks forward to making the trip
i can't disagree with any of this. it would be nice however if he were able to give us options, and perhaps perform well for a few months. if all he does is dominate lefties for half a year, i'll be more than happy considering he was a throw in. if he makes the team following a good spring, we really shouldn't complain.
Bring tea for the Tillerman; Steak for the son; Wine for the woman who made the rain come; Seagulls sing your hearts away; 'Cause while the sinners sin, the children play ...
He'll be this year's version of last year's DRob.
40ish innings that will be for the most part superb/great.
Fistpumping like a champion.
Why? He averaged 93.3 on the heater last year. Do you not consider that "hard-throwing"?
93.4 is considered hard throwing.
He threw his FB 1.4 MPH (fangraphs was 91.9) faster than in 2008, but lost quite a bit of vertical and downward movement on the pitch.
I assume FA and FF are the same pitch.
2008
Type Count Selection Velocity (mph) Vertical (in) Horizontal (in) Spin Angle (deg) Spin Rate (rpm) FA 336 46.8% 92.0 8.11 10.26 0 0
2009
Type Count Selection Velocity (mph) Vertical (in) Horizontal (in) Spin Angle (deg) Spin Rate (rpm) FF 146 56.6% 93.4 6.62 8.94 127 2,330
Diplomacy is the ability to tell a man to go to hell so that he looks forward to making the trip
he changed his arm angle last year
Thanks, good point.
Diplomacy is the ability to tell a man to go to hell so that he looks forward to making the trip
still don't want him on the team though
Only as a last resort... I hope.
Diplomacy is the ability to tell a man to go to hell so that he looks forward to making the trip
These are really small sample sizes. Perhaps he changed his arm angle to get more velo?
Now that I think of it, I've never seen anyone with over 18 inches of movement (combined) on their fastball. That can't be correct, I'm not sure that's even possible.
Why's that? (I hate the fact I can't write "Why?")
Calmer than you are.
ruined?
because i think melancon is a more viable option, and seeing as how logan has never been very good in the majors, there's no reason to believe he'll suddenly find himself in NY
Oh, I thought you were referring to Melancon.
Calmer than you are.
I think he's certainly capable of that, and would sign up for it in a minute.
he's a reliever. they are inconsistent. the most average of relievers can have good years. when they do, you go with it while you can. if logan throws well this spring, why not take him north? he might keeps it going for a few months.
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If Mitre makes the team over Melancon, prepare the shoes for vomiting.
The coming of The Carpenter.
“I love to hit. I want to hit .300, .400, .500. I just love to hit.”
Boone Logan will...
Calmer than you are.
how has Melancon looked this spring?
Remember when Billy Traber burst onto the scene with a good spring training?
Pitchers who aren't good pitchers...don't pitch well.
well said!Pitchers who aren't good pitchers...don't pitch well.
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Haha. good point.
Sounds like a McCarver-ism. Something he would just, out of knowhere, spurt out during a telecast.
#27and still Counting.
That's definitely a possibility. However if you look at the bullpen right now, you almost have to wonder if its basically set:
Mo
Joba/Hughes
D-Rob
Marte
Park
Ace
Gaudin/Mitre (one of them will be traded)
Unless one of Ace, Joba, or Hughes gets sent down I can't see this not being the opening day pen. I guess since we don't need a 5th starter for the first couple weeks perhaps whoever wins the 5th spot will start in Scranton so they are ready to start when needed, but otherwise I think you have to assume that both Logan and Melancon are slated for AAA.
Good chance, but I don't think it's a big deal who starts with the team. I'd guess Melancon will get a call up fairly early (assuming he pitches well in SWB) and be with the team for most of the year
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having more than one long man/swingman in the pen is a waste of space... honestly, i'd get rid of both gaudin and mitre if given the chance
I don't see the point of two long men in a 7 man pen.
Good so far, but he was not great last night. He only gave up 1 run in 2 innings, but his control was off......
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girardi is doing a nice job of pumping up meat tray, a steady drumbeat of praise how much better he is this yr. maybe that is the kiss of death pre-trade ??
Gaudin, Park, and Aceves are all pretty flexibile in the roles they can play. Any of three could be a long reliever and any of the three could be a 1-2 inning guy.
Mitre is the only guy in our pen that is straight up long reliever.
Also while in theory we may be able to get rid of both Gaudin and Mitre I just can't see us trading both and limiting our rotation depth. I think we like both Gaudin and Mitre as potential spot starters. I think whoever we keep is the long reliever and probably the 6th starter. And Ace and Park will mostly pitch 1-2 innings.
In short while we are likely to deal one of Mitre or Gaudin we're not likely to deal both meaning one of them is in our pen. Park is already guaranteed a spot and unless we want Ace starting games in AAA he will be in the ML bullpen as well.
sums it up pretty well
Baseball is life;
the rest is just details.
Aceves is not a "long reliever." He's a good reliever that's also capable of giving you multiple innings. Gaudin has also proven to be very good against right handers so he can be a matchup guy if need be. Because they can be effective as short relievers, I think the fact that they can also give multiple innings is a massive plus as opposed to a negative.
Win one for The Boss.
One should be traded and the other should be released if he can't be traded too. Aceves is a better starter and reliever than both of them. They should give that spot to Melancon and let him start the season pitching the 6th/7th. I want Hughes to start in AAA, there will be an injury.
The coming of The Carpenter.
“I love to hit. I want to hit .300, .400, .500. I just love to hit.”
Considering that there's a negative infinity chance of that happening, Melancon isn't going to be in the 'pen to start the year.
Despite the fact Gaudin has been terrible this spring and Mitre (apparently) has naked pictures of Girardi, I think Gaudin will make the team.
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Win #28 for George.
How many options does he have left?
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