The 2010 New York Jets Thread

[Melan-cynic]

Pass the champagne.

[JeffWeaverFan]

What a steal. Our team is looking pretty great. Hope Sanchez is ready to step up.

[TheManKnownAsMecca]

Wow, what an acquisition for the Jets.

[pjfan]

Hard to believe nobody would offer more than a 5th rounder for him, suspension and all.

Great move for the Jets.

[mentalgidget]

Hard to believe nobody would offer more than a 5th rounder for him, suspension and all.

Great move for the Jets.

Rumors are that the Jets did offer more...

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ng-his-tender/

[RYMASTER or Ryan_Yankees]

Any chance the NFL would stagger Edwards' and Holmes' suspensions?

[TheManKnownAsMecca]

The Jets are in good position this year and will then get to decide which receiver (Edwards or Holmes) gets big money from them next year.

[Snatch Catch]

Rumors are that the Jets did offer more...

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ng-his-tender/

That's more like "a rumor" and it doesn't seem very founded - the author even acknowledges it as such.

[PinstripePride]

I LOVE this. What a steal.

Anyone see Ochocinco on twitter complaining that the Jets need to be stopped?

[Kluivert4Ever]

The Jets basically got a young Plaxico Burress, great trade if he can stay out of trouble.

[Melan-cynic]

The Jets basically got a young Plaxico Burress, great trade if he can stay out of trouble.

I fail to see the comparison. It's a no-brainer move but they're totally different types of talents. Holmes is 5'11 and around 190 while Burress was a freakish athlete at 6'5, 230.

[Kluivert4Ever]

I fail to see the comparison. It's a no-brainer move but they're totally different types of talents. Holmes is 5'11 and around 190 while Burress was a freakish athlete at 6'5, 230.

Was thinking more of their personality though, they are both gifted with some amazing talents but their problems have been off the field and like Plax if Holmes can stay out of trouble oh my, kid is gonna rake. He was my second favourite recieiver behind Plax, this kid could just be fantastic if he got his head on straight.

[Snatch Catch]

Was thinking more of their personality though, they are both gifted with some amazing talents but their problems have been off the field and like Plax if Holmes can stay out of trouble oh my, kid is gonna rake. He was my second favourite recieiver behind Plax, this kid could just be fantastic if he got his head on straight.

Klu, the term "rake" only applies to hitting well in baseball, not doing anything things atheltically well in general.

[Brick Tamland]

Hard Knocks should prove interesting...

[Kluivert4Ever]

Klu, the term "rake" only applies to hitting well in baseball, not doing anything things atheltically well in general.

My bad

[kan_t]

The Jets basically got a young Plaxico Burress, great trade if he can stay out of trouble.

It only makes sense for the Steelers to make this trade if they view him as another Burress. Both have off-field issues. Both won't stay when they hit FA. Burress did help the Giants to win one. But the Steelers also won one right after they let Burress go. So I don't think their front office really care.

[Reggie Smith]

Kan_t has it.

Someone needed to be made a fall-guy here, and it wasn't going to be Ben. Holmes has had several run-ins with the law, and his tweeting wasn't going to endure him to the fanchise any longer. They have consistently shown to be a franchise that will jettison a player if they are going to cause problems, and that is what they have here.

I for one will miss him. In their last SB year, arguably three of the top five biggest plays of the season were made by Holmes. But, when you are tweeting that you are waking-n-baking, when you've already been busted once and possibly a second time is coming, time to go.

Like Burress, he can still play but I don't think he'll be long for the NFL.

[Snatch Catch]

Kan_t has it.

Someone needed to be made a fall-guy here, and it wasn't going to be Ben. Holmes has had several run-ins with the law, and his tweeting wasn't going to endure him to the fanchise any longer. They have consistently shown to be a franchise that will jettison a player if they are going to cause problems, and that is what they have here.

That sounds more like wishful thinking by idealistic Steeler fans rather than reality.

