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    Brian Cashman just had an omellette, I'm going to consult with my sources to see if I can find out what was in it.
    My sources says he had waffles.....

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    My sources says he had waffles.....
    Everyone knows Cashman doesn't eat.

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    Everyone knows Cashman doesn't eat.
    Hal will not pay for it.

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    Can we get back to the actual topic here?

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    Here's an article on Carlos Matías

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    Maybe the worst translated article of all time. I thought the Korean translation of the Chan Ho Park signing was bad.

    It did say Matias sat 92-94 and touched 99. A tad skeptical.
    "I see Jesus Montero as a potential once-in-a-generation force on offense."



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    Baseball America article on international signings.

    http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/prospects/?p=7565

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    I'd settle for Hechavarria and Matias if the situation with DePaula gets weird, but I'm hoping for all three.


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    Re: 2010 International Free Agents

    Quote Originally Posted by dpbddd99
    Baseball America article on international signings.

    http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/prospects/?p=7565
    From the article,

    While the Yankees have considerable financial muscle in the international market, they have also leveraged it well in Latin America under the direction of vice president Mark Newman. Two of their high-profile signings, Jose Tabata and Arodys Vizcaino, have already netted them Javier Vazquez, Xavier Nady and Damaso Marte, while Jesus Montero will become arguably the top prospect in baseball (from a purely offensive standpoint) once Jason Heyward gets 130 big league at-bats.

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    As long as they sign DePaula I'm happy. One or both of Hechavarria/Matias would be gravy.
    "I see Jesus Montero as a potential once-in-a-generation force on offense."



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    From everybody's favorite buscon RE: Matias:

    He has a good curveball, he was a SS, I wouldnt worry about Matias stuff he is so small he will repeat his mechanics always.

    The only legit concern you can hear besides papers is his size, but on the field he is the real deal, he will be a yankee.
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    Its time for some news on one of these three guys haha, were all getting antsy in this thread.
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    What does him being a SS and him having a good curveball have to do with one another?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JavyVazquezIsSick
    What does him being a SS and him having a curveball have to do with one another?
    Apparently shortstops have better curveballs than other converted IFers.
    "I see Jesus Montero as a potential once-in-a-generation force on offense."



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    No wonder Casey Kelly is so great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THEBOSS84
    No wonder Casey Kelly is so great.
    "I see Jesus Montero as a potential once-in-a-generation force on offense."



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    No wonder Casey Kelly is so great.
    Awesome. Pure awesome.
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    casey kelly makes me cum on my belly
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    "Montero hasn't delivered completely on his raw power, but he's close to projecting as an 80 hitter with 80 power on the 20-80 scouting scale"-BA

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    casey kelly makes me cum on my belly
    Remember this post kiddies, Flymick just jumped the shark.
    Win one for The Boss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justtxyank
    Remember this post kiddies, Flymick just jumped the shark.
    joke's on you, because that happened a while ago.. i couldn't come up with anything substantial after "____ makes my balls hurt"
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    Quote Originally Posted by justtxyank
    Remember this post kiddies, Flymick just jumped the shark.
    Yeah, I was going to say, you weren't kidding about not being around much lately, this has become the norm for most of us.
    Calmer than you are.

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    I think everything the buscon writes comes out of the fear of an international draft. He thinks of the Yanks sign DePaula and Matias there will be an international draft. I think he's nuts.

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    agreed... in the past year alone, there seems to have been good parity in regards to which teams have signed which high-end talent.. and the yankees have even been outbid on a few occasions

    i don't see why the yankees signing 2 more players would suddenly change anything
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    Truth.

    He seems really paranoid.
    "I see Jesus Montero as a potential once-in-a-generation force on offense."



