The 2009-10 New York Knicks Thread

[Joba-Walkee]

I know it's been said...but if they're going to be the worst team in the league, it figures it would be when they have no draft pick.

What, did the Nets already get contracted?

[RYMASTER or Ryan_Yankees]

What, did the Nets already get contracted?

I think being within 6 miles of each other is causing an inescapable black hole of suck for these teams.

[Snatch Catch]

I really, really, really need to find that video of Gallo singing Halo with Al Harrington trying to guess the song. It still makes me laugh when I think about it. Best moment of the season so far.

[ksison]

knicks lose by 2.

if they play the entire game the way they play the 4th......


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[chanman7483]

Good god, Golden State hung 146 on the Wolves last night...

[Snatch Catch]

Sessions would look great in a Knicks uni right about now.

[chanman7483]

Sessions would look great in a Knicks uni right about now.

I love how the Wolves took Flynn, Rubio, and Sessions from us...

[Snatch Catch]

I love how the Wolves took Flynn, Rubio, and Sessions from us...

Wolves may have taken Flynn and Rubio, but not Sessions. Unfortunately, Walsh gave him to Minny.

[ARoDfan4life]

Ladies and Gentleman either Plaxico Burress escaped from jail or Jenny Craig was secretly working behind closed doors.

EDDY CURRY BEFORE/YESTERDAY



IT'S LIKE A HALEY'S COMET

[RYMASTER or Ryan_Yankees]

[ARoDfan4life]

Dude Herb Williams can see the walls. Reporters can actually see the Knicks background screen. Allan Houston is shocked.

[DaSh 1s]

wow, my man literally looked like a beached whale last year.

[Snatch Catch]

It's a testament to the sad state of affairs the Knicks have become in recent years that I got excited upon seeing those pictures. Wow.

I'm refusing to get even the least bit excited though. Those pictures of Eddy are akin to the Jets 4-0 start for me.

Video of his media session yesterday:

[ksison]

wow...

[chanman7483]

I've been beating the Eddy Curry drum for years... time to silence the haters EC!!!! Can't wait to step on all the fingers of people trying to climb on his bandwagon when he starts putting up 20/10's like he did a few years back!!!!

[JfromJersey]

I've been beating the Eddy Curry drum for years... time to silence the haters EC!!!! Can't wait to step on all the fingers of people trying to climb on his bandwagon when he starts putting up 20/10's like he did a few years back!!!!

Climb on his bandwagon? Last year he was literally large enough to be hitched to a bandwagon.

[CyYoung4Vazquez]

Over/under how on how many games he plays? 5? 10? 15?

[SLURPEE]

This organization is a boarder line mess. The only thing saving them is the fact they may get LeBron next year.

But how embarrassing it is that they may only win 15-20 games and not have a first round pick?
And it won't be their usually 8th pick in the draft, it will be top 3.

The worst thing you can be in the NBA is mediocre. And that is what the Knicks are and have been the last 8 years.

If you're going to rebuild you have to put yourself in position to draft high enough. Winning 33 games does not help you. The coach has to know that.

Why not tank last year? Put your worst lineup out there and hope for the worst.

Over the last 2 years they've could have easily had Stephen Curry or Rubio and O.J Mayo.

I have no issue with rebuilding. but they are just going about it the wrong way. and the worst thing that could happen was hiring Isaiah Thomas. Had Donnie Walsh been in charge back then the Knicks would be in a much better place right now.

[Panamaniac42]

Step 1: Pray for Eddy to average 20 & 10.

Step 2: Pay a Phoenix Suns insider to instigate a locker room brawl between Ben Wallace & Steve Nash.

Step 3: Trade Eddy for Ben Wallace's expiring contract.


In all seriousness though if we can get Eddy going I'm not opposed to shipping him off in a package with Nate or maybe even Chandler depending on what's coming back.

[dabomb2045]

Eddy Curry is everything thats wrong with pro athletes. Blessed with a gift--so much talent and ability to play a pro sport....and he wastes it cuz he is a lazy POS, has no work ethic, just doesnt care about himself and is just a waste of space.

I always say Derek Jeter is the perfect guy to tell a kid to model himself after if he wanted to grow up to be a baseball player....well Curry is exactly the type of guy to NOT model yourself after if you wanna grow up to play in the NBA.

Im not gonna get excited cuz Curry finally found the weight room and a nutrionist's office....lets see if he can keep it up.

[Panamaniac42]

Daydreaming...sorry.

