Who do you guys think has the better curve ball?
Phil Hughes
AJ Burnette
Who do you guys think has the better curve ball?
Lead the way, Mr. Girardi.
Never heard of Burnette so it's gotta be Hughes.
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Hughes has a better curve than that Burnadette broad, whoever she is
Who's Burnette?
I'll answer seriously, lol. It's AJ. Best raw stuff in baseball.
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AJ by a million.
Calmer than you are.
Is Burnette the new Petit?
The loser now will be later to win...
AJ and it's not particularly close.
I thought it was Pettite.Originally Posted by NewEraYanks2527
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AJ. That curve is just all sorts of nasty.
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Brunette???
AJ has the best curve in the game.
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My last name is Pettit not Pettitte
does Hughes excel with any of his pitches? his biggest claim to fame when he was in the minors was his control, no?
"First batter up well here's the pitch: it's a curve. Second batter up because the first got served"
Not even a debate but I look forward to 2.50's argument
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Have you watched him? Just because Burnett's curve is better, doesn't mean Hughes doesn't have good pitches. His fastball and curve can both be plus (and for the past couple months they both have been consistently)
A.J., he probably has the best in the game. But Phil's is nasty also.
good pitches, sure... but not excellent pitches. From what I've seen with Phil, what makes him effective is keeping batters off-balance. Hitters aren't whiffing at 94 mph fastballs slightly above the belt because they're overpowered...
"First batter up well here's the pitch: it's a curve. Second batter up because the first got served"
Never know on these boardsI thought it was Pettite.
The loser now will be later to win...
Easily Burnett. Minus the "e".
(But my OCD isn't letting me vote in the poll since that's not an option.)
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Hughes is nasty, but burnett has a sharper break....
that being said, seeing Hughes in the bullpen, Philly has better, more consistent control of it.
Burnett's curve is harder and has better movement.
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Burnett has the best Curve in Baseball.
By itself AJ's hammer curve is MUCH nastier. It has so much movement hitters, even if they ID the pitch correctly and go after it, often just end up with weak contact.
Hughes has a great curve, but it's not so good if he misses location he can get away with it. (Robertson is similar like this, great curve, but if he mislocates he's screwed.)
I also have a suspicion Hughes throws two different curves, a 12-6 and a slurve. It could just be an accident and symptom of lack of control, but he's been hitting the borders of the strike zone pretty well.
I actually prefer Zeetoe's curve.
Javy Vazquez's 2010 non-Cy Young season: 4-10, 7.15 ERA, 140 Ks, 170 IP.
Is this a joke? A.J.'s curve is so good he doesn't need to throw a third pitch.
The difference between "good" and "excellent" pitches is completely subjective. Hughes may not have Joba 2007 stuff (almost noone does), but a plus fastball and plus curve doesn't mean he's getting by on deception alone. Think of Roy Halladay (and most good starters), he doesn't have any superweapon pitches, just like 3 plus ones and very good command of all of them. CC Sabathia has a plus fastball, slider, and above average changeup (which has been pretty inconsistent this year), and very good command, thats it
You must be drunk if you think Hughes has a better curve than Burnett.
Who voted for Hughes besides 2.50 and rocketbooster?
Calmer than you are.
I was wondering the same thing
Aj...
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I wish we could see the names. I notice 2.50 hasn't posted in this thread yet.
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AJ's curve is a strikeout pitch. Hughes throws it primarily to keep the hitters off balance.
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El Duque.
You can overpower hitters and not throw 98 - you make it sound like Phil's a soft-tosser. He's got a lot of late life on his pitches.....that's what makes him hard to hit.
It' s not fair to compare his curve or anyone else's for that matter to AJ's..
Hughes Rules: Pleading the Fifth
Excuse me, but I didn't vote and I would appreciate it if you would not make snide comments about me when I didn't say anything about you.
Hughes Rules: Pleading the Fifth
Yeah, just hilarious... give me a break
Hughes Rules: Pleading the Fifth
LOL, you even respond to them? LOL
Royal Flush: Hughes, Sabathia, Betances, Brackman, Banuelos.
obviously AJ. But then again, sometimes AJ can't control it as well because of how devastating it can be.
Burnett and it isnt close. Hughes doesnt have the stuff Burnett has, but if he can ever gain the same command he has with his fastball as he does with his curve, he will have a great career.
AJ Burnett. Though I hope Hughes will surpass his skill in the future. Or at least develop his curve so it's plus.
Who did you vote for?
Did you vote for Hughes?
It doesn't matter, does it? I don't get why I'm being picked on for no reason, but if it makes you feel better, then go ahead.
Hughes Rules: Pleading the Fifth
All I did was ask a question. Sorry. i was just curious who the 7 were that voted for him
You asked a question after you laughed at JVIS' insulting post that I must have voted for Phil. You assumed I voted (if I did vote) for Phil based on the fact that he is one of my favorite players and didn't give me any credit for having a brain. So, since you assume I voted for Phil, there's no point in my responding. I'm sorry if this comes off as angry, but I don't like being accused (even implicitly) of bias. Of course JVIS is well-known for his objectivity.
If you really are interested, I posted a response in this thread.
Hughes Rules: Pleading the Fifth
Well it was JVIS who said it so it should most likely be ignored. I cant think of a single good idea he's ever had since he's been posting. Actually all of his idea's would lead us to become the Mets.
Hughes' curve had more break in the past. It had so much break hitters picked it up before it got to the plate and squared up.
So he was taught to pitch more of a power curve that breaks a bit less but later.
AJ's curve has enough velocity and break that hitters can't square up even when they see it coming.
They really aren't even in the same class.
As I've written several times I don't see the games other than the national broadcasts. Your point is exactly what I last noticed about Phil's CB. It's now a late breaker as opposed to a looper.
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