2010 NCAA Football Season Thread

[CanoForPresident]

People at Kansas just sound defeated....

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/...3Fid%3D5265439

I'd love to take Kansas just for Basketball alone but it won't happen.

[YanksFan1992]

Sounds like Nebraska is officially heading to the Big 10.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextr...0_hrimgs188948

[CanoForPresident]

The Big 12 is dead

[YanksFan1992]

The Big 12 is dead

I think we may end up with the following scenario:

Five "power" conferences:
SEC
Pac-16 or whatever you want to call it (with Texas, Oklahoma, etc)
Big 10/new name (with Nebraska, Notre Dame, etc)
ACC/Big East hybrid
Mountain West (with Boise State and the remnants of the Big 12)

Four small conferences that may have to merge into two eventually:
WAC
MAC
Sun Belt
Conference USA

[YanksFan1992]

I haven't read all that much about the potential changes, so I have two questions for all of you:

1. Will this just be occurring in football, or will every team at each respective school be moving (for instance, will Nebraska's basketball teams play in the Big 10 as well)?

2. What year will these changes go into effect (I assume 2011, because it's a bit late to change this year's schedule)?

[CanoForPresident]

I haven't read all that much about the potential changes, so I have two questions for all of you:

1. Will this just be occurring in football, or will every team at each respective school be moving (for instance, will Nebraska's basketball teams play in the Big 10 as well)?

2. What year will these changes go into effect (I assume 2011, because it's a bit late to change this year's schedule)?

1. Yes, all sports

2. 2012 at the earliest.

[YanksFan1992]

1. Yes, all sports

2. 2012 at the earliest.

Thanks.

Wow, ESPN is reporting that Colorado, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas A&M and Texas Tech will almost certainly be joining the Pac-10 for 2012. Texas and Texas A&M will be meeting tomorrow to make sure they are on the same page. Wow.

[YanksFan1992]

My idea for the bowl system for the first few years of the new order:

-Four power conferences are established, each with a conference championship, although a few smaller conferences remain

-The non-BCS bowl system remains the same (Cotton Bowl, Gator, etc), although obviously, the association with respective conferences are changed

-The Fiesta, Orange, Rose and Sugar Bowls each host one "Playoff" game, and which bowl hosts which game is rotated year by year:


The games will be as follows:
-The winner of each of the four power conferences qualifies for the playoffs, as does the highest ranked non-power conference team

-The lowest ranked power conference champ plays the non-power conference team for the final spot in the semi-finals in a game at one of the four BCS bowl stadiums

-Then:
Semi-finals: 1. Highest ranked team vs. Play-in game winner
.................2. Second highest ranked power conference winner vs. Third highest

Final: Winner of the two-semis


This allows for some what of a playoff system, and although it is far from perfect, I think it would be a good start.

[BroadwayBomber55]

My idea for the bowl system for the first few years of the new order:

-Four power conferences are established, each with a conference championship, although a few smaller conferences remain

-The non-BCS bowl system remains the same (Cotton Bowl, Gator, etc), although obviously, the association with respective conferences are changed

-The Fiesta, Orange, Rose and Sugar Bowls each host one "Playoff" game, and which bowl hosts which game is rotated year by year:


The games will be as follows:
-The winner of each of the four power conferences qualifies for the playoffs, as does the highest ranked non-power conference team

-The lowest ranked power conference champ plays the non-power conference team for the final spot in the semi-finals in a game at one of the four BCS bowl stadiums

-Then:
Semi-finals: 1. Highest ranked team vs. Play-in game winner
.................2. Second highest ranked power conference winner vs. Third highest

Final: Winner of the two-semis


This allows for some what of a playoff system, and although it is far from perfect, I think it would be a good start.

Sounds good.

Question is when will the NCAA test it? 2012? 2013?

[yankeesrule2000]

Rutgers is next to join the Big Ten..

[BroadwayBomber55]

Jeremiah Masoli will probably get kicked off the team for this

http://www.registerguard.com/csp/cms...ed-driving.csp

Say bye bye to Oregon's conference title hopes.

[BroadwayBomber55]

Rutgers is next to join the Big Ten..

Here's the story...
http://www.journalgazette.net/articl...58/-1/SPORTS12

Very good for Rutgers. The TV and Big Ten Conference money will help RU's sports programs.

