I think Matsui would be having a better year if he was in NY, too. Not a great year, but he'd be doing better
I think Matsui would be having a better year if he was in NY, too. Not a great year, but he'd be doing better
"You know how pissed off I was when US Weekly said that I was on crack? That's racist! I'm not on crack. I'm straight-up mentally ill!" -- Tracy Jordan
Based upon the fact that last year he did the exact opposite, or some other supporting evidence?Originally Posted by BobLoblaw
Just my opinion. Living in the same place, same team, less traveling because the Angels have the worst schedule travel miles wise, the stadium... I don't have any stats or anything, its just my feeling.
"You know how pissed off I was when US Weekly said that I was on crack? That's racist! I'm not on crack. I'm straight-up mentally ill!" -- Tracy Jordan
But those things were true last year and he did better on the road. Also, I'm sure these variables were not lost on Mr. Cashman when evaluating whether or not to retain his services as DH. Bottom line is that Cashman anticipated a drop off from Matsui and we're observing that with our eyes and with stats. Granted, he rolled the dice on NJ and they came up snake eyes, but to bash Cashman for Matsui is reeedickulous. Not saying you're doing that, but that's how we get here.
Agreed. Looking at this objectively, AJ was a good CFer, but with a terrible K rate, no power and an abnormally high BABIP even in the minors.
What would you deal for that? What great player are you going to give up on the potential that Ajax's K rate might improve, his power might start to show to offset the Ks, and that the BABIP is not a fluke?
Probably not much more than a lefty challenged CFer making decent cash I'm thinking.
This is the sort of clueless post that makes me want to vomit. We are talking about Centerfield. Does Matsui play CF? By the way, he's playing so bad he's been benched as the DH. oh vey....
I heard this today...Did Coltrane actually exist? This is like being blind for 50 years, regaining sight, and then peering directly at the sun.
That's kind of how I see it too. I suppose it's possible they could have hung onto him and leveraged him in a Dan Haren deal or similar deal during the season, which in and of itself would have been great....
But that leaves Melky in CF. That's a BIG problem.
And it puts Mitre or some equivalent in the rotation. That's a BIG problem.
It's easy to say Cashman could have got more for him... let's hear who.
it's actually been a very solid six game stretch since he came back vs bruce chen in KC. .364 BA during the 6-game stretch, EIGHT (8) hits, incl TWO (2) doubles and TWO (2) HRs, 3 RBIs, one of the doubles off a LHP, and solid AB vs LHP tonite for a walk down 0-2. plus solid baserunning and great D. and the D tonite got CC out of a big inning in the top first. can't book the parade yet, but he does look much, much better. not only better results, but quieter at the plate with more bat speed and better pitch recognition. hey, paul o'neill said so, so it must be true !!
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Nice game tonight. That's about all there is to say.
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We need that pop from the bottom of the lineup. Hopefully Granderson can stay hot.
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The Grandy Man Can!!
Seriously though, too early to tell whether he is starting to come around. But, he did hit his 12th HR, so its not a stretch seeing him get to 20 or even 25 if he keeps this up. I feel like his bat waking up has given him a bit more confidence in the field as well. Awesome D to rob Johnny of a hit.
"If you're a Yankee fan, or if you're not a Yankee fan - you have to admit, we're winners."
Paul O'Neill
why does he sound like he's running for political office in all of his interviews?
dude, i would vote for him
"First batter up well here's the pitch: it's a curve. Second batter up because the first got served"
he'd definitely be right wing, that's for sure badumbum
Get that disingenuous vibe too?
In fact, Sterger claims that, in one of the photos Favre allegedly sent her, he's masturbating — while wearing a pair of Crocs.
I think he leans more toward the center badumbum
In fact, Sterger claims that, in one of the photos Favre allegedly sent her, he's masturbating — while wearing a pair of Crocs.
as disingenuous as arod and jeter are in interviews
he just enunciates a little too much for my liking... i like my black guys with a drawl
is that what u people call it nowadays?
"First batter up well here's the pitch: it's a curve. Second batter up because the first got served"
I guess a black guy raised by two parents that are educators is just not to your liking.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EvR3...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymMBE...eature=related
bonus trax: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fkZd...eature=related
it don't mean a thing if you ain't got that swing, Vol. II ........
