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    Quote Originally Posted by OldYankeeFan
    Please send to Sterling along with something for NJ. "Jolly Ol' St Nick" has got to go!
    Yea, that doesn't work at all. St Nick had lots of hair.

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    Re: 2010 Curtis Granderson Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by grizy
    Curtis Granderson vs LHP 2010:
    .333BA, .385OBP, .500SLG, .885OPS.

    I hope he keeps this up and proves me wrong.

    And if he keeps this up I am voting Kevin Long the MVP of coaching staff.
    if he keeps that up or anything even close, and with his normal numbers against righties, playing CF, he should win MVP.
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    Re: 2010 Curtis Granderson Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Snatch Catch
    Yeah, Rickey was never, ever a triples guy - I mean, not even close to one, really..
    Probably purposely stopped at 2nd so he could steal 3rd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wileedog
    Probably purposely stopped at 2nd so he could steal 3rd.
    Oh, you must know Rickie personally

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    Quote Originally Posted by delv
    if he keeps that up or anything even close, and with his normal numbers against righties, playing CF, he should win MVP.
    Nope, close second to Cano

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    Re: 2010 Curtis Granderson Performance Thread

    As long as he doesn't revert to useless against LHP, I'll be thrilled.

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    Re: 2010 Curtis Granderson Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by wileedog
    Probably purposely stopped at 2nd so he could steal 3rd.
    Haha, he did mention that 3rd was easier to steal than 2nd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ojo
    he reminds me of mickey rivers when he takes off.

    did i hear it right the other day when it was said he's the only player ever to amass 20+ doubles, triples, homers and stolen bases in a season?

    um...yes please!
    the answer to your question is yes

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    he might actually be on pace to do it again this year if he keeps hitting like this. his projected stats for the year on espn have him falling 4 doubles shy of doing it again, hahaha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yankee Tripper
    As long as he doesn't revert to useless against LHP, I'll be thrilled.
    so far he's looking pretty good vs LHP, including some pretty good ABs tonite (smash to second, 12 pitch K). what a GREAT trade !! cheers

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    Re: 2010 Curtis Granderson Performance Thread

    I am very, very glad he is a Yankee.
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    I luv curt

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    Several levels of awesome.

    The coming of The Carpenter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jesterno2
    he might actually be on pace to do it again this year if he keeps hitting like this. his projected stats for the year on espn have him falling 4 doubles shy of doing it again, hahaha.







    On pace for 32 3B / 32 HR / 65 SB

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    i'll be very pleased to see he and brett close in on 35 steals. that would be sweet. batting where he is now, probably gives him more chance of stealing.
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    Re: 2010 Curtis Granderson Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by themgmt
    On pace for 32 3B / 32 HR / 65 SB

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    Re: 2010 Curtis Granderson Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by themgmt







    On pace for 32 3B / 32 HR / 65 SB
    32 triples would break the AL record by 6 and no one has done it in well over 90 years. Projecting anything this early is laughable. Nelson Cruz is on pace to hit 88 HRs and 177 RBI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JfromJersey
    Nelson Cruz is on pace to hit 88 HRs and 177 RBI.
    That sounds about right. Further proving it's accuracy.

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    Re: 2010 Curtis Granderson Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by themgmt
    That sounds about right. Further proving it's accuracy.
    And just to think that a poster here was pushing to get him before last year when he could have been gotten for relatively little in return...but I can't quite remember who that was.
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    Re: 2010 Curtis Granderson Performance Thread

    Was hoping for a Grand Slammerson last night. I eagerly await the next time I can use that again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldYankeeFan
    And just to think that a poster here was pushing to get him before last year when he could have been gotten for relatively little in return...but I can't quite remember who that was.
    he was untradeable before last year. the tigers were still trying to win with older players with higher salary number. The run for young arms started this offseason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melan-cynic
    Was hoping for a Grand Slammerson last night. I eagerly await the next time I can use that again.
    personally, i would have settled for a Granderslam.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldYankeeFan
    And just to think that a poster here was pushing to get him before last year when he could have been gotten for relatively little in return...but I can't quite remember who that was.
    that was me .

    i said it right at the beginning of the playoffs and was laughed at and scolded for it.

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    Re: 2010 Curtis Granderson Performance Thread

    Granderon was on pace for 600+ HR after his first AB, but no SB or triples. He's aging.
    A fool and his money can throw one heck of a party!

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    Re: 2010 Curtis Granderson Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by mike0618
    he was untradeable before last year. the tigers were still trying to win with older players with higher salary number. The run for young arms started this offseason.
    I was referring to Nelson Cruz.
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    Granderson & Gardner really need to have a race.

