2003 Rumored steroid list (not confirmed)

[JOBA RULES]

Per Rotoinfo.com

Seems like half the Sox roster is on there...

Rumored steroid list (UNCONFIRMED)

1.Nomar Garciaparra
2.Manny Ramirez
3.Johnny Damon
4.Trot Nixon
5.David Ortiz
6.Shea Hillenbrand
7.Derek Lowe
8.Pedro Martinez
9.Brian Roberts
10.Jay Gibbons
11.Melvin Mora
12.Jerry Hairston
13.Jason Giambi
14.Alfonso Soriano
15.Raul Mondesi
16. Aaron Boone
17.Andy Pettitte
18.Jose Contreras
19.Roger Clemens
20.Carlos Delgado
21.Vernon Wells
22.Frank Catalanotto
23.Kenny Rogers
24.Magglio Ordonez
25.Sandy Alomar
26.Bartolo Colon
27.Brent Abernathy
28.Jose Lima
29.Milton Bradley
30.Casey Blake
31.Danys Baez
32.Craig Monroe
33.Dmitri Young
34.Alex Sanchez
35.Eric Chavez
36.Miguel Tejada
37.Eric Byrnes
38.Jose Guillen
39.Keith Foulke
40.Ricardo Rincon
41.Bret Boone
42.Mike Cameron
43.Randy Winn
44.Ryan Franklin
45.Freddy Garcia
46.Rafael Soriano
47.Scott Spiezio
48.Troy Glaus
49.Francisco Rodriguez
50.Ben Weber
51.Alex Rodriguez
52.Juan Gonzalez
53.Rafael Palmeiro
54.Carl Everett
55.Javy Lopez
56.Gary Sheffield
57.Mike Hampton
58.Ivan Rodriguez
59.Derrek Lee
60.Bobby Abreu
61.Terry Adams
62.Fernando Tatis
63.Livan Hernandez
64.Hector Almonte
65.Tony Armas
66.Dan Smith
67.Roberto Alomar
68.Cliff Floyd
69.Roger Cedeno
70.Jeromy Burnitz
71.Moises Alou
72.Sammy Sosa
73.Corey Patterson
74.Carlos Zambrano
75.Mark Prior
76.Kerry Wood
77.Matt Clement
78.Antonio Alfonseca
79.Juan Cruz
80.Aramis Ramirez
81.Craig Wilson
82.Kris Benson
83.Richie Sexson
84.Geoff Jenkins
85.Valerio de los Santos
86.Benito Santiago
87.Rich Aurilia
88.Barry Bonds
89.Andres Galarraga
90.Jason Schmidt
91.Felix Rodriguez
92.Jason Christiansen
93.Matt Herges
94.Paul Lo Duca
95.Shawn Green
96.Oliver Perez
97.Adrian Beltre
98.Eric Gagne
99.Guillermo Mota
100.Luis Gonzalez
101.Todd Helton
102.Ryan Klesko
103.Gary Matthews


http://rotoinfo.com/read_article.php?articleId=318

[JOBA RULES]

this list is also making its way to other internet outlets. I wonder how these names came out?

[DiMaggio5CF]

Already a thread on this in Around the Majors.

http://forums.nyyfans.com/showthread.php?t=118727

[JOBA RULES]

Already a thread on this in Around the Majors.

http://forums.nyyfans.com/showthread.php?t=118727

oops sorry bro

[Mantle'sMutt]

If this is the real list, I am not at all surprised at any of the names. None.

[Dirty Coke]

Fake.

[bigjf]

Fake.

I don't know about that. It looks pretty legit to me.

[dadrumma]

If this is the real list, I am not at all surprised at any of the names. None.

if its true, im kinda surprised at damon. but i love the fact that pedro and ortiz could be on the list.

[Mantle'sMutt]

if its true, im kinda surprised at damon. but i love the fact that pedro and ortiz could be on the list.

On review, Helton surprises me, too. But just a little. (and assuming that this even resembles the real list)

[Dirty Coke]

I don't know about that. It looks pretty legit to me.

Too many big names, not enough nobodies and journeymen. Plus, from my understanding, there were 104 positive tests which does not necessarily mean 104 players tested positive.

[Mantle'sMutt]

Too many big names, not enough nobodies and journeymen. Plus, from my understanding, there were 104 positive tests which does not necessarily mean 104 players tested positive.

Not enough nobodies?

4.Trot Nixon
6.Shea Hillenbrand
10.Jay Gibbons
11.Melvin Mora
12.Jerry Hairston
16. Aaron Boone
18.Jose Contreras
22.Frank Catalanotto
25.Sandy Alomar
27.Brent Abernathy
28.Jose Lima
29.Milton Bradley
30.Casey Blake
31.Danys Baez
32.Craig Monroe
33.Dmitri Young
34.Alex Sanchez
37.Eric Byrnes
38.Jose Guillen
39.Keith Foulke
40.Ricardo Rincon
41.Bret Boone
43.Randy Winn
44.Ryan Franklin
45.Freddy Garcia
46.Rafael Soriano
47.Scott Spiezio
50.Ben Weber
54.Carl Everett
55.Javy Lopez
61.Terry Adams
62.Fernando Tatis
64.Hector Almonte
65.Tony Armas
66.Dan Smith
69.Roger Cedeno
70.Jeromy Burnitz
73.Corey Patterson
77.Matt Clement
78.Antonio Alfonseca
79.Juan Cruz
81.Craig Wilson
82.Kris Benson
83.Richie Sexson
84.Geoff Jenkins
85.Valerio de los Santos
87.Rich Aurilia
91.Felix Rodriguez
92.Jason Christiansen
93.Matt Herges
94.Paul Lo Duca
95.Shawn Green
96.Oliver Perez
99.Guillermo Mota
102.Ryan Klesko
103.Gary Matthews

[Dirty Coke]

Not enough nobodies?