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/yanke...85ehYkZPacrYlI
That AB last night where he clubbed the HR. There was very little movement in his stance or swing. Much different than earlier this season. I also think his front foot is pointed a bit more toward the pitcher, but this I can't really confirm from the videos. But there is more "quiet" in his stance.
Guess that makes the whole difference.
it's what everyone says, it's how it looks, and it also makes sense. there was much more movement in his old stance. his upper body was twitchy and he moved his hands back right as the pitch was thrown. i am guessing he picked this up in an effort to generate more power, tho i have no idea. now he's quieter with hands cocked back waiting for the pitch, and trying to keep both hands on the bat, presumably to balance out power lost from the shorter swing. it makes sense that if he doesn't have to deal with the excess movement, he would have more time and better pitch recognition. and this seems to be the case over six games now. he's obviously quicker to the ball, and he's also hitting to LF with power. with two doubles and two HRs over 6 games, plus a few near misses, he obviously hasn't lost his power stroke either.
in addition to the results, which have been very solid, just look at the ABs, even vs LHPs. before the adjustment, he had a fair number of helpless-looking ABs. bunches of Ks and weak fly balls to LF. IMO he's only had one really poor AB over the last 6 games, and that was the K vs bullington in KC, but he was also dealing with bad sun and some of the best pitches bullington threw all game. so from this it makes sense that his pitch recognition has dramatically improved. if this is the case, then maybe he can pan out as the player we thought/hoped we were getting.
Wow, totally disagree.
And he's incredibly well-spoken because his parents are teachers (at least one of them is) and raised him well. He apologizes for not being stereotypical enough for you all.
Stella said, "Daddy when you gonna put me in a song?"
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So far, K-Long strikes again. Same thing as with Swisher and Cano, minimize the movement, it gives you a better idea of the strike zone and what pitches you can hit where. Maybe that's why it didn't take a long time to adjust for Curtis, because they didn't change too much (just the over-moving parts)
"If you're a Yankee fan, or if you're not a Yankee fan - you have to admit, we're winners."
Paul O'Neill
i think you meant y'all, right ??
The most encouraging AB was not the homer nor the hard hit balls monday but the walk against a lefty after being down 0-2, I mean how many times have Curtis been able to lay of 4 straight balls from a lefty with 2 strikes on him? I could say none. For Curtis and almost every hitter out there (except Robinson Cano) it all starts with walks and OBP, if he can start to see pitches better and use his new mechanics to lay off some of those balls he will get good results all across the board.
"I am the law, bitch"
So why did all of this have to wait until August? Until Curtis went to Long and asked for help?
OPS+ is 105 with plus defense.
That's disapointing.
But it just goes to show he's having a better season than the skewering he's receiving on this board, just not as good as most of us hoped for.
Baseball is life;
the rest is just details.
it was a pretty radical move and granderson is a veteran player and former all star. they did not want to blow his brain out of the water and say, look, you really suck, let's go back to boot camp. maybe it would have been sooner if it were just a tweak, but it's a pretty radical thing to do a swing overhaul mid-season. fortunately granderson has a great attitude and asked long for help, that was a very solid move by him.
totally agree here. he did the same thing vs a LHP (IIRC) first game out in KC, and on top of the 8 hits he has 3 walks in the post-swing-doctor-school 6-game stretch. the thing about the new swing, it seems to let him lay back, giving him more time to read the pitch which increases pitch recognition. and he can afford to do this as he's quicker to the ball. so hopefully this is a solid sign of good things to come and not just another flash like he's shown before. my gut is this is for real, as there's a solid foundation for what is happening. and the changes have been dramatic and pretty much instantaneous.
bonus trax:
Curtis Granderson did some damage to this former team. Granderson hit a solo homer in the second and made a pair of tough catches to rob the Tigers of two first-inning hits. He ran down Ramon Santiago's drive to the gap in right center, then dove to snare Johnny Damon's drive to left center.
He impressed at the plate as well, drilling a solo home run off Tigers ace Justin Verlander. Since making adjustments to his swing with hitting coach Kevin Long, Granderson is 8-for-23 (.364) with two homers and three RBI. Girardi said Granderson's at-bats have become more consistent.