1. R. Rubio
2. J. Johnson
3. D. Gallinari
4. C. Bosh
5. D. Lee

[Snatch Catch]

Im not gonna get excited cuz Curry finally found the weight room and a nutrionist's office....lets see if he can keep it up.

He actually said he didn't change his diet.

[Snatch Catch]

Daydreaming...sorry.

1. R. Rubio
2. J. Johnson
3. D. Gallinari
4. C. Bosh
5. D. Lee

There's this part of me that still believes strongly that the Knicks end up with Rubio.

[Panamaniac42]

There's this part of me that still believes strongly that the Knicks end up with Rubio.

I imagine the Wolves would rather trot Wilson Chandler out there at forward instead of Ryan Gomes or Oleksiy Pecherov.

[Snatch Catch]

Well, then there's the question of whether or not there are escape clauses in his contract prior to the 2 years being up.

I have this daydream that there's a specific clause in there about the buyout being minimal if the Knicks acquire his rights. I have have no idea if that is even possible though.

[SLURPEE]

This is way off topic but can the Knicks ditch the current uni and go back to their old one's?

Also go back to the really old school/original logo please: "Father Knickerbocker" I love this logo/symbol:


father_knickerbocker_logo.gif

[chanman7483]

Eddy Curry is going to be throwing 20/10s up there like nobody's business. Just enough to get shipped out with anyone on the team (other than Lee, since I was semi-forced into getting his swingman jersey, and don't want it to be out of style in a few weeks) for an expiring contract.

I don't want to hear anymore about how Knicks mgmt did this and that, and complain about the lack of a lottery pick this year. That's old news, continued fallout from the Isiah and Marbury days - the gifts that keep on giving. Let's focus on the present and the future, and keep any additional unnecessary negativity outta here!

[ksison]

He actually said he didn't change his diet.

oh so it wasnt what he was eating... he was just lazy!!!

[chanman7483]

Set your expectations though.. We already know we have no defense and our offense is suspect. Curry can only help in this scenario because he also plays zero defense and can't further hurt our offense because it's looking pretty pathetic these days. I say run the offense through him when he gets his legs under him like we did in 2006/2007. I might sound crazy, but I do remember seeing some semblance of a face up game up to 15 feet from Curry back then. With the weight loss, maybe we let him roam around and throw up a few J's as well? Why the hell not

[LongLiveBernie51!]

Set your expectations though.. We already know we have no defense and our offense is suspect. Curry can only help in this scenario because he also plays zero defense and can't further hurt our offense because it's looking pretty pathetic these days. I say run the offense through him when he gets his legs under him like we did in 2006/2007. I might sound crazy, but I do remember seeing some semblance of a face up game up to 15 feet from Curry back then. With the weight loss, maybe we let him roam around and throw up a few J's as well? Why the hell not

Any production we get from him will be nice...and then he can go away forever and be thankful to the Knicks for donating to his do nothing and get paid lifestyle aka the Pavano lifestyle.

[dabomb2045]

Run him out there for 45 minutes a night....if he cant handle it and has to retire cuz his lazy ass cant get up and down the floor more then twice at a time, maybe we can at least get a medical exemption from the league.

[Snatch Catch]

I don't want to hear anymore about how Knicks mgmt did this and that, and complain about the lack of a lottery pick this year. That's old news, continued fallout from the Isiah and Marbury days - the gifts that keep on giving. Let's focus on the present and the future, and keep any additional unnecessary negativity outta here!

This is the most accurate thing written on this site in quite some time.

Everyone needs to STFU about a draftpick we all knew we'd be without for years now, and how inept the prior management was. We've had plenty of time to complain and commiserate. That's over and done with.

The Knicks currently suck and need to get better starting now.

[dabomb2045]

What else should we talk about? There is literally nothing interesting to discuss about the 2009-10 Knicks. Not one thing. They are a 20-30 win team and we dont even have the 2010 Draft to look forward to. I mean what is there to be excited about or interested about? Unless people are really excited about Eddy Curry being informed that weight rooms exist and cardio conditioning is important when you are a pro athlete.

Then again, how much can we really talk about the 2010 free agents right now either? Its so far away. Hence why complaining and making fun of the Knicks is really the only thing to do right now to kill time between now and 7/1/10.

[LongLiveBernie51!]

What else should we talk about? There is literally nothing interesting to discuss about the 2009-10 Knicks. Not one thing. They are a 20-30 win team and we dont even have the 2010 Draft to look forward to. I mean what is there to be excited about or interested about? Unless people are really excited about Eddy Curry being informed that weight rooms exist and cardio conditioning is important when you are a pro athlete.