4.Trot Nixon
6.Shea Hillenbrand
10.Jay Gibbons
11.Melvin Mora
12.Jerry Hairston
16. Aaron Boone
18.Jose Contreras
22.Frank Catalanotto
25.Sandy Alomar
27.Brent Abernathy
28.Jose Lima
29.Milton Bradley
30.Casey Blake
31.Danys Baez
32.Craig Monroe
33.Dmitri Young
34.Alex Sanchez
37.Eric Byrnes
38.Jose Guillen
39.Keith Foulke
40.Ricardo Rincon
41.Bret Boone
43.Randy Winn
44.Ryan Franklin
45.Freddy Garcia
46.Rafael Soriano
47.Scott Spiezio
50.Ben Weber
54.Carl Everett
55.Javy Lopez
61.Terry Adams
62.Fernando Tatis
64.Hector Almonte
65.Tony Armas
66.Dan Smith
69.Roger Cedeno
70.Jeromy Burnitz
73.Corey Patterson
77.Matt Clement
78.Antonio Alfonseca
79.Juan Cruz
81.Craig Wilson
82.Kris Benson
83.Richie Sexson
84.Geoff Jenkins
85.Valerio de los Santos
87.Rich Aurilia
91.Felix Rodriguez
92.Jason Christiansen
93.Matt Herges
94.Paul Lo Duca
95.Shawn Green
96.Oliver Perez
99.Guillermo Mota
102.Ryan Klesko
103.Gary Matthews

Uhh, anyone who has followed baseball closely for the last 10 years should recognize at least 85% of those names. Also, rotoworld didn't even name a source.

[DEADSOX]

The list posted in the link on rotoinfo is different than it was a few days ago, there's only 103 names now (I think they listed Burnitz only once this time) and Oliver Perez's name is spelt right.

[Mantle'sMutt]

Uhh, anyone who has followed baseball closely for the last 10 years should recognize at least 85% of those names. Also, rotoworld didn't even name a source.

Uhh. Uhh?

RECOGNIZING the names doesn't mean that most on the list aren't anything but marginal players or just a bit better than servicable players (with some at least decent) whether you've been watching MLB for one year, ten years, or fifty years. It's not like the whole list is A-Rod and Papi types. Because it was a sample of then current MLB players, it looks like they had gotten a fairly representative cross-section, in terms of talent, and it provides no real reason to reject the probability that those names constitute the correct list. All I'm saying (and I said twice that it was all was under the assumption the list was even real).

[Dirty Coke]

Uhh. Uhh?

RECOGNIZING the names doesn't mean that most on the list aren't anything but marginal players or just a bit better than servicable players (with some at least decent) whether you've been watching MLB for one year, ten years, or fifty years. It's not like the whole list is A-Rod and Papi types. Because it was a sample of then current MLB players, it looks like they had gotten a fairly representative cross-section, in terms of talent, and it provides no real reason to reject the probability that those names constitute the correct list. All I'm saying (and I said twice that it was all was under the assumption the list was even real).

Your argument is ridiculous just because you're defending something that pretty much everyone has said is fake.

[Dirty Coke]

Also:

http://deadspin.com/5304675/why-the-...ist-is-a-crock

[Mantle'sMutt]

Your argument is ridiculous just because you're defending something that pretty much everyone has said is fake.

I said multiple times that the list may or may not be real, if you bothered to note. What actually WAS ridiculous was your claim that the list likely was not real because it contained too many big names and not enough "no-names", and you were wrong. I was defending nothing, you were. Live with it.

[Dirty Coke]

I said multiple times that the list may or may not be real, if you bothered to note. What actually WAS ridiculous was your claim that the list likely was not real because it contained too many big names and not enough "no-names", and you were wrong. I was defending nothing, you were. Live with it.

Whatever you have to tell yourself to feel better.

[bigjf]

Catfight!!! Catfight!!!

[Mantle'sMutt]

Catfight!!! Catfight!!!

Slow newsday?

[yankeefan122]

Uhh. Uhh?

RECOGNIZING the names doesn't mean that most on the list aren't anything but marginal players or just a bit better than servicable players (with some at least decent) whether you've been watching MLB for one year, ten years, or fifty years. It's not like the whole list is A-Rod and Papi types. Because it was a sample of then current MLB players, it looks like they had gotten a fairly representative cross-section, in terms of talent, and it provides no real reason to reject the probability that those names constitute the correct list. All I'm saying (and I said twice that it was all was under the assumption the list was even real).

I don't believe the list is real, but I agree with you with the recognizing names. I mean with fantasy baseball and stuff, people know the names to almost everyone on each team.

[JDPNYY]

So... This is the fake Thread for the fake List?

[JeterRodriguezSheff]

Uhh, anyone who has followed baseball closely for the last 10 years should recognize at least 85% of those names. Also, rotoworld didn't even name a source.

Yea but back in 03 did you recognize those names?

[Nome]

I understand that not all players were tested. With 30 teams in the majors and a roster of 25 players, that means 759 players were on big learue rosters at the time. I fully believe reports that over 50 % of ML players use PFD, so I believe that a great many of those of the list were users

Andy

[YankeePride1967]

No Devil Rays.

[AnAbombfromA-rod13]

Soriano ? Really? Hes a twig. And Brent Abernathy better have gotten his money back because his failed.