2010 Brett Gardner Performance Thread

[grizy]

Exciting in tems of fun to watch, or value? Cuz frankly if only one of them can keep up their ridiculous level of production I'm going Hughes 10 out of 10 times.

But I'm loving what Gardner is doing. I've been a supporter for a long time, but he's going bat................ out there.

If it's just one I am taking Gardner 10 out of 10.

More value because he plays every day and he actually has only 1 year of MLB service time. Hughes goes into arbitration next year.

Watching wise I'll take Gardner too for the same reasons.

It also helps Elias rankings undervalue OBP and SB, keeping Gardner's prices low even late into his arbitration years.

At Gardner's current rate of production, we're talking about all-star appearance and MVP votes. With Granderson on the DL, there is a very good chance Gardner is going represent the Yankees OF at the all-star game (still long shot.)

Hughes is obviously on pace to be in top 5 CY votes (if not very top). Too bad he has innings limits.

[roblyo33]

If it's just one I am taking Gardner 10 out of 10.

More value because he plays every day and he actually has only 1 year of MLB service time. Hughes goes into arbitration next year.

Watching wise I'll take Gardner too for the same reasons.

It also helps Elias rankings undervalue OBP and SB, keeping Gardner's prices low even late into his arbitration years.

At Gardner's current rate of production, we're talking about all-star appearance and MVP votes. With Granderson on the DL, there is a very good chance Gardner is going represent the Yankees OF at the all-star game (still long shot.)

Hughes is obviously on pace to be in top 5 CY votes (if not very top). Too bad he has innings limits.

Please remove your pinstripe glasses.

[grizy]

Do I really need to capitalize, bold, underline, and italicize every "IF" post I make?

Especially when I am responding to an "if" post?

[roblyo33]

Do I really need to capitalize, bold, underline, and italicize every "IF" post I make?

Especially when I am responding to an "if" post?

Yes...

[groovitude]

"Brett Gardner is up to .429 (9 for 21) against lefty pitching and .342 overall. His solo shot off Buehrle was his first-ever in the majors against a lefty. ”I’ve always thought of him as as an everyday player because he hits lefties,” Joe Girardi said."

... WTF?

[delv]

... WTF?

what? he means Gardner's not a L/R platoon player and has never shown bad splits in the minors or majors

[ajra21]

Jacoby who?

you do have to say there is a significant chance that brett will end up by far the better player. for a start, he's better in the field and has a better arm. he also can walk a decent amount. i doubt jacoby would ever post a .370 plus OBP without having to hit .330 plus.

[grizy]

BA: .342
SLG: .438
OBP: .410
OPS: .848
SB: 11 (500PAs, on pace for 66)
R: 18 (500PAs, on pace for 108)

and

HR: 1 (500PAs, on pace for 6)

WRC+: 158.
wOBA (base component of WRC+): .411. Ranked 11 out of 74 qualified OFs (he just passed Damon and Crawford)

Incidentally Venon Wells is currently on fire batting with 1.075OPS with 8 HRs. Maybe he finally got tired of being a bum.

[OldYankeeFan]

WRC+: 158.
wOBA (base component of WRC+): .411. Ranked 11 out of 74 qualified OFs (he just passed Damon and Crawford)

Looks like his two months of > .400 OBP last year were NOT a fluke after all, but so far this year what is most impressive to me is his ability to take pitches, work the count and then HIT for BA after taking two strikes and down in the count.

[JSG]

another great play from brett yesterday: his hard slide into second breaking up the DP and keeping alive what turned into a 5-run inning:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/03/sp...tml?ref=sports

[PAULIEWALNUTS]

John Sterling does not have a signature call for "Gardie". I was listening to game while sitting in traffic when he hit the HR. I needed a little pick me up but Sterling had nothing. We need a Bret call for Sterling. How about "Gardner plants one!". Can anyone top that.

[Blazer]

I'm not going to eat my hat, but the crow is mighty tasty so far.

[JSG]

I'm not going to eat my hat, but the crow is mighty tasty so far.

.......... bon appetit !!

[ajra21]

John Sterling does not have a signature call for "Gardie". I was listening to game while sitting in traffic when he hit the HR. I needed a little pick me up but Sterling had nothing. We need a Bret call for Sterling. How about "Gardner plants one!". Can anyone top that.

[Yankee Tripper]

I'm not going to eat my hat, but the crow is mighty tasty so far.

I'm more than happy to join you in a double helping myself.

[THEBOSS84]

No one should eat any crow yet. It's May 3rd.

[stazsanity]

Thusfar:

(Brett + Robbie) > (Jacoby + Pedroia)

[IronCaballo4]

Gardy Goes Yardy

[OldYankeeFan]

Thusfar:

(Brett + Robbie) > (Jacoby + Pedroia)

By ALOT!

A combined wRC+ of 375 for Brett + Cano - vs - 251 for Jacoby + Pedroia

[ojo]

good to see him generate power...but what's got me most pleased is he's driving the ball into the ground it seems 4 times a game now.

[OldYankeeFan]

good to see him generate power...but what's got me most pleased is he's driving the ball into the ground it seems 4 times a game now.

Absolutely. I made mention of this a week or so ago showing his GB/FB rate as evidence that some of his swing changes seems to have eliminated a lot of those lazy little pop-ups to 3B, SS and short RF.

