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    Gritty.

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    4 out of 5

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    shortest guy on the roster.
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    He's all up on that kool-aid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by teknetic
    He's all up on that kool-aid.
    DRINK UP!

    "First batter up well here's the pitch: it's a curve. Second batter up because the first got served"

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    Will have at least a 90 OPS+
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    was just about to post that.. thanks ahole
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePinStripes
    Will have at least a 90 OPS+
    that, 30 plus steals and very good defense should be more than enough from our number 9 hitter.
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    I love Brett Gardner.. and I really hope he starts in Center.. this kid is awesome to watch and just the kinda of "piece" that makes this team a complete team. A team that is a threat in all facets of the game.
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    Re: 2010 Brett Gardner Performance Thread

    Per Lohud:

    Today’s lineup against the Astros, as promised, looks a lot like the expected Opening Day lineup.

    Derek Jeter SS
    Nick Johnson DH
    Mark Teixeira 1B
    Alex Rodriguez 3B
    Robinson Cano 2B
    Jorge Posada C
    Curtis Granderson LF
    Nick Swisher RF
    Brett Gardner CF

    Looks like Gardner has the inside track to start the season in CF.
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    I freakin love that lineup.

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    Re: 2010 Brett Gardner Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by OldYankeeFan
    Looks like Gardner has the inside track to start the season in CF.
    I'm not sure. Including today games, Curtis Granderson has started in LF 2 times while Gardner has started in LF 3 times. Both of them have started in CF 6 times if my counting is correct.

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    I think Joe wants to use spring to see if Granderson/Gardner can handle LF. I think you'll see each split time in CF/LF. reading the ball in a corner OF spot is a bit different from CF. Most can make the adjustment pretty easy but it does take a bit a of getting used too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by THEBOSS84
    I freakin love that lineup.
    i tend to agree, even tho we have some new issues: nick staying healthy, cano hitting w RISP, grandy hitting LHP, and getting some MLB production out of the 9 spot. i would really like to see one of the 9 spot guys step up in the next few weeks ............. paging brett/winn/thames/hoffmann ............ hellllllooooooooooooo .........

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    Who is pitching today?
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    Burnett, Rivera, and Hughes as far as I know.
    Javy Vazquez's 2010 non-Cy Young season: 4-10, 7.15 ERA, 140 Ks, 170 IP.

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    Granderson and Swisher batting 7th and 8th is cheating.
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    Re: 2010 Brett Gardner Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by teknetic
    Granderson and Swisher batting 7th and 8th is cheating.
    mwahahahahahaha
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    via lohud:

    "Two-hit day for Gardner, who just tripled to center field. Shane Victorino tried to make a diving catch but missed, and Gardner jogged into third. For a while there, it looked like he had a shot at an inside-the-park home run, but he was given the stop sign. He scored on a sac fly by Nick Johnson."

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    i really don't like it when he hits the ball into the air... he doesn't really have the gap power to do such things

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    Gardner needs to be able to hit the ball over infielders' heads.

    He doesn't have to do it often, but he needs to be able to hit line drives for bloop hits between OF and IFs with some fluke xbase hits.

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    Enrique Wilson once left ST hitting over .400. I put zero stock into any of these numbers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TEPLimey
    Enrique Wilson once left ST hitting over .400. I put zero stock into any of these numbers.
    That's fair. But at a certain point you have to give guys some credit. Brett is playing well and doing his part to try and earn a spot in the outfield and that's all you can ask. He really hasn't ever gotten the kind of extended run that say Melky got so I don't think it's fair to lump him in with Enrique Wilson until he's been given a long enough time to prove that he is or isn't that awful of a player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyhughes22
    That's fair. But at a certain point you have to give guys some credit. Brett is playing well and doing his part to try and earn a spot in the outfield and that's all you can ask. He really hasn't ever gotten the kind of extended run that say Melky got so I don't think it's fair to lump him in with Enrique Wilson until he's been given a long enough time to prove that he is or isn't that awful of a player.
    .240/.345/.320 is "playing well and doing his part" ?

    If anything, Brett is eeking by while Winn and Thames flounder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TEPLimey
    .240/.345/.320 is "playing well and doing his part" ?

    If anything, Brett is eeking by while Winn and Thames flounder.
    He hasn't lit it up for sure but 2 things in his favor are
    1 - he's been workingon his bunting, which if he's the starting LF (or CF) he's going to need to be good at.
    2 - he hasn't struck out hardly at all. with his speed putting the ball in play should lead to a high BABIP just because of the number of IF hits he'll leg out assuming he isn't hitting too many IF popups.

    Last year he hit what, close to .400 in spring and then proceeded to lose the starting job with a horrible April. I'd prefer he had a passable spring that carried over into a decent April instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TEPLimey
    .240/.345/.320 is "playing well and doing his part" ?