Up until this trade they've only shown the gumption to "take a stand" when it came to non-important personnel (see: Harrison, James). The Steeler Way that I've seen fans trumpeting seems very similar to the notion of Yankee Class - while there may be an element of truth to it, they'll get their hands dirty the same as everyone else when it comes to winning.

They traded him for the same reason that many other teams would have - his value to the francvhise was being comprimised by his off-field problems and coupled with his contract situation, he had become much more expendable.

[Mark19]

Kan_t has it.

Someone needed to be made a fall-guy here, and it wasn't going to be Ben. Holmes has had several run-ins with the law, and his tweeting wasn't going to endure him to the fanchise any longer. They have consistently shown to be a franchise that will jettison a player if they are going to cause problems, and that is what they have here.

I for one will miss him. In their last SB year, arguably three of the top five biggest plays of the season were made by Holmes. But, when you are tweeting that you are waking-n-baking, when you've already been busted once and possibly a second time is coming, time to go.

Like Burress, he can still play but I don't think he'll be long for the NFL.

What exactly have the Steelers shown? To borrow an excerpt from KSK

“If you go out to bars and get accused of raping chicks, we will totally trade some other guy and make this team ................tier. DON’T THINK WE WON’T DO IT.”


I have heard from many people now that this Holmes trade supposedly was meant to send a message to Roethlisberger. This is retarded on about nine different levels. Here now is how one would “send a message” to Big Ben regarding his offseason travails:


1. Call Ben.
2. Tell Ben: “Hey you, quit going out to bars a lot and getting accused of raping chicks. You s***head.”


That would be sending a message. You know what is NOT sending a message? Trading a Super Bowl MVP with problems of his own for basically nothing. That is not a message. That is a franchise hastily selling low on a valuable asset. DID YOU FOLKS NOT LEARN THIS IN FIRST GRADE MESSAGEOLOGY 101?

http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/...tml#more-25702

All the Steelers are showing is that they have an unnatural amount of affection for a damaged QB who has shown himself to be dangerously irresponsible and possibly criminal on multiple occasions.

[kan_t]

That sounds more like wishful thinking by idealistic Steeler fans rather than reality.

Up until this trade they've only shown the gumption to "take a stand" when it came to non-important personnel (see: Harrison, James). The Steeler Way that I've seen fans trumpeting seems very similar to the notion of Yankee Class - while there may be an element of truth to it, they'll get their hands dirty the same as everyone else when it comes to winning.

They traded him for the same reason that many other teams would have - his value to the francvhise was being comprimised by his off-field problems and coupled with his contract situation, he had become much more expendable.

I don't think all of their players are clean and good citizen. But the front office and owner do want to build up a good image. When your QB and No.1 WR got in trouble in the same year, it sure doens't help. And when they saw how thing turned out in Burress case and they have a WR who seems to step up this year. Trading Holmes is an easy decision for them to make.

[Jax Teller]

http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2010/04/12/i...t-their-minds/

[PlsDontTearDownY.S.]

Wow, Tannenbaum is really going all in this season. To get all of this done with the free agent restrictions while not losing the 1st round pick is pretty impressive.

[just-blaze]

Alright Tannenbaum.......lets go for the jugular.


Earl Thomas.

[Snatch Catch]

If Thomas fell enough, and the Jets actually traded up to get him within reason, I'd Joba fistpump until I needed to see Dr. Andrews.

[PinstripePride]

http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2010/04/12/i...t-their-minds/

I feel like this is the New York equivalent to when the Pats got Randy Moss for a moldy bag of lawn seed.




What are the NYYF Jets fans thought on the rumors of Jason Taylor coming to New York? I personally think he's a major douche, but if he can give us 5-10 sacks, I can't say I'm that against it. I'm done with the Ghost.

[Jax Teller]

I feel like this is the New York equivalent to when the Pats got Randy Moss for a moldy bag of lawn seed.