Then again, how much can we really talk about the 2010 free agents right now either? Its so far away. Hence why complaining and making fun of the Knicks is really the only thing to do right now to kill time between now and 7/1/10.

This is a good question. Basketball was my favorite sport growing up but this current team makes it almost unwatchable. The Knicks will always be my team but right now they are not really that interesting and, quite frankly, noone on their roster is that likable to have any optimistic discussion. I will try though.

I was a die hard Starks fan. Ewing, Oakley, Mason, Harper. Goodness, I would do anything to get a guy on the Knicks that had a fraction of the heart that those teams had. Forget talent. Those teams won with lesser talent and supreme desire.

[kan_t]

What else should we talk about? There is literally nothing interesting to discuss about the 2009-10 Knicks. Not one thing. They are a 20-30 win team and we dont even have the 2010 Draft to look forward to. I mean what is there to be excited about or interested about? Unless people are really excited about Eddy Curry being informed that weight rooms exist and cardio conditioning is important when you are a pro athlete.

Then again, how much can we really talk about the 2010 free agents right now either? Its so far away. Hence why complaining and making fun of the Knicks is really the only thing to do right now to kill time between now and 7/1/10.

I am not a Knicks fan but I'm interested in following Danilo Gallinari. I think it's a good pick. I also want to see Jordan Hill getting more playing time. If you give up your season, at least give your top pick playing time for him to develop.

[dabomb2045]

This is a good question. Basketball was my favorite sport growing up but this current team makes it almost unwatchable. The Knicks will always be my team but right now they are not really that interesting and, quite frankly, noone on their roster is that likable to have any optimistic discussion. I will try though.

I was a die hard Starks fan. Ewing, Oakley, Mason, Harper. Goodness, I would do anything to get a guy on the Knicks that had a fraction of the heart that those teams had. Forget talent. Those teams won with lesser talent and supreme desire.

Couldnt have said it better myself. Those 90s teams werent exactly talented but they were easy to root for...cuz they were filled w/blue collar guys who busted their ass every night, were tough as nails and wore their hearts on their sleeves. A guy like Oakley had very little talent but I'd go to war with someone like him anyday of the week.

I mean when you think about it, its rather amazing those Knicks teams gave those 90s Bulls teams such a hard time as they did. They had arguably the greatest player ever, a second HOF'er, and a very good PF'er (whether it was Grant in the 1st three-peat or Rodman in the 2nd) while we had a HOF center and a bunch of role players. But we were just such a tough team that played such hard defense--and defense is really just effort. I miss those teams.

[Panamaniac42]

I am not a Knicks fan but I'm interested in following Danilo Gallinari. I think it's a good pick. I also want to see Jordan Hill getting more playing time. If you give up your season, at least give your top pick playing time for him to develop.

Hill's not going to play until another move is made, unfortunately. Benching someone like Al Harrington would be unjustifiable and make the locker room an even worse environment.

I may start rooting for the Houston Rockets, who are currently fielding a starting lineup of Brooks-Ariza-Battier-Scola-Hayes. If they are in contention around the deadline, perhaps they bite on a Curry/Harrington package for the corpse of Tracy McGrady.

Just another daydream I guess but I'm glad we're all still active in this thread.

[Panamaniac42]

By the way, I can't even be mad about the lack of a pick this year. Yes Isiah was horrible but was there anyone here hesitant at the time of the Steph deal? Marbury was an incredible talent. A 26-year-old All-Star point guard who could average 20 points and 8 dimes in his sleep, who just happened to be a hometown boy? I can't fault Isiah for mortgaging the future (including throwing in an extra pick 6 years later). I would have done it myself. Who knew it would blow up so bad?

If I'm going to bitch over something it's Jared Jeffries. Everyone already knew what he was (a string bean who could get you 5 pts and 5 rebs in 25 minutes), absolutely no need to throw your MLE at mediocrity. The fact that we're on the hook for him for $7m next year continues to drive me crazy.

[dabomb2045]

By the way, I can't even be mad about the lack of a pick this year. Yes Isiah was horrible but was there anyone here hesitant at the time of the Steph deal? Marbury was an incredible talent. A 26-year-old All-Star point guard who could average 20 points and 8 dimes in his sleep, who just happened to be a hometown boy? I can't fault Isiah for mortgaging the future (including throwing in an extra pick 6 years later). I would have done it myself. Who knew it would blow up so bad?