[CanoForPresident]

................ the NCAA

http://twitter.com/BFeldmanESPN

[yankeesAZ]

................ the NCAA

http://twitter.com/BFeldmanESPN

Just saw that:

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...c_will_ge.html

"Bruce Feldman of ESPN, one of the more respected college football reporters around, just Tweeted that USC "has been hit with a two-year post-season ban in addition to the loss of scholarships.''


If so --- and no reason not to believe what he has written --- that will be the most significant penalty to hit a Pac-10 football program since UW was nailed with a two-year post-season ban in 1993 and 1994."

[CanoForPresident]

I'm going to reserve judgement until the rest of the details come out because there HAS to be something else that wasn't made public for the penalties to be this harsh.

But if they're going on what was out there, this is total bull.................

[YanksFan1992]

I certainly wasn't expecting sanctions of this magnitude. This has been a rather interesting week for the Pac-10 so far.

[BroadwayBomber55]

Just saw that:

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...c_will_ge.html

"Bruce Feldman of ESPN, one of the more respected college football reporters around, just Tweeted that USC "has been hit with a two-year post-season ban in addition to the loss of scholarships.''


If so --- and no reason not to believe what he has written --- that will be the most significant penalty to hit a Pac-10 football program since UW was nailed with a two-year post-season ban in 1993 and 1994."

This is not good for USC: bowl bans, scholarship losses and victories forfeited including the outright 2004 National title? OUCH!

[BroadwayBomber55]

I certainly wasn't expecting sanctions of this magnitude. This has been a rather interesting week for the Pac-10 so far.

And USC will grab most of the headlines for the Pac-10 with their suspension and details.

Ben is livid with the NCAA.

[yankeesAZ]

I'm going to reserve judgement until the rest of the details come out because there HAS to be something else that wasn't made public for the penalties to be this harsh.

But if they're going on what was out there, this is total bull.................

That's what I was thinking. There must be something besides what we already know.

[CanoForPresident]

And USC will grab most of the headlines for the Pac-10 with their suspension and details.

Ben is livid with the NCAA.

Not yet.

I gotta see exactly what the details are. I have to believe there is more involved in the actual report than what has been made public.

If they're smacking us with this and all they've got is what is out there, then yeah I'm going to be ................ing pissed! There is no reason for us to get penalized to the level that Alabama did for having Boosters involved with paying their players (where as we had Agents trying to get a player away from school, which doesn't help us at all), unless there was other stuff going on.

With all that said, I expect this to be dropped to a one year bowl ban and a lesser scholarship reduction (10 over 2 or 15 over 3, instead of the 20 over 4 which I think is the case right now) after an appeal. Not ideal, but better than what the initial penalties are.

[murpjf88]

I certainly wasn't expecting sanctions of this magnitude. This has been a rather interesting week for the Pac-10 so far.

Yeah, but I bet Pete Carrol probably had some idea. I don't think its a coincidence that he jumped to the Seahawks as quickly as he did.

[CanoForPresident]

Yeah, but I bet Pete Carrol probably had some idea. I don't think its a coincidence that he jumped to the Seahawks as quickly as he did.

Unless someone hit him up with a package from Western Union it was totally a coincidence.

This isn't just a football matter, it's an Athletic Department one.

[BroadwayBomber55]

Not yet.

I gotta see exactly what the details are. I have to believe there is more involved in the actual report than what has been made public.

If they're smacking us with this and all they've got is what is out there, then yeah I'm going to be ................ing pissed! There is no reason for us to get penalized to the level that Alabama did for having Boosters involved with paying their players (where as we had Agents trying to get a player away from school, which doesn't help us at all), unless there was other stuff going on.

With all that said, I expect this to be dropped to a one year bowl ban and a lesser scholarship reduction (10 over 2 or 15 over 3, instead of the 20 over 4 which I think is the case right now) after an appeal. Not ideal, but better than what the initial penalties are.

I also need to see the full report.

This could be worse than Alabama had in 2002-2006.

The USC Football Program could also lose their 2004 Outright BCS National title under this investigation.

[BronxBaumer]

Does this mean that Michigan gets two additional Rose Bowls?

[murpjf88]

Unless someone hit him up with a package from Western Union it was totally a coincidence.

This isn't just a football matter, it's an Athletic Department one.

I don't disagree with you. It was thought that Pete Carrol would never leave USC. It was pretty shocking that he initially accepted the Seattle job. Now, it makes a little more sense. He may not have known the sanctions but he might have had first hand knowledge they were coming. You got to feel sorry for Lane Kiffin who had no idea what he was walking into.