What are the NYYF Jets fans thought on the rumors of Jason Taylor coming to New York? I personally think he's a major douche, but if he can give us 5-10 sacks, I can't say I'm that against it. I'm done with the Ghost.

I don't care how much I dislike a player, regardless of the sport...if he can come to my team & contribute, I'd welcome him. I don't have to like him but I still cheer for the jersey first & foremost.

[PlsDontTearDownY.S.]

I don't like the idea of the Jets bending over backwards for Jason Taylor. I read in the Post today that a holdup in Taylor signing here is that he doesn't want to have to participate in offseason workouts. What a way to ingratiate yourself to your new team, should he end up signing. Every other new Jet is talking about how they can't wait to talk to their new teammates, go to practice, etc. and then you have Jason Taylor, of all people, making demands. I could maybe see it if he was still in his prime, but those days are long gone. Don't do us any favors, nuckfuts.

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/jets/...r9BM7ztANPQeIM

[PinstripePride]

I don't like the idea of the Jets bending over backwards for Jason Taylor. I read in the Post today that a holdup in Taylor signing here is that he doesn't want to have to participate in offseason workouts. What a way to ingratiate yourself to your new team, should he end up signing. Every other new Jet is talking about how they can't wait to talk to their new teammates, go to practice, etc. and then you have Jason Taylor, of all people, making demands. I could maybe see it if he was still in his prime, but those days are long gone. Don't do us any favors, nuckfuts.

Brett Favre 2.0?

[cyhughes22]

Brett Favre 2.0?

Except he's not as good as Brett Favre. I hate Jason Taylor not just as a Jets fan but as a man. Ever since he pulled that crap with the Dolphins where he was more interested in dancing like a fairy on TV than showing up to camp and committing himself to the team that signed his paychecks I've hated him. If we're going to have a diva on this team it had better be freaking prime Gastineau or LT, not this douche.

[PinstripePride]

Does anyone post over at TGG forums? There's a thread there about Leon Washington in which half the posters are basically pushing the guy out the door, and I don't get it at ALL. He is our most explosive player, and possibly the only guy we have with the capability to take it to the house every time he touches the ball. I am fully aware that he is coming off a major injury, but I really don't understand the attitude being directed at him. I want him back, badly, and not traded for a crummy 3rd round pick or worse.

[Snatch Catch]

A 3rd round pick, in this draft especially, is FAR from crummy. That's where I think your diconnect is.

[PinstripePride]

And yet a pick 2 rounds later is considered highway robbery for a player who, IMO, isn't as explosive an offensive talent...I don't know. Just seems like Wash has been kicked to the curb.

[Snatch Catch]

And yet a pick 2 rounds later is considered highway robbery for a player who, IMO, isn't as explosive an offensive talent...I don't know. Just seems like Wash has been kicked to the curb.

Santonio Holmes isn't as explosive an offensive talent as Leon? C'mon man, that's crazy.

In any draft there's a huge difference in a 3rd round pick and a 5th round pick, and given the pick sent for Holmes (end of the 5th), we're looking at about double the distance from where the thrid rounder would be. That's very, very significant, not just "two round later."

I'm sure you've probably heard this before, but it bears repeating. The feature back that everyone is so psyched about this year for the Jets was...a 3rd round pick last year, and this draft is MUCH deeper.

Aside from Greene, Jamaal Charles, Steve Slaton, Jerious Norwood, and Frank Gore are all 3rd round RB selections since 2005.

Given the accumen that Tanny has shown in the draft recently, and the depth of this draft specifically, I'd wager a lot of money that if they take a back in the first three rounds we're going to be pretty damn happy with him in the future.

[PinstripePride]

Good points. As for the explosive thing, granted, I haven't seen much of Holmes, but Wash just seems like he can score anytime he touches the ball. There aren't many guys like that. We'll see how it turns out i guess, I just find it strange how he went from our best offensive player to everyone pushing him out the door in under 6 months.