    If anything, Brett is eeking by while Winn and Thames flounder.
    He's had 25 at-bats. It's ridiculous to draw any conclusions from his statistics at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yankee Tripper
    He hasn't lit it up for sure but 2 things in his favor are
    1 - he's been workingon his bunting, which if he's the starting LF (or CF) he's going to need to be good at.
    2 - he hasn't struck out hardly at all. with his speed putting the ball in play should lead to a high BABIP just because of the number of IF hits he'll leg out assuming he isn't hitting too many IF popups.

    Last year he hit what, close to .400 in spring and then proceeded to lose the starting job with a horrible April. I'd prefer he had a passable spring that carried over into a decent April instead.
    Unfortunately, he's pretty prone to the pop-up. 14.9% last year, which is really bad. He's gonna have to get a lot better at not hitting pop-ups if he is ever going to be a high BABIP hitter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TEPLimey
    Enrique Wilson once left ST hitting over .400. I put zero stock into any of these numbers.
    i agree. the good thing is, doesn't sound like girardi does either !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yankee Fan in Boston
    He's had 25 at-bats. It's ridiculous to draw any conclusions from his statistics at this point.
    Uh, yeah. Hence my assertion that "I put zero stock in these numbers"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yankee Tripper
    1 - he's been workingon his bunting
    This. He bunted what? 10? 14 times? sorry, don't know the number off the top of my head. But even Gardner can't bunt for hits when he's doing it so much.

    He needs time with Kevin Long and get the full body swing back so he could hit more line drives. Not many, just enough to keep people honest enough for him to bunt for hits when he needs to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grizy
    This. He bunted what? 10? 14 times? sorry, don't know the number off the top of my head. But even Gardner can't bunt for hits when he's doing it so much.

    He needs time with Kevin Long and get the full body swing back so he could hit more line drives. Not many, just enough to keep people honest enough for him to bunt for hits when he needs to.
    Spring is the time to work on things. Garnder is going to be asked to lay down bunts both for hits and sacs this year so he needs to work on them.

    Agree he that he also needs to wok on his swing but there is only so much spring training and I guess the Yanks prioritized bunting over his swing mechanics. That may change as the season gets closer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yankee Tripper
    Spring is the time to work on things. Garnder is going to be asked to lay down bunts both for hits and sacs this year so he needs to work on them.

    Agree he that he also needs to wok on his swing but there is only so much spring training and I guess the Yanks prioritized bunting over his swing mechanics. That may change as the season gets closer.

    Yeah, my hope is he works with Long all year and ARod won't need Long for long therapy sessions (Long said he spent a lot of time last year just talking to ARod)

    Gardner's swing was really good last year before thumb injury. He was still opening the hips early but his entire body was behind the bat and it gave him quite a few line drives including a fluke HR.

    If he can get that back he's going to do better than 100OPS+

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    meh. so long as a pitcher isn't walking a lot of hitters or the batter isn't striking out a lot, spring training stats aren't very useful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TEPLimey
    .240/.345/.320 is "playing well and doing his part" ?

    If anything, Brett is eeking by while Winn and Thames flounder.
    the .345 OBP makes me think he is doing more than simply "eeking by". i do recognise that he might be facing pitchers who are trying to find their command. but whatever way you look at it, brett hitting ninth, playing very good defense with a decent OBP and super speed is not a bad thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ajra21
    the .345 OBP makes me think he is doing more than simply "eeking by". i do recognise that he might be facing pitchers who are trying to find their command. but whatever way you look at it, brett hitting ninth, playing very good defense with a decent OBP and super speed is not a bad thing.
    Don't worry. As soon as Brett gets his ST avg above .300, it will go from "Gardner is eeking by" to "It means less than nothing, it's ST".

    BTW, 2 hit game for Brett today, raising his ST avg to .281. I would have to think the 3rd OF job is pretty much sealed. He led off the game with a Bunt single on the first pitch, and in the 3rd he had a line drive triple down the LF line.
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    .281/.361/.406

    I'd sign up for something resembling that in the regular season.

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    He's going to be really fun to watch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by themgmt
    .281/.361/.406

    I'd sign up for something resembling that in the regular season.
    I think anyone would be dumb NOT to sign up for that.

    .361 OBP with his speed? fughedaboutit.

    Not to mention the defense he'd give us in LF. You'd be looking at a top 5 LF WAR-wise. Crawford can go find his contract elsewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by themgmt
    .281/.361/.406

    I'd sign up for something resembling that in the regular season.
    That's enough to make him a top 5 all-around CF...

    Yeah, I'd sign up for that too.

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    Last year I think I predicted .275/.340/.390/.730. If he didn't tail off after the thumb injury he would have bettered the projection across the board.

    .280/.360/.400

    Let's see it.

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    I see no reason why he won't have an OBP 350+, he has OBP skills. He always has. If he qualified last season, he would have been 16th in the AL in P/PA.
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    Re: 2010 Brett Gardner Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by JavyVazquezIsSick
    I see no reason why he won't have an OBP 350+, he has OBP skills. He always has. If he qualified last season, he would have been 16th in the AL in P/PA.
    I agree, and that's without consistantly putting his good swing (that he showed last spring) on the ball.
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    Gardner and Joba will exceed expectations this year.
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