Maybe I'm missing something though.

Edit: Does this mean Auburn gets the National Championship? They were undefeated.

[CanoForPresident]

I don't disagree with you. It was thought that Pete Carrol would never leave USC. It was pretty shocking that he initially accepted the Seattle job. Now, it makes a little more sense. He may not have known the sanctions but he might have had first hand knowledge they were coming. You got to feel sorry for Lane Kiffin who had no idea what he was walking into.

Maybe I'm missing something though.

Again I think that after the appeals process it'll soften the blow a bit but there no doubt that this is going to set the Football program back at least half a decade, probably more.

NO one knew this was coming, trust me and that is probably a huge part of the problem

Auburn doesn't get ................. NCAA doesn't award the BCS trophy, and theres no guarantee that we'll lose ours anyway (thats just opening a huge can of worms.) At the worst , there will be no BCS champion for 2004, the AP already stated that they wouldn't strip us of their title.

Does this mean that Michigan gets two additional Rose Bowls?

The "vacated" wins don't affect either of the seasons in which those games were played.

Even if they were come on, you still know that we whooped that ass in those games

[BonusCantos]

The Buffs are bailing out of the Big 12: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=5271438

So now we ask, what does this mean for Baylor?

[BxBomber44]

It means they're in the same boat as Iowa St., Kansas, and KSU. Sooooo happy the buffs joined the Pac 10, you have no idea.

[YanksFan1992]

It means they're in the same boat as Iowa St., Kansas, and KSU. Sooooo happy the buffs joined the Pac 10, you have no idea.

Welcome to the party.

[YanksFan1992]

Is it just me, or has this been the busiest two weeks of sports in quite a long time:

-Halladay perfect game, Gallaraga near perfect game, Griffey retires, Strasburg's first start, MLB Draft
-NBA Finals and a number of potential coaching moves
-Blackhawks win the Stanley Cup
-World Cup is about to begin, and a number of players have been injured
-College football realignment
-John Wooden passes away

[TheYankee]

It means they're in the same boat as Iowa St., Kansas, and KSU. Sooooo happy the buffs joined the Pac 10, you have no idea.

And the Big 12 has its first traitor! Whoooopeee!

Ugh. I grew up a Cyclone fan. They're in deep sh$%

[ny]

LMFAO about time the NCAA dropped the hammer on the most corrupt program in college football. You knew this was coming when the poodle jumped ship, what a complete POS he is but we all knew that. USC maybe you'll become relevant again in 5 years or so.

[BroadwayBomber55]

Oh my. Here comes Round 1,235,672,121,624,100,354,419,978 of the war of words between CFP and the SEC posters including ny and trentonthunder.

[CanoForPresident]

Not really.

Hes a tool who has nothing better to do than troll the internet. Losers like him really aren't worth my time.

[NYYDragoon]

Is it just me, or has this been the busiest two weeks of sports in quite a long time:

-Halladay perfect game, Gallaraga perfect game, Griffey retires, Strasburg's first start, MLB Draft

[...]

Fixed that line for you.

[Yanks1976]

Looks like SC got the 2 year bowl ban, vacate all wins that Bush played in starting in December 2004, and a loss of 30 scholarships over 3 years. A television ban was also strongly considered and the decision not to implement one was "a very close call."

Wow.

[ny]

Not really.

Hes a tool who has nothing better to do than troll the internet. Losers like him really aren't worth my time.

LMFAO you really should look in the mirror before you call anyone a loser.

[YanksFan1992]

LMFAO you really should look in the mirror before you call anyone a loser.

I'm curious though, didn't Carroll have one of the better runs in college football history?

And let's be fair, almost everyone cheats. USC just did it more often than others, and ended up getting caught.

[The Yankee Captain]

Looks like SC got the 2 year bowl ban, vacate all wins that Bush played in starting in December 2004, and a loss of 30 scholarships over 3 years. A television ban was also strongly considered and the decision not to implement one was "a very close call."

Wow.

How would've the no tv ban work when USC palyed ND at South Bend and are supposed to be on NBC?

[Yanks1976]

How would've the no tv ban work when USC palyed ND at South Bend and are supposed to be on NBC?

I just don't think it would be. We probably (although I have no way of knowing) have an out in the contract with SC if one of us was banned from TV. In reality though, that is probably why the penalty doesn't get used...it impacts the opponents as well as the team that is being sanctioned.

