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    Martin Brodeur (Greatest goalie of all times?)

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    Congrats to Martin. This was one record I thought would be safe.........


    Well I watch Dryden win 6 cups in 8 years and yes he played with probably the best team ever.So I guess to Martin is the greatest in my day......

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    Re: Martin Brodeur (Greatest goalie of all times?)

    If I had one game to win and my choice of any goalie in his prime, I would still have Patrick Roy in net for me.

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    Re: Martin Brodeur (Greatest goalie of all times?)

    Quote Originally Posted by RhodyYanksFan
    If I had one game to win and my choice of any goalie in his prime, I would still have Patrick Roy in net for me.
    Yup.

    Roy and Brodeur are pretty much 1-2 for me, and although I'd choose Roy for a single game (or playoff series), Brodeur has a bit more impressive body of work.

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    Hasek and Roy were the top 2 goalies of this era. Marty comes in a very distant 3rd to those two.
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    If he keeps playing like this he`ll surely make the Olympic team........

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    Quote Originally Posted by RhodyYanksFan
    If I had one game to win and my choice of any goalie in his prime, I would still have Patrick Roy in net for me.
    Dryden for me.........

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    Re: Martin Brodeur (Greatest goalie of all times?)

    You have to give Marty his props, but he hasn't been that impressive when the Devs play the Rangers. At least that's the impression I have.
    One goalie to win one game..for me it's Hasek.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JfromJersey
    You have to give Marty his props, but he hasn't been that impressive when the Devs play the Rangers. At least that's the impression I have.
    One goalie to win one game..for me it's Hasek.
    Hasek in his prime was the best goalie ever. He carried a Buffalo team that wasn't any better than any of the Ranger teams of recent years to the sixth game of the cup finals.
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    Re: Martin Brodeur (Greatest goalie of all times?)

    Quote Originally Posted by CanoForPresident
    Hasek in his prime was the best goalie ever. He carried a Buffalo team that wasn't any better than any of the Ranger teams of recent years to the sixth game of the cup finals.
    And the Cup winning goal wasn't even a goal (but I don't care because I love Hull/hate Hasek).

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    Hasek in his prime was the best goalie ever. He carried a Buffalo team that wasn't any better than any of the Ranger teams of recent years to the sixth game of the cup finals.
    Must agree, always been a big Dominator fan

    On a different note, I wonder if hockey historians will start docking points or giving extra credit for those who thrived during or after the restrictions on pad size.
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    Must agree, always been a big Dominator fan

    On a different note, I wonder if hockey historians will start docking points or giving extra credit for those who thrived during or after the restrictions on pad size.
    Nah. I think the one piece composite sticks that allow players to shoot the puck a billion miles per an hour nullifies that.
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    By far the greatest goalie to ever marry his ex-wife's (now former) sister-in-law.


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    Congrats to Marty but to me the best playoff goaltender of my era is still Billy Smith. 4 straight Cup Victories and he shut out the "Great One" in 1983. The Isles were never eleminated in a game in which Smith was the goaltender. Billy won only 300+ regular season games because Al Arbour believed in a strict two goaltender system. Had Billy been alowed to play full seasons like Marty he probably gets close to 500 victories.

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    Re: Martin Brodeur (Greatest goalie of all times?)

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    By far the greatest goalie to ever marry his ex-wife's (now former) sister-in-law.
    You mean Ex-wife's sister

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    Marty has always had a pretty good defense if not a defensive system in front of him, but you can't argue with the guys consistency. Definately one of the greatest goalies of all time.
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    You mean Ex-wife's sister
    Hmmmm Wikipedia says it was his first wife's sister-in-law, and Wikipedia is never wrong GordonGecko, NEVER!


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    Re: Martin Brodeur (Greatest goalie of all times?)

    Hasek and Roy....Brodeur's let in too many soft goals in big spots to be considered in the same league as those two.

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    I think Brodeur is one of the greatest goalies of all time but I wouldn't say he is the greatest. Out of all the greats, really only Roy, Brodeur, and Hasek are the ones I have been able to see. It's hard for me to compare the old greats like Sawchuk, Dryden, etc since I never saw them and it was a different era. Based on what I have seen I'd go with Roy in a must win.

    Brodeur is very consistent and has come up huge in big spots time after time. However, his ego tends to get in the way and he plays way too much and by playoff time either lets in soft goals or just chokes as of late. Not trying to take anything away from him, I mean he did help the Devils to 3 Cups but as of late he has been garbage in the playoffs.

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    Re: Martin Brodeur (Greatest goalie of all times?)

    Hasek has 2 cups, not one.

    Those accomplishments make it seem even more lopsided than I originally thought. Hasek is on another level by himself.

    For one game, I'd probably take Roy but you can't argue with Hasek's body of work. He doesn't have the longevity of Marty but at his peak, he was better and it really isn't close.
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    Re: Martin Brodeur (Greatest goalie of all times?)

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    Hasek has 2 cups, not one.
    One for each testicle?

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    I might be biased being a Rangers fan....but in a 1-game must win situation....I'm taking Mike Richter over Brodeur. Richter was such a great big game goalie.

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    One for each testicle?

    3 cups...
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    Re: Martin Brodeur (Greatest goalie of all times?)

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    3 cups...
    Billy Smith won 4 Cups!

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    Hasek or Roy wouldn't lose a lead in the last 2 minutes of Game 7.

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    Billy Smith won 4 Cups!

    Yeah but Hasek has 3 testicles. Hasek wins.

    TBH, I think Smith was the 2nd most overrated player of the Islander Dynasty. Thats not to say that he wasn't important, but he's not on the level of a Potvin, Bossy or Trottier.
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    Speaking of Bossy, do you think Ovechkin will break his record of 9 straight 50 goal seasons?

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    If he stays healthy he's gonna set the new mark for consecutive 50 goal seasons.
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    Yeah but Hasek has 3 testicles. Hasek wins.

    TBH, I think Smith was the 2nd most overrated player of the Islander Dynasty. Thats not to say that he wasn't important, but he's not on the level of a Potvin, Bossy or Trottier.
    Billy Smith is overrated in the way that Joe Namath is overrated. Based purely on statistics, he doesn't blow you away but when you look at his team's achievements with him in net, you see why his legacy has been so enduring.

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    Yeah but Hasek has 3 testicles. Hasek wins.

    TBH, I think Smith was the 2nd most overrated player of the Islander Dynasty. Thats not to say that he wasn't important, but he's not on the level of a Potvin, Bossy or Trottier.
    You have got to be kidding. The Isles did not become successful in the playoffs until Arbour made Smith the regular playoff goaltender. Funny how when he played Billy was considered by most hockey people possibly the best playoff goaltender ever and you think he was overrated.

    Now if you want to talk about an overrated playoff goaltender than Grant Fuhr is the man.

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    Billy Smith is overrated in the way that Joe Namath is overrated. Based purely on statistics, he doesn't blow you away but when you look at his team's achievements with him in net, you see why his legacy has been so enduring.

    I think each fanbase is entitled to one slightly irrational deification.
    As much as I like Namath he basically only had Super Bowl III. I think Smith did a lot more than that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ymike673
    As much as I like Namath he basically only had Super Bowl III. I think Smith did a lot more than that.
    Maybe not the best comparison, simply trying to justify the love for Smith by pointing to how his playoff heroics boosted his legacy in a way consistently excellent regular season play never could have.
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    You have got to be kidding. The Isles did not become successful in the playoffs until Arbour made Smith the regular playoff goaltender. Funny how when he played Billy was considered by most hockey people possibly the best playoff goaltender ever and you think he was overrated.

    Now if you want to talk about an overrated playoff goaltender than Grant Fuhr is the man.

    I don't disagree that Fuhr is overrated, but Smith is too.
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    Re: Martin Brodeur (Greatest goalie of all times?)

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark19
    Maybe not the best comparison, simply trying to justify the love for Smith by pointing to how his playoff heroics boosted his legacy in a way consistently excellent regular season play never could have.
    Smith also won both regular season Goaltenders awards. He does not have a high win total because Arbour would never let him play more than about half the games each season. Billy has said many times he could have played more games but you did not go against what Arbour wanted. Billy was also not a stats guy. If the Isles were up a few goals he was not concerned with a shutout as long as the Isles won.

    But as far as the post season he was unbeatalble. Sure the Isles could not of won with out Bossy/Trottier and Potvin but the same thing could be said for any team that wins the Cup.

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    Re: Martin Brodeur (Greatest goalie of all times?)

    Quote Originally Posted by CanoForPresident
    I don't disagree that Fuhr is overrated, but Smith is too.
    Smith won both regular season Goaltending awards plus the Playoff MVP. He was the goaltender for the team that won a record 19 staright playoff rounds! How can anyone say he is overrated!

    If Billy played on the Rangers there would be a statue of him outside MSG.

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    For one game, I'd probably take Hasek. But for a series, season, or career, it's Marty.
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