http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/10474818/Source:-M%27s,-Figgins-on-verge-of-$36M-contract
Not a huge overpay considering how versatile he is, good for the M's
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/10474818/Source:-M%27s,-Figgins-on-verge-of-$36M-contract
Not a huge overpay considering how versatile he is, good for the M's
SI: Do you have a secret ambition?
Igawa: That's secret.
"They should just practice during the regular season and show up for the playoffs -Ichiro on the Yankees
better them than us
Baseball is life;
the rest is just details.
9 MILL PER YEAR?? ridiculous. this man had an OPS+ of 108 last year. and where will they play him?
edit: forgot beltre went FA. they should've signed him instead, just not bat him 2nd or wherever he was.
"First batter up well here's the pitch: it's a curve. Second batter up because the first got served"
3rd base. Unless Beltre unexpectedly accepts arbitration, then they are really screwed.Originally Posted by delv
Baseball is life;
the rest is just details.
Probably 3B...
They can just move Figgins to 2B in that case.
Their defense are going to be really really good.
dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb...but they do have the sickest defense in baseball.
I think it's a decent signing. Not good, not bad.
Figgins is overrated but he can play 5 positions. That gives a team lots of flexibility. And besides LF, his production in CF, 3B, SS, 2B should be average.
I'd rather have Beltre who I can't see getting that type of money IMO.
Angels might still be in it, let the bidding war begin!
Per Tim Brown at Yahoo
SI: Do you have a secret ambition?
Igawa: That's secret.
"They should just practice during the regular season and show up for the playoffs -Ichiro on the Yankees
Figgins was a much better player than Beltre last year.
Figgins' asking price is 4 years $36M. I don't see much a bidding war here.
Maybe once he's off the Angels he'll stop hitting .974 against the Yankees...
238 more runs to score 1000.
2010 GT record: 8-5 (including two near no-hitters)
2:50pm: Heyman now tweets that the Ms are "very close to getting Figgins."
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/
I don't like this move for the M's unless it's just one of 2-3 moves they plan on making to improve their offense.
I could think of a few moves that could make the M's an easy 90+ win team with only adding $20 million more to payroll.
SI: Do you have a secret ambition?
Igawa: That's secret.
"They should just practice during the regular season and show up for the playoffs -Ichiro on the Yankees
They are in on Bay, Lackey and Harden too. Wii's must be selling this holiday season.
Their payroll right now is around $50M. 2001 was the last time that their payroll was lower than $80M. In 2007 and 2008 their payroll were over $100M. So I think they have the money to spend.
Oof...he's not that good. Whatever though..maybe he kills the Angels now
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Figgins is an alright player to have, but you're sure investing a lot of money if you think he's going to repeat last years performance...
If they can sign a DH like Delgado for cheap and resign Branyan, they have a nice little offense. Maybe add a Harden, and they can win the West (unless the Angels do something drastic like trade for Halladay).
Mariners love to spend money in strange places...He has never hit well against them so that couldnt be part of the attraction.
"Owning the Yankees," Steinbrenner once said, "is like owning the Mona Lisa."
They've already got Griffey slotted for DH most of the time.
I can't complain but sometimes I still do. - Joe Walsh
I don't think the Mariners are banking on the Mariners to be their full-time DH. More of a part-time role.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4644525
"I'd like to thank the Mariners organization for inviting me back to play in 2010," Griffey said in a statement. "While 2009 was an awesome experience for me, my ultimate goal is for the Mariners to get to and win the World Series. To that end, I look forward to contributing in any role that Don sees fit on the field, and any manner I possibly can off the field."
But would they want to bring in another DH-only type of player? I suppose they could split the playing time up so that an aging DH (Delgado, Matsui, etc.) could get some ABs while Griffey gets some ABs both in the field and at DH and they all sit at times, but unless they think one more part-time bat to go along with Griffey's part-time bat can win the division for them, I'm not sure another part-time bat is a good idea.
I can assume that a player like Delgado can play 1B if they want to give Griffey ABs at DH. If they don't sign a Bay or Holliday or somebody big to play left field, they can still have Griffey spot start or pinch hit for their rookie Michael Saunders in tight spots.
Griffey would still get his ABs if they signed a Delgado.
A nice little offense? They scored 640 runs, third fewest in all of baseball.
To put it in perspective, offensive powerhouses like the Giants, Reds and Royals scored more runs.
Adding Figgins and possibly Delgado is not going to save them.
The Mariners were total frauds last year. They won 85 games, but had a -55 run differential.
The Angels will probably be much better than them again next season.
It's official:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200....ap/index.htmlChone Figgins is moving up the coast in the AL West.
The Mariners and the third baseman have a preliminary agreement on a $36 million, four-year contract, a person familiar with the deal told The Associated Press on Friday night.
The person spoke on the condition of anonymity because the Mariners had yet to announce the deal, which was first reported to be close by Foxsports.com.
The contract, which is subject to a physical, includes a vesting option for 2014 that could make the deal worth $45 million over five years.
I like the signing for the M's. If they can get a big bat (Bay) and another good starter (Lackey/Harden) they could certainly make the playoffs.