[Yankees1962]

I'm curious though, didn't Carroll have one of the better runs in college football history?

And let's be fair, almost everyone cheats. USC just did it more often than others, and ended up getting caught.

I'm not so sure about the more often than others part. The only sure thing is that they got caught doing it.

[YanksFan1992]

On another note, if all of this goes down, the conference basketball tournaments are going to be rather awesome.

[BroadwayBomber55]

On another note, if all of this goes down, the conference basketball tournaments are going to be rather awesome.

I can't wait either.

The Pac-16 and the Mega-16 (my preferred name for the Big Ten/Hidden 11) gets their championship games in football and expand their tournaments.

Awesome!

[BroadwayBomber55]

In the wake of USC's punishment former Auburn coach Tommy Tuberville wants a recount.
Tuberville: Auburn should be '04 champ
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5273313

[ny]

I'm curious though, didn't Carroll have one of the better runs in college football history?

And let's be fair, almost everyone cheats. USC just did it more often than others, and ended up getting caught.

It's easy to just say everyone cheats but I wouldn't just lump SC in with "everyone" considering they just received the harshest penalty since SMU.

This is what happens when you recruit trash like Reggie Bush but its not his fault entirely because in his case the apple doesn't fall too far from the tree. If you ever read anything about his family you would know they're nothing but trash so you do kind of feel a little bit sorry for him.

The poodles legacy is tarnished forever and so is the run that USC put together which is unfortunate for college football. No way can you now consider their accomplishments under Carroll as a great run. Now we can watch that POS fail in the pros again and just hope no one gives him the chance to destroy another program. The only thing funnier than all of this and that includes Lane Kiffin's timing is laughing at the hypocritical fans who sat in their glass houses and tossed accusations about other schools while they sat smugly waiting for this to pass.

[murpjf88]

http://www.kctv5.com/sports/23860558/detail.html

High level sources in multiple conferences have told KCTV5 that Texas and Texas A&M are looking to move to the Big Ten Conference and are in talks to join the conference, while the University of Oklahoma is planning on petitioning the Southeastern Conference to become a member of its conference.

KCTV5's sources said that Texas and Texas A&M do not have to include Texas Tech or Baylor in their plans. Sources told KCTV5 that there have already been discussions about the two schools entering the Big Ten and that the agreement could be made as soon as Thursday.

Oklahoma is currently working on petitioning to enter the SEC, but must find another university to enter the league with them, sources said. TMZ Sports has reported that Oklahoma State is likely to accept a bid to move to the Pac-10. Earlier Thursday, Colorado accepted an invitation to join the Pac-10.

790 the Zone in Atlanta reported Thursday afternoon that the SEC is offering invitations to Texas A&M and Virginia Tech to join the conference.

KCTV5's sources also said that some Big 12 officials are saying decisions on which deals Big 12 schools take invitations by the end of the day Thursday, although the deals may not be officially announced.

Those decisions would leave the University of Kansas, Kansas State University and the University of Missouri with Baylor, Texas Tech and Iowa State in the Big 12. The Missouri Board of Curators met Thursday and planned to meet Friday to discuss the future of Missouri sports.

[BroadwayBomber55]

After the Big XII demise, I think the Big East will be dissolved too.

Then, you have four mega conferences: the SEC, ACC, the Big Ten (Hidden 16) and the Pac-16.

Here's an article about it:
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/colum...ene&id=5272309

[YanksFan1992]

http://www.kctv5.com/sports/23860558/detail.html

I guess everyone's afraid of the Pac-10.

[murpjf88]

I guess everyone's afraid of the Pac-10.

Yeah, I really don't get that. However in the case of Texas and A&M, they don't want to split up. A&M has also shown interest in the SEC and other reports have said that the SEC is willing to restructure the conference by moving SEC west teams to the east to accommodate Texas and A&M. Either way, the Big 12 is finished.

[trentonthunder]

Not so sure the SEC wants Oklahoma, VT, or anyone else for that matter.
They are getting lots and lots of TV money over the next few years, have
the highest rated conference money wise, and those big boys probably
don't want to share any of it. I'm sure some will argue that it will make
their conference even richer, but I doubt it. Florida and Alabama have
already shown that the SEC is the cream of the crop. I expect the
other conferences besides the SEC to take in UT, aTm, and OU. OSU,
Kansas, and the other guys will be scrambling for any conference who will be kind enough to take them.

My money would be on the SEC to do nothing here.