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    Re: 2010 Curtis Granderson Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by BRNXBMRS
    Granderson & Gardner really need to have a race.

    With Jorge, just for the lulz.
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    Re: 2010 Curtis Granderson Performance Thread

    didn't look good against oliver today, although in fairness, he looked was pitching well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ajra21
    didn't look good against oliver today, although in fairness, he looked was pitching well.
    Nobody looked good against Oliver today.

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    Re: 2010 Curtis Granderson Performance Thread

    Nobody's looked good against Oliver the last two years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BRNXBMRS
    Granderson & Gardner really need to have a race.
    With Ellsbury and Buchholz.


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    Re: 2010 Curtis Granderson Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by ajra21
    didn't look good against oliver today, although in fairness, he looked was pitching well.
    And in fairness, he's been adequate against lefties so far. Hopefully he can keep that up, because you know he's going to get his against RHP.

    Good thing for the Tigers that A-Jax and Scherzer are off to a good start... Tigers fans might be freaking out if those guys were struggling with the way Granderson is going, and Jackson looking pretty good in Arizona.

    IPK looked great in his first start, got punished in his second outing but looks really good again today so far.

    This might be a three way deal where everyone makes out ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by False1
    This might be a three way deal where everyone makes out ok.
    this makes sense, and who knows how those other guys will perform down the line, hard to judge right now. but i still see us as doing the best, not only as it looks like CG will exceed expectations all around, but also how the deal let cashman set up the rest of his offseason.......... making melky and matsui expendable, taking the pressure off re damon and paving the way for nick, which in turn (with $$ saved) paved the way for javy. big kudos to cashman on this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JSG
    this makes sense, and who knows how those other guys will perform down the line, hard to judge right now. but i still see us as doing the best, not only as it looks like CG will exceed expectations all around, but also how the deal let cashman set up the rest of his offseason.......... making melky and matsui expendable, taking the pressure off re damon and paving the way for nick, which in turn (with $$ saved) paved the way for javy. big kudos to cashman on this one.
    we miss grandy. but we are happy with how all the players we got in that trade are doing. see you guys in the playoffs.. (hopefully)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike0618
    we miss grandy. but we are happy with how all the players we got in that trade are doing. see you guys in the playoffs.. (hopefully)
    granderson has exceeded expectations and is a great guy. was sad to see ajax go, i hope he does well for you. coke ......... well, good luck. damon's very solid also, was surprised he didn't wind up back here at the end, and also that the tigers wound up paying him $8MM when the next best offer was reportedly around $5MM (hey, come clean, what's the local dirt ?? ....... is boras really paying half his salary ??) ........... over and out / cheers

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    Re: 2010 Curtis Granderson Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by False1
    And in fairness, he's been adequate against lefties so far. Hopefully he can keep that up, because you know he's going to get his against RHP.

    Good thing for the Tigers that A-Jax and Scherzer are off to a good start... Tigers fans might be freaking out if those guys were struggling with the way Granderson is going, and Jackson looking pretty good in Arizona.

    IPK looked great in his first start, got punished in his second outing but looks really good again today so far.

    This might be a three way deal where everyone makes out ok.
    I'm starting to see the box scores of Tiger games, and I see the Ks are starting to pile up for Jackson.
    And the league hasn't even figured him out yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLURPEE
    I'm starting to see the box scores of Tiger games, and I see the Ks are starting to pile up for Jackson.
    And the league hasn't even figured him out yet.
    Yup. His k/PA of over 30% is uninspiring, as is the .29 BB/K ratio and the .452 BABIP. He will struggle in the near future.

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    Re: 2010 Curtis Granderson Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by yankee82093
    Yup. His k/PA of over 30% is uninspiring, as is the .29 BB/K ratio and the .452 BABIP. He will struggle in the near future.
    Yeah, he's due for some correction. I seriously doubt he'll ever amount to more than a league average CF.
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    I think he'll become a pretty good defensive CF. End up average 20-28 doubles a year.

    .270 ish, 5-10 HRs, .330-350 obp. Along with a ton of Ks. Definitely not a All*Star caliber even in a league where big time CF are missing. Decent player though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yankee82093
    Yup. His k/PA of over 30% is uninspiring, as is the .29 BB/K ratio and the .452 BABIP. He will struggle in the near future.
    Are you involved in statistics in some way professionally? I've never heard of most of the stats you refer to.