"I feel like I have a better shot now that the previous at-bats before the change," Granderson said.
http://bleacherreport.com/tb/b5qkB
well, the interesting thing about granderson is, what do you believe about the back of his baseball card ?? is it the down trends, LHP problems and the 98 (06) and 100 (09) OPS+ ?? or is it the power and OPS+ of 113, 135 and 123 (05, 07, 08), along with his speed, D and overall game ??
to the bashers, the bad stuff has been unmistakeable proof of decline and cashman is a moron. the recent uptick seems to hold out more hope for the future. IF in fact he and kevin long have really figured something out, then maybe this is really the player we got, and his OPS+ can creep up closer to the solid performance levels he has at times reached before. you have to figure THIS is the reason they got the guy in the first place. let's see, i like the vibe and i am cautiously optimistic.
Not sure what well-spoken, disingenuous and being stereotypical have to do with one another, though I can see where you're headed, especially to those who might describe a black athlete as "articulate". Talk about cringe-worthy.
I've seen people of all races, colors and creeds that work hard at creating a certain persona and always seem to be "on" and forever smiling for the cameras. I think Granderson gives off this vibe, whether it's contrived or not. Just an observation, because I couldn't care less as long as he's producing.
In fact, Sterger claims that, in one of the photos Favre allegedly sent her, he's masturbating — while wearing a pair of Crocs.
Back on topic. There is no doubt that he looks better at the plate. Maybe it took a professional like Long to tell him that he was way too busy at the plate, even while the pitch was headed toward the plate, and I doubt that he'd listen to the thousands of fans who saw this from day 1.
It'll be interesting to see how this will improve his effectiveness against lefties, though a complete 180 might be too much to ask of him.
In fact, Sterger claims that, in one of the photos Favre allegedly sent her, he's masturbating — while wearing a pair of Crocs.
maybe baseball is slow at making changes to routine.
oy vey
Especially if they work. But in his case, it wasn't. Hence, his seeking out Long.
In fact, Sterger claims that, in one of the photos Favre allegedly sent her, he's masturbating — while wearing a pair of Crocs.
Im still hesitant since I thought he had turned the corner before when he hit like 3 homeruns in 2 games. He fell of a cliff after that though so Im not gonna get my hopes up too much, yet.
I will say that he has looked better these last 5 games but Im guessing Im gonna hold of judgement until after the next 10 then we will know if he has turned the corner, finally.
"I am the law, bitch"
Yea, but 110 the new benchmark for league-average.
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I've been out of the loop lately, is this serious?
I can't wait to trade him for something awesome.
Calmer than you are.
Salary relief?
I thought Heathcliff said Ca$hmoney would never be able to sucker another GM into this and we should instead target Vernon Wells as a trade traget. No?
Baseball is life;
the rest is just details.
100 is always average.
While we're at it - please take a look at B-ref's WAR leaderboard and then FG's.
Cano is the leader on BR and Hamilton is the runaway leader on FG - how can these two great sites have such conflicting numbers?
I'm sure it is sarcastic. But that said we (as fans) didn't think we were trading 3 decent prospects for someone who is "a little better than average" we thought we were trading for a CF who could hit 25 bombs and swipe 20 bags annually with a 120 OPS+. It is probably why he gets skewered here because the expetations were high. Not unfair, just high.
He's been better than what many people have called him which is "worthless" but he's been a far cry for an all-star as well.
I think he finishes strong and has a big bounce back year next year.
Baseball is life;
the rest is just details.
I think it has to do with very different defensive metrics (FG uses UZR, B-Ref uses TZ I think) and ways of determining run value, too.
Likes the Yankees.
Snarkerella is right, the difference is mostly from different metrics used.
B-ref's WAR is calculated through Sean Smith's method, and the Fangraphs WAR is calculated through Tom Tango's method.
B-ref also seems to include a few smaller things, like runs on double plays (below or above average).
Personally, I suppose I use fangraphs WAR, but looking at how its calculated, B-ref's actually seems a little better (more inclusive).
and according to this article: http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/bl...e-projections/
UZR doesn't match up so well.
Well as crazy as it sounds, the difference of how the sites calculate WAR may have a bearing on how the MVP voting goes, especially to the sabr-friendly voters.
There are sabr-friendly voters?
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