If I'm going to bitch over something it's Jared Jeffries. Everyone already knew what he was (a string bean who could get you 5 pts and 5 rebs in 25 minutes), absolutely no need to throw your MLE at mediocrity. The fact that we're on the hook for him for $7m next year continues to drive me crazy.

I was against Marbury from Day 1. Never liked the guy. He left a horrible taste in my mouth the way he forced himself out of Minnesota, all because he wanted to be "the man" and didnt wanna play second banana to KG. Hmm lets see....1) Be a second scoring option to KG, form a very good 1-2 combo, be on a playoff team at least with the potential to get much better or 2) whine and complain my way off the team, away from one of the best PF's of this era, and end up on a ................ty team in NJ...where I will lose 50 games a year BUT score 25-30 a night and inflate my personal stats. He's a selfish player that doesnt make the players around him better. I mean compare him to the guy who took his place in Phoenix (Nash). Does Nash have the pure talent and athletic ability Marbury has? Of course not. But he understands how to play the game, and he has a knack of making his teammates better.

Dude is a loser...always has been, always will be.

[RYMASTER or Ryan_Yankees]

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[YanksFan1992]

Well, at least we play New Jersey next week!

[RYMASTER or Ryan_Yankees]

Well, at least we play New Jersey next week!

64-63 final.

[Joba-Walkee]

Well, at least we play New Jersey next week!

I wouldn't take the Nets too lightly. They've played the last few games very closely, even with 7 guys down.

[JfromJersey]

Another piss poor effort tonight. The Knicks simply don't know how to compete. Duhon and Jeffries are completely useless and should be glued to the bench. At least Douglas looks like a player, but the Knicks are looking more and more like a team that will be competing with the Nets for the worst record in the league, but without a lottery pick.

[wexy]

Blech.

[Panamaniac42]

I wouldn't take the Nets too lightly. They've played the last few games very closely, even with 7 guys down.

Let's not try to polish a turd I know you're a diehard Nets fan but both of these teams suck. You're right though, the Knicks probably suck more at this point.

Even if these two teams merged I'm not sure they'd farther than the first round of the playoffs.

[Yankee Fan in Boston]

Another piss poor effort tonight. The Knicks simply don't know how to compete. Duhon and Jeffries are completely useless and should be glued to the bench. At least Douglas looks like a player, but the Knicks are looking more and more like a team that will be competing with the Nets for the worst record in the league, but without a lottery pick.

How could LeBron resist?

[SLURPEE]

LeBron wearing Yankee sneakers congratulating the 27th championship.


You I don't understand the people who argue why he would come to the Knicks instead of staying with Cleveland.

I don't think I need to explain the whole 'it's MSG' 'mecca of basketball' 'it's New York' stuff.

People seem to not understand that the only reason why Cleveland is as good as they are is because of him.
Where is his great supporting cast? If he had one I think there is zero chance he leaves. but he has none so it's a moot point.
They (the Cavs) are the freaking current Knicks without LeBron. They suck and their talent minus LeBron is no better then the Knicks.

Now I don't know what their cap situation is but Knicks can bring in a second guy. Which could really intrigue LeBron.
LeBron/Wade LeBron/Johnson LeBron/Bosh
Like I said I don't know what their cap is IF they bring LeBron back. Do they have cap space for another max contract?

[kan_t]

LeBron wearing Yankee sneakers congratulating the 27th championship.


You I don't understand the people who argue why he would come to the Knicks instead of staying with Cleveland.

I don't think I need to explain the whole 'it's MSG' 'mecca of basketball' 'it's New York' stuff.

People seem to not understand that the only reason why Cleveland is as good as they are is because of him.
Where is his great supporting cast? If he had one I think there is zero chance he leaves. but he has none so it's a moot point.
They (the Cavs) are the freaking current Knicks without LeBron. They suck and their talent minus LeBron is no better then the Knicks.

Now I don't know what their cap situation is but Knicks can bring in a second guy. Which could really intrigue LeBron.
LeBron/Wade LeBron/Johnson LeBron/Bosh
Like I said I don't know what their cap is IF they bring LeBron back. Do they have cap space for another max contract?

First, the Cavs' supporting cast is not good but still better than the Knicks.
Second, the Nets have the money to spend and better supporting cast than the Knicks.
Third, the Heats have room to keep Wade and sign one of the second guy.

[Joba-Walkee]

Let's not try to polish a turd I know you're a diehard Nets fan but both of these teams suck. You're right though, the Knicks probably suck more at this point.

Even if these two teams merged I'm not sure they'd farther than the first round of the playoffs.

I agree, both teams suck. Considering the health of the Nets, I'd say they suck more right now.