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    Re: 2010 Curtis Granderson Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by SLURPEE
    I think he'll become a pretty good defensive CF. End up average 20-28 doubles a year.

    .270 ish, 5-10 HRs, .330-350 obp. Along with a ton of Ks. Definitely not a All*Star caliber even in a league where big time CF are missing. Decent player though.
    Why is he going to hit 10-20 home runs less then is average over the past four years?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MLB007
    Are you involved in statistics in some way professionally? I've never heard of most of the stats you refer to.
    No, not professionally. Many of the stats I refer you would recognize if you were just familiar with the abbreviations

    for example:

    K/PA: percentage of plate appearances that end in strikeouts. Obviously a high percentage, like Austin Jackson's 31%, is quite bad. Average is about 20.5%.

    BB/K: Walks divided by strikeouts. Obviously, you want your position players to walk a lot and strike out a little. .50 is average, making Austin Jackon's .29 quite bad. Basically, the average player strikeouts twice as often as they walk and Austin Jackson strikeouts out three times as often as he walks.

    BABIP: Batting Average on Balls In Play. This is a more complex stat than BB/K and K/PA, in terms of its usage and meaning. If you want a real explanation just ask.

    Another stat I use a lot

    wOBA: weighted on base average. Hopefully you're familiar with OPS, which is On base [percentage] plus slugging [percentage]. One issue with OPS is that it weights slugging and on base skill equally, when on base skill has been shown to be more important. Basically, wOBA is OPS except it corrects for this issue and is placed on the scale of OBP. Extensions of this stat include wRC+, which just puts wOBA performance within the context of the league average player (100 is average, 110 is ten percent above average, etc. Also includes league adjustments)

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    Re: 2010 Curtis Granderson Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by SLURPEE
    I think he'll become a pretty good defensive CF. End up average 20-28 doubles a year.

    .270 ish, 5-10 HRs, .330-350 obp. Along with a ton of Ks. Definitely not a All*Star caliber even in a league where big time CF are missing. Decent player though.
    considering he's got 2 homeruns already, I'm going to put that 5-10HR prediction in the "conservative" category.
    A fool and his money can throw one heck of a party!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePinStripes
    considering he's got 2 homeruns already, I'm going to put that 5-10HR prediction in the "conservative" category.
    Huh? AJ has 0 homeruns.
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    Re: 2010 Curtis Granderson Performance Thread

    He thought that prediction was for Granderson.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jcarey
    With Ellsbury and Buchholz.
    Next time the Yanks play the Sox they can have a relay around the entire warning track, instead of a baton they can use a bat.

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    Re: 2010 Curtis Granderson Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by yankee82093
    No, not professionally. Many of the stats I refer you would recognize if you were just familiar with the abbreviations

    for example:

    K/PA: percentage of plate appearances that end in strikeouts. Obviously a high percentage, like Austin Jackson's 31%, is quite bad. Average is about 20.5%.

    BB/K: Walks divided by strikeouts. Obviously, you want your position players to walk a lot and strike out a little. .50 is average, making Austin Jackon's .29 quite bad. Basically, the average player strikeouts twice as often as they walk and Austin Jackson strikeouts out three times as often as he walks.

    BABIP: Batting Average on Balls In Play. This is a more complex stat than BB/K and K/PA, in terms of its usage and meaning. If you want a real explanation just ask.

    Another stat I use a lot

    wOBA: weighted on base average. Hopefully you're familiar with OPS, which is On base [percentage] plus slugging [percentage]. One issue with OPS is that it weights slugging and on base skill equally, when on base skill has been shown to be more important. Basically, wOBA is OPS except it corrects for this issue and is placed on the scale of OBP. Extensions of this stat include wRC+, which just puts wOBA performance within the context of the league average player (100 is average, 110 is ten percent above average, etc. Also includes league adjustments)

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    Re: 2010 Curtis Granderson Performance Thread

    There's no doubt in my mind that the second the Yankees go on a three game losing streak and the bottom third of the order comes back to Earth, the nay-sayers will re-surface and demand that the team blows up the bottom third, moves Gardner back to the 4th OF role, and remove Granderson every time the Yankees face a left handed pitcher, but in the mean time...

    the balance of this team is fun to watch- as opposed to the 05' or 06' Yanks that could only beat you with the long ball, the versatility of Granderson and Gardner at the bottom will truly maximize this lineup's potential. And right now, Granderson is definitely fun to watch.

    Can you imagine how deadly this lineup is going to be when Tex awakens from his long winter's nap?
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