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    He's scared he won't have anything to do. He keeps talking about how the draft ruined baseball in Puerto Rico.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzah!
    He's scared he won't have anything to do. He keeps talking about how the draft ruined baseball in Puerto Rico.
    Yea ,That and basketball....Flymick TMI

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzah!
    He's scared he won't have anything to do. He keeps talking about how the draft ruined baseball in Puerto Rico.
    Is the Depaula investigation even concluded yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by flymick24
    agreed... in the past year alone, there seems to have been good parity in regards to which teams have signed which high-end talent.. and the yankees have even been outbid on a few occasions

    i don't see why the yankees signing 2 more players would suddenly change anything
    Agreed especially when you consider how many small market teams are involved in international signings. I mean with signings like Chapman to the Reds, Ynoa to the A's, and Sano to the Twins its clearly not the Yankees, Sox, Mets, Cubs, and Dodgers bidding against one another for all the top guys. Yea, most of those teams do their fair share, but there are a lot of active small market teams in IFA.

    I think a draft is at least several years away if it ever comes about. Plus with all the uncertainties/investigations regarding players ages it could get quite complicated to arrange it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justtxyank
    Remember this post kiddies, Flymick just jumped the shark.
    When I read that the first time, I thought you wrote "Flymick just PUMPED the shark"
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    Quote Originally Posted by dpbddd99
    Baseball America article on international signings.

    http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/prospects/?p=7565
    About the Phillies: "Dominican outfielder Domingo Santana, who has comparable tools to Yankees outfielder Kelvin de Leon but signed for one third of the cost."

    I would love to see where these 2 players are in 3 or 4 years.

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    The bigger question is who is this Soto guy? 6'5", throws 101?

    From this buscone's twitter.
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    Is that a legit player?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yarosh25
    The bigger question is who is this Soto guy? 6'5", throws 101?

    From this buscone's twitter.
    He's the 22 year-old Cuban reliever with a dazzling 6.59 k/9 and a 6.71 bb/9 for a k/bb rate less than 1.00.
    "I see Jesus Montero as a potential once-in-a-generation force on offense."



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    He's the 22 year-old Cuban reliever with a dazzling 6.59 k/9 and a 6.71 bb/9 for a k/bb rate less than 1.00.
    A slightly shorter Brackman pre John surgery. Basically, to whom it may concern. The communist system in action, all splash.

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    Not a starter and likely not even close to as athletic as Brackman so that's a pretty rough comp.
    "I see Jesus Montero as a potential once-in-a-generation force on offense."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Melan-cynic
    He's the 22 year-old Cuban reliever with a dazzling 6.59 k/9 and a 6.71 bb/9 for a k/bb rate less than 1.00.
    We already have a guy like this, his name is Harold Garce. Lets see if he even gets out of the rookie leagues with his 100 mph fastball.
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    We already have a guy like this, his name is Harold Garce. Lets see if he even gets out of the rookie leagues with his 100 mph fastball.
    Yup. 100mph with zero idea where it's going. Didn't he have like a 22.00 bb/9 one season?
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    Just checked his stats. In 2008, Garce walked 84 batters in 37.2 innings for a sexxy 20.32 bb/9 rate and even sexier 0.38 k/bb.

    http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/m...pbp&pid=542416
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    It's incredible that a guy like Jenrry Mejia signed for $16,500. The scout should be in jail for that felony.

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    It's incredible that a guy like Jenrry Mejia signed for $16,500. The scout should be in jail for that felony.
    Just goes to show you how much of a crap-shoot signing kids this young can be.

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    It's incredible that a guy like Jenrry Mejia signed for $16,500. The scout should be in jail for that felony.
    Exactly why I think we should sign these kids by the bushel.

    You never know which ones are going to ripen the best.
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    Exactly why I think we should sign these kids by the bushel.

    You never know which ones are going to ripen the best.
    Of course, it also might explain why the Yankees are hesitant to chase the 7-figure guys too aggressively
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    Of course, it also might explain why the Yankees are hesitant to chase the 7-figure guys too aggressively
    The odds are still with the more higher priced kids. IF not, why have scouts at all? Just sign a bunch and see what sifts out.

    I would think, that it would be similiar to the draft, where most of the very best players come from the upper 1/2 of the first round.

    Obviously, there are Jorge Posada's out there.

    But here are the top 50 ranked players in fantasy baseball. 58% were 1st-2nd round picks and 22% were IFA's.

    I think this pretty much proves that scouting works.

    Albert Pujols 1.2 1 13th 1999
    Hanley Ramírez 2.4 1 IFA -
    Álex Rodríguez 3.5 1 1st 1993
    Chase Utley 4.8 1 1st 2000
    Ryan Braun 5.9 1 1st 2005
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    Matt Kemp 8 1.1 6th 2003
    Tim Lincecum 8.1 1.1 1st 2006
    Troy Tulowitzki 9.7 1.1 1st 2005
    Evan Longoria 11.8 1.5 1st 2006
    Mark Teixeira 12.1 1.6 1st 2001
    David Wright 12.4 1.5 1st 2001
    Ryan Howard 12.9 1.7 5th 2001
    Prince Fielder 14.4 1.8 1st 2002
    Roy Halladay 15.1 1.8 1st 1995
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    Ian Kinsler 17.8 2 17th 2003
    Matt Holliday 19.8 2.1 7th 1998
    Justin Upton 20.7 2.1 1st 2005
    Jacoby Ellsbury 22.1 2.3 1st 2005
    Carl Crawford 22.8 2.4 2nd 1999
    Dustin Pedroia 23.6 2.4 2nd 2004
    Adrián González 25.5 2.7 1st 2000
    Grady Sizemore 27.5 3 3rd 2000
    CC Sabathia 27.9 2.8 1st 1998
    Zack Greinke 28.1 2.8 1st 2002
    Joey Votto 29.6 3.1 2nd 2002
    Kevin Youkilis 29.6 3 8th 2001
    Ichiro Suzuki 29.8 3 IFA 2001
    Jimmy Rollins 31.3 3.1 2nd 1996
    Pablo Sandoval 33 3.3 IFA -
    Víctor Martínez 33.2 3.4 IFA -
    Chris Carpenter 35.4 3.5 1st 1993
    Félix Hernández 35.6 3.5 IFA -
    Derek Jeter 35.6 3.6 1st 1992
    Kendry Morales 36.7 3.6 IFA -
    Ryan Zimmerman 36.8 3.7 lst 2005
    Brian McCann 40.1 3.9 2nd 2002
    Ben Zobrist 41.8 4 6th 2004
    Brian Roberts 42.6 4.2 1st 1999
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    Robinson Canó 45.9 4.4 IFA -
    Brandon Phillips 46.4 4.4 2nd 1999
    Mark Reynolds 47 4.5 16th 2004
    Aaron Hill 49.5 4.7 1st 2003
    B.J. Upton 49.5 4.7 1st 2002
    Cliff Lee 50 4.7 4th 2000
    Johan Santana 50.5 4.8 IFA -
    Dan Haren 50.7 4.8 2nd 2001
    Shin-Soo Choo 52.2 4.9 IFA -

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    My point wasn't that the higher-priced kids aren't more likely too succeed, it was that the odds are still pretty steep so the Yankees weren't going to go crazy chasing a guy if they felt his price was higher than they were comfortable paying him. It's one thing to exceed your budget for a guy like CC, it's another to do it for a 16 year old kid.
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    Thank you all for info on Soto, sounds like a major major project. Depends on the cost though? Would you risk 50-100 K and hope that the kid is a hard worker and learns an off-speed pitch, control, etc.?
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    Still would rather have DePaula.

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    Si...
    "I see Jesus Montero as a potential once-in-a-generation force on offense."



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    Is tomorrow the Day of Reckoning for DePaula (supposed to sign with Seattle then) according to the buscon? Let's hope he is wrong.

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    Sign something jerks!!!!!!!
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