Infield FB
'09 ... 15%
'10 ... 6%

GB/FB rate
'09 ... .1.49
'10 ... 2.18

[Jasbro]

No one should eat any crow yet. It's May 3rd.

I have a couple of birds on stand-by, but I haven't plucked any feathers just yet for that exact reason.

[Snatch Catch]

John Sterling does not have a signature call for "Gardie". I was listening to game while sitting in traffic when he hit the HR. I needed a little pick me up but Sterling had nothing. We need a Bret call for Sterling. How about "Gardner plants one!". Can anyone top that.

"IT IS HIGH, IT IS FAR, IT IS GONE! GARDNER RAKES THE YARD, AND THE YANKEES GO BACK IN FRONT!

I can imagine him taking a step further if it happens in October and he can reference the leaves falling.

God, I loathe Sterling.

[THEBOSS84]

Brett Gardner is causing Carl Crawford to lose a lot of money.

[flymick24]

Brett Gardner is causing Carl Crawford to lose a lot of money.

that may be, but jayson werth's value will remain unaffected, and he's the yankees' real target, i believe

btw, your sig was a little premature, my friend

[THEBOSS84]

that may be, but jayson werth's value will remain unaffected, and he's the yankees' real target, i believe

btw, your sig was a little premature, my friend

Welcome back homie!

Werth's little nagging injuries this year sure aren't helping him much. Neither is his age.

[flymick24]

Welcome back homie!

Werth's little nagging injuries this year sure aren't helping him much. Neither is his age.

thanks bud, i was sent to my little corner to think about what i did wrong... only time will tell if i learned my lesson

werth will probably garner a shorter deal, which is attractive to me.. also, he's just a better hitter than crawford

[Yankee Tripper]

btw, your sig was a little premature, my friend

no, it may be outdated now but not premature.

[OldYankeeFan]

Welcome back homie!

Werth's little nagging injuries this year sure aren't helping him much. Neither is his age.

Neither is Gardner's cost controlled everyday play or Montero's huge RH bat.

I think we take a pass on both Crawford and Werth.

[THEBOSS84]

Neither is Gardner's play as an everyday player or Montero's huge RH bat.

I think we take a pass on both Crawford and Werth.

(That was my original point)

[flymick24]

no, it may be outdated now but not premature.

this could very well be the case, but i'll just continue posting balls out and see what transpires... not gonna change my opinions because of one little bump in the road

[Yankee Tripper]

this could very well be the case, but i'll just continue posting balls out and see what transpires... not gonna change my opinions because of one little bump in the road

no my point was you were for a time RO'd, thus theBoss84's sig was correct. It was not a prediction of your eventual demise.

[flymick24]

yeah, but i'm back from the dead and ready to do some damage (and by damage, i mean brain damage for those who read my posts)

[NYYDragoon]

Welcome back, mickums. Stop using illegal email addresses, you idiot.

[OldYankeeFan]

(That was my original point)

And I agree with it, in addition to Montero's RH bat as reasons to pass on Werth.

[THEBOSS84]

And I agree with it, in addition to Montero's RH bat as reasons to pass on Werth.

We'll just have to agree to agree.

[flymick24]

Welcome back, mickums. Stop using illegal email addresses, you idiot.

sorry, but flymick24@yourethemannowdog.com seemed so legit at the time

www.yourethemannowdog.com

[OldYankeeFan]

We'll just have to agree to agree.

Agreed.

[Yankee Tripper]

Next year's one FA signing of note will be CLiff Lee

[flymick24]

Agreed.

you two should get a chatroom and cyber

[THEBOSS84]

You tell me that quite often.

[flymick24]

You tell me that quite often.

agreeing with one another is just a subtle form of foreplay

[THEBOSS84]

I must agree.

[flymick24]

I must agree.

*drip*

[NYYDragoon]

sorry, but flymick24@yourethemannowdog.com seemed so legit at the time

www.yourethemannowdog.com

Pff, so 2005. I would have RO'd you too.

[Mark19]

hah, over at RotoWorld, their OF rankings for May have Ellsbury as the #6 fantasy OF in baseball while Gardner is #53

Matthew Pouliot is a big Red Sox homer but I didn't think he'd be that shameless

[flymick24]

hah, over at RotoWorld, their OF rankings for May have Ellsbury as the #6 fantasy OF in baseball while Gardner is #53

Matthew Pouliot is a big Red Sox homer but I didn't think he'd be that shameless

he was factoring in how handsome the players are... surprised ellsbury wasn't higher up on the list

[themgmt]

I'm thinking they will put Granderson in LF when he comes back to "ease the load on him coming off an injury" and they'll just leave him there. Thames can get half of the starts vs lefties for Granderson that way.

[PAULIEWALNUTS]

Glad to see Flymick back in action. Long live perversion and moral degeneration! Keep'm coming Fly.

[OldYankeeFan]

I'm thinking they will put Granderson in LF when he comes back to "ease the load on him coming off an injury" and they'll just leave him there. Thames can get half of the starts vs lefties for Granderson that way.

This make a lot of sense to me with Grandy giving up about 1/7 of his PA's (against the tougher lefties). The rest of Thames PA's will be spread out depending who's hot and who's not between Gardner, Swish and NJ.