[TheManKnownAsMecca]

Good points. As for the explosive thing, granted, I haven't seen much of Holmes, but Wash just seems like he can score anytime he touches the ball. There aren't many guys like that. We'll see how it turns out i guess, I just find it strange how he went from our best offensive player to everyone pushing him out the door in under 6 months.

The only problem with your argument IMO is that RBs are pretty easy to find and replace. Also, their shelf life isn't very long (once they hit 30 it starts to go downhill generally). Finding good WRs is much more difficult and Holmes has shown that he has the ability to be a star WR if he can keep out of trouble.

[Snatch Catch]

Good points. As for the explosive thing, granted, I haven't seen much of Holmes, but Wash just seems like he can score anytime he touches the ball. There aren't many guys like that. We'll see how it turns out i guess, I just find it strange how he went from our best offensive player to everyone pushing him out the door in under 6 months.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=or-k41BjfCk


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1FhXtZHyRg

[Snatch Catch]

Oh, and if you want the younger version of Leon, here's who gets picked in the draft:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vu2L4Wquz54

[dabomb2045]

Or we could just keep Leon and use the picks on areas in which we are weak.

[Snatch Catch]

Or we could just keep Leon and use the picks on areas in which we are weak.

They'd use the picks there anyway. They're getting an additional, nice pick if Leon isn't re-signed.

[chanman7483]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=or-k41BjfCk


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1FhXtZHyRg

Love it. Having flashbacks of Cotchery returning punts...would be nice to see some explosiveness out of that position, something we lost when Leon went down.

What's up with all the crappy tackling going on in football? Watching that punt return video, the guy on the Chargers had a great line on Holmes and threw himself at Holmes' legs. It happens a lot in football. I guess part of it has to do w/ the fact that the guys sometimes are bigger and that's what it takes to bring them down, but it's just crappy tackling and leads to things like that - huge plays. Drives me nuts. Could've just pushed him out of bounds or something.

[machphantom]

Jayson Taylor to the Jets for 1/3.75 mil... This should be an interesting year.

[Melan-cynic]

[TheManKnownAsMecca]

You guys are like the Washington Redskins of the AFC this year. That said, I think you guys will actually be successful.

[dabomb2045]

He's gonna play mostly on pass rushing downs. And if he can pile up some sacks in those situations....he'll be a welcome addition to this team.

[TheManKnownAsMecca]

I see that you guys are trying to deal Alan Faneca, Shaun Ellis, and Bryan Thomas. They will be waived after the draft if no one trades for them. Faneca was great last year. Is it due to his age and contract?

[Melan-cynic]

I see that you guys are trying to deal Alan Faneca, Shaun Ellis, and Bryan Thomas. They will be waived after the draft if no one trades for them. Faneca was great last year. Is it due to his age and contract?

Not will, they may be waived after the draft.

I think Faneca was down last year compared to his 2008 but I wouldn't be surprised if they kept him.

[dabomb2045]

I see that you guys are trying to deal Alan Faneca, Shaun Ellis, and Bryan Thomas. They will be waived after the draft if no one trades for them. Faneca was great last year. Is it due to his age and contract?

Faneca declined last year significantly and began to show his age. He's the weak link on the O-line now. Thomas has underachieved since signing a long-term deal. Ellis is still a rock....I guess that comes to money or the Jets wanting to get younger.

[Snatch Catch]

You guys are like the Washington Redskins of the AFC this year. That said, I think you guys will actually be successful.

So what you're saying is the Jets aren't like the Redskins.

[PinstripePride]

Not a fan of Taylor, but if he puts pressure on the QB, I'll take it. Gholston sure as hell isn't going to do it.

[Yankeesfan924]

OGOchoCinco:

@nflcommish Roger, the NY JETS are out of control with these off season additions, is George Steinbrenner the owner now?