Mariners are making moves, they are also looking hard at Bay for LF
mariners are no joke next season
The real reason why the Yankees keep winning is cause the other team can't stop staring at the damn pinstripes
Let's hope the Figgins of last season's post season is the Figgins the Mariners gets.
If I had 3 wishes... One of my wishes would be to make a select few of you Pirates Fans.
I think the real joke is people ignoring their Pythagorean record.
Everyone hyped up the Mariners going into 2008 because in 2007 they won 88 games despite their -27 run differential.
The following year they won a whopping 61 games.
Ageed - they will regret this contract. Can't blame Figgins for taking the money if it happens.
Plays the game the wrong way.
I guarantee that Brandon Wood becomes a monster at 3b this season, similar to when Tex left LAA and Morales tore it up.
The question is : Will Wood do so in a jersey that says "Angels" or "Toronto" in the front?
I think Figgins is a good addition for the Mariners. He's exactly the type of player you need in a pitcher's ballpark like Safeco.
Figgins and Ichiro make for a very solid 1-2 punch at the top of the Seattle lineup.
"meet the new Boss...same as the old Boss.." - Pete Townshend/Roger Daltrey - The Who (1971)
"Glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever." - Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)
Figgins will be a 3 WAR player... 9 million isn't that bad...
Javier Vazquez's 2010 season
22-3... 2.55 ERA... 375 K
Bay is a WA resident, so it's definitely a possibility.
Mo on repeating in 2010:
“The question is, do we want to do it? The question is, are we still hungry enough to do it?”
Plus his family hails from Trail, BC , Canada which is only a 90 minute drive away.
If the Mariners make a competitive offer, Bay could very well be a Mariner in 2010. They need to show King Felix they're serious about winning if they want to re-sign him.
"meet the new Boss...same as the old Boss.." - Pete Townshend/Roger Daltrey - The Who (1971)
"Glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever." - Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)
It's also a big move taking him away from their main division rival. The road to the playoffs have always gone through Anaheim for a while now.
If Rowland-Smith can pitch the way he did down the stretch and get a big bat, they will be a contender.
Mo on repeating in 2010:
“The question is, do we want to do it? The question is, are we still hungry enough to do it?”
I figure they'll go after Lackey now too. They've always been considered in the running for him, and now that they've already given their first rounder to Anaheim, they might as well.
So is Beltre, but nobody knows it, so he wouldn't be able to demand as high a contract.
"First batter up well here's the pitch: it's a curve. Second batter up because the first got served"
Who bats first though?
Unquestionably Ichiro.
I did some lengthy thinking about this, given Ichiro's high BABIP... you might think he would be better in a run-producing slot in the batting order (hits are more useful than walks for driving in runs). However, so many of his hits are of the infield variety (about 50 per yr and increasing, despite his age), that he'd probably just hit into a bunch of fielder's choices if he batted lower in the order. In a sense, his many infield singles end up functioning just like walks, which is just what you want from your leadoff hitter.
(not that Ichiro couldn't change his style and probably do something else)
"First batter up well here's the pitch: it's a curve. Second batter up because the first got served"
It will probably be part of Figgins' contract that Ichiro will bat leadoff and Figgins will have to take some pitches.
Ichiro. No way they ask him to do otherwise. The resigned Griffey over going after Matsui just because Ichiro needs a pal in the dugout.
Mo on repeating in 2010:
“The question is, do we want to do it? The question is, are we still hungry enough to do it?”
Gammons Twitter:
As I said in the Hot Stove thread, that would be a very nice haul (top 3 of 4 FAs IMO).One exec says "watch the Mariners on Lackey and Bay. They still have a lot of cash, and Jack Z loves to lay low and strike"
If they made all those moves, that would certainly make the AL West very very interesting.
"Long Island is New Jersey with a GED." - Triumph the Insult Comic Dog.
And then this from Rosenthal:
The Mariners have initiated long-term contract discussions with right-hander Felix Hernandez, but the two sides are far apart, according to a major-league source.
Hernandez, 23, is two years away from free agency. He is happy in Seattle, the source said, but willing to continue going year-to-year in arbitration and then seek a CC Sabathia-type contract on the open market.
Sabathia signed a seven-year, $161 deal with the Yankees last winter. The average annual value of that contract is $23 million.
The Mariners are believed to have offered Hernandez a four-year contract in the $45 million range. Such a deal would cover his final two years of arbitration and first two years of free agency.
Hernandez earned $3.8 million last season and finished second in the American League Cy Young Award balloting. His salaries in arbitration could rise to $7 million next season and then $10 million in 2011. Add two free-agent years at $23 million, and his goal in a four-year deal likely would be above $60 million. He also could seek a longer term — say, six years — and a total package of more than $100 million.
"Long Island is New Jersey with a GED." - Triumph the Insult Comic Dog.
That's a lowball offer. The M's need to step up here and open up the vault. He is more valuable than Ichiro.
Mo on repeating in 2010:
“The question is, do we want to do it? The question is, are we still hungry enough to do it?”
I think they will. It's just the first offer. They have plenty of